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BUT Street Cry never looked like dirt horse
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Djebel, thanks for the news re Atlantic Jewel and Justify.

At the risk of appearing negative, what worries me a trifle about the mating is that:

The match appears underwhelming from a pedigree match perspective;
Soundness might present a problem given both Justify and his old man Scat Daddy retired through injury before their 4yo year; and
Justify, having being trained by Bob Baffert, may have received considerable "assistance" during his brief racing career.

Over to others.





Find myself in agreement with SC on this.  I believe the legs go back thru 3 or more generations , so for me thats a worry.
And again, who knows what BB may have topped him up withWink Jet fuel maybe .
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Regarding Scat Daddy and soundness or lack thereof, being owned by Coolmore and having most of his best sons owned by Coolmore makes then look less durable than they otherwise might.

A very quick look at Scat Daddy's highest class fillies tells a different story than looking at the highest class colts.  

Celestine -- Gr 2 winner at 5
Con te Partiro -- Gr-1 winner at 6, stakes winner every year from 3-6
Dacita -- Gr 1 winner at 6, stakes winner every year from 2-6
Daddy's Lil Darlin -- Gr 2 winner at 4, 20 starts in 3 years of racing
Harmonize -- Gr 3 winner at 4
Lady Aurelia -- Stakes winner at 2, 3, and 4
Lady of Shamrock -- Gr stakes winner at 2, 3, and 4
Paquita Coqueta -- Gr winner in Chile at 3 and in USA at 5, total of 34 starts
Pretty n Cool -- Gr 3 winner at 4, stakes winner every year from 2-4
So Perfect -- Gr 3 winner at 2 and 3, still in training
Toinette -- Gr winner at 3 and 4, still in training

The high-class racefillies owned by Coolmore, such as champion Skitter Scatter and Balanchine Stakes winner So Perfect, tend to also retire at 3.  Conversely, there are plenty of Scat Daddy geldings with 35-start careers, meaning they're sound enough AND fast enough to be worth keeping in training.

Justify probably could have trained on as an older horse, except for the fact that Coolmore probably paid the GDP of a small island nation to buy him and they want to make their money back immediately.  

All that said, I agree with SC that from a pedigree perspective it's lukewarm at best.  Especially because if Coolmore want to breed her to a triple crown winner, they have another triple crown winner on their roster who has sired a very high-class racehorse out of a mare whose sire was a son of Danehill and whose dam was by Zabeel.



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Coolmore Australia will award a brand new Ferrari to the owner of the first Justify foal to win a selected 2- or 3-year-old feature race.

The first opportunity for owners of Justify foals to win the Ferrari bonus will be the Magic Millions 2YO Classic in January 2023, while other eligible 2-year-old races include the five Australian group 1 features for juveniles, namely the Golden Slipper (G1), Blue Diamond Stakes (G1), Sires' Produce Stakes (G1), Champagne Stakes (G1), and J. J. Atkins Stakes (G1), as well as lucrative auction house races, the Inglis Millennium and Karaka Million, in addition to Magic Millions' $2 million feature race. 

Qualifying 3-year-old races include age-restricted spring group 1s the Golden Rose (G1), Coolmore Stud Stakes (G1), and Caulfield Guineas (G1), while in Sydney's autumn the Rosehill Guineas (G1) