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Suppose the thinking is along the lines we are going to shoot them anyway - so may as well allow a few folk to make a quid out of it (wink, wink, nudge, nudge....say no more !)
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

There are proven, non-lethal methods for managing wild horse populations. These include trapping and rehoming, fertility control, and creating sanctuaries. These options are far more humane and sustainable than the current, barbaric cull.

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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Suppose the thinking is along the lines we are going to shoot them anyway - so may as well allow a few folk to make a quid out of it (wink, wink, nudge, nudge....say no more !)

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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I'm hearing illegal knackery (primarily greyhound meat ) under guise of a rehoming centre. Primarily Brumby's. 

RSPCA informed end last year. Visit in Jan this year by RSPCA with coppers. Still no action as of today

Suggestion some dodgy backhanders going on re supply of horses
Becoming a common theme for RSPCA., think they have previous form
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Minister Penny Sharpe in the firing line


Thats wonderful news indeed.  Weak sheila wont even let her emails accept photos of gut shot brumbiess.  Has told so many blatant lies.  Still Minns defends her.
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Originally posted by mc41 mc41 wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I'm hearing illegal knackery (primarily greyhound meat ) under guise of a rehoming centre. Primarily Brumby's. 

RSPCA informed end last year. Visit in Jan this year by RSPCA with coppers. Still no action as of today

Suggestion some dodgy backhanders going on re supply of horses
Becoming a common theme for RSPCA., think they have previous form


Yes they do !  FORM is so right.  They hold millions of $  which is supposed to be to help prevent animal abuse and treat and look after the needy . They do nothing until someone goes to the press with proof of there non actions.
No puting on the ground staff here.  The organisation is rotten at the top and just dont donate to them. Plenty of genuine up front help the animal charities out there who will put the money to the use you mean it for.
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True, the RSPCA is now simply a huge money making corporation, run by astute business people with little gumption,  or passion to fight for animals welfare. We have a classic example in our home town. Severe horse neglect for many years and she runs rings around them. They are as useless as tits on a bull. 
Surely it’s better to donate to rescue groups who can be seen to be actively working to enhance animals lives and rehome neglected pets? 
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Wild Horse welfare expert and veterinarian, Dr. Andrea Harvey, reports, “The Royal Society For Prevention Of Cruelty To Animals (RSPCA) definition of a humane death is when an animal is either killed instantly or rendered insensible until death ensues, without pain, suffering or distress."

Dr Harvey further stated: "Aerial shooting achieves none of these aims. Aerial shooting involves pursuing horses with a helicopter, which, even if for one to two minutes, can cause varying degrees of breathlessness, muscle fatigue, exhaustion and heat stress, particularly if they are galloping at maximal speeds through fear from pursuing helicopter. Following the chase, horses are shot with bullets aimed at the chest. With a chest shot, animals die as a result of haemorrhage. The time to death is variable depending on the precise location of the shot within the chest. It is possible to be a rapid death if the shot is directly into the heart, a level of precision that would be very challenging from the air, but death is never instant as is required to state that its a ‘humane death’. Horses will inevitably suffer pain and distress, severe in intensity, prior to insensibility and death.”
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Michelle and Ian Brown are the proprietors Snowy Brumby Photography Adventures and spend a great deal of time studying and photographing the Brumbies. Michelle stated, “We have been documenting our Snowy Mountain Brumbies (SMB) for over 10 years. The information being given to the public by anti-Brumby groups has never been as negative and misleading as it seems now. Despite the many efforts of pro-brumby advocates, like Ian and myself, with years of first hand knowledge, reporting to get those in power to hear truths about Brumby population and their thriving environment, we are continually ignored. There are now less than 3000 SMB left up in KNP. That’s a fact. In my view, our government wants Brumbies eradicated based on gaslighting misinformation.”
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Representing Wild Horses Of Alberta Society, Ann Van Avermaet commented, "If countries want to be seen as a civilized society, they have a duty to act with care towards sentient beings who have proven they can thrive for decades without human interference. A government cannot order eradication indiscriminately and in the cruelest way possible. Government’s duty is to make decisions based on impartial research. It is beyond comprehension that Australia claims there is no room for these magnificent animals. It is short sighted and barbaric."
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Marsland defines the problem, stating “There are better ways to manage wild horses than killing them. Locals managed Brumbies successfully until the Parks Service took over with no background, knowledge or experience. Never utilizing local people who cared for the horses for decades. They simply shut the gate, took over managing a species of which they had no knowledge whatsoever. They got it wrong from day one, they have got it wrong now. Brumbies may need management, they just don’t need to be shot.”
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Making a big song and dance about the Horse carcases @ wagga, aren't they?? i bet the limp wristed rspca has something to say,  all whilst they are complicit with the slaughter in the high country, i say complicit because even the mottoo of their existance "PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS" SAYS WHAT THEY ARE THERE FOR, DEPENDING WHICH WAY THE BLIND BLOWS OF COURSE, so its NOT OK to whip a horse in a race, its quite ok to shoot mare and foals without killing, anD leave them to die and bleeding out and having crown eagles foxes cats wild dogs pigs and dingoes feasting whilst still alive is a sick joke a national disgrace and a way out for others with smart lawyers, the npa npws and their cohort should named and shamed
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Well well, just listen to this! Di Hardley, prominent brumby advocate
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This from Emma Hurst.

Hundreds of horses illegally butchered - some apparently brumbies 'rehomed', the others, no one knows. I'm calling for the Upper House to investigate through my committee.
These are some of the allegations so far:
- Hundreds of the horses killed were brumbies 'rehomed' to one individual
- The individual accused had already been identified as a person of concern in regards to animal welfare
- Dead horses were potentially being used as food within the greyhound racing industry
There are serious questions about the involvement of the NSW Parks and Wildlife Service, and other Government agencies, in this matter – including what their employees knew, and when, and how this was allowed to happen.
I expect more will come to light in the coming days. We will update you if we can get the numbers for the Upper House investigation. In the meantime, the Government must issue a moratorium on any further killing or removals.
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As whispers of discontent spread like wildfire, questions arise: Has the Brumby issue erupted into a tempest of revelation, potentially exposing the depths of corruption and deceit?
As if by divine intervention, the sword of truth has found its mark, illuminating a situation akin to answered prayers.
The recent bombshell, unveiled on 2GB radio by Ray Hadley and Wes Fang, this morning. Reports suggest that up to 500 horses, including Brumbies, met a tragic fate at an illegal slaughter facility in Wagga.
Shockingly, it appears that a significant portion of these majestic horses were re-homed, only to meet their demise in the most abhorrent manner.
During the December Brumby Parliamentary Inquiry, Mr. Atticus Flemming painted a rosier picture, citing the re-homing of 793 Brumbies up until September, with additional numbers trickling in thereafter.
However, the truth, now unearthed, reveals a sinister reality. Ms. Penny Sharpe's acknowledgement of the relocation of 260, possibly 300, Brumbies to the illicit Wagga facility sends shockwaves through the community.
The NPWS's awareness of this grim reality, coupled with the RSPCA's tepid response following their visit in January 2024 to the Wagga facility, raises serious doubts about the integrity of those entrusted with the welfare of these iconic horses.
Questions abound, shrouding the entire affair in a cloak of suspicion.
How long has this clandestine operation persisted?
Who are the puppet masters pulling the strings behind the scenes?
Have the atrocities committed against these innocent horses been meticulously documented, or do they remain hidden in the shadows, shielded from scrutiny?
The facade of the re-homing process crumbles under the weight of truth, beckoning forth a call for justice that reverberates through the hearts of Brumby advocates who have tirelessly championed their cause for over a decade.
The credibility of the NPWS, RSPCA, and individuals like Penny Sharpe hangs precariously in the balance, their actions betraying a blatant disregard for the sanctity of life.
Today, we stand united in condemnation, demanding an IMMEDIATE CESSATION to the slaughter and a thorough investigation that delves deep into the murky waters of what is potential corruption.
The evidence, undoubtedly damning, will serve as a beacon of hope for those who seek to protect our beloved Brumbies, for it is through our collective efforts that we shall ensure their legacy endures.
"Helping Our Old Friends Survive" (HOOFS2010 acronym) is not just a motto; it's a call to arms, a reminder of our duty to safeguard and be a voice for our Heritage Brumbies.

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Moran & Talbot your goose is cooked!
Penny Sharpe has ordered an urgent review of the NPWS rehoming program!
Ray Hadley & Wes Fang have discussed the 'cooking of the books' by a NPWS ranger over the brumby rehoming program. Ray & Wes have strongly suggested an ICAC investigation.
Ie. for every 4 brumbies trapped, only 1 was offered for genuine rehoming with the other 3 horses 'sold' by a NPWS staff member to the illegal knackery!
BRUMBIES ON THE BLACKMARKET!!!
This clearly explains why the trapping was ramped up & why genuine rehomers were being told that brumbies were not available over the last few years 🤔
The long list of corruption in the NPWS is finally getting exposed...
Thankyou again Ray Hadley 👍
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What u**er bast@@ds, hope they lose their jobs and are all named and shamed. So many of us mused over and over about what was behind the relentless persecution of the horses. Numbers not adding up, experienced KNP mountain people ignored, much more invasive species that did untold damage, and weren't national icons, ignored. What an absolute travesty, all the poor brumbies ending up taken from their beautiful home to end up in what was no doubt a real hell hole. God people suck, it’s scary that there are people capable of that on such a huge scale in our communities, never mind in positions of power. Just plain evil. 
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Lots becoming clearer now.  Cant shush it under the carpet either.  Bit of luck the wheel of fortune is turning and karma will arrive.
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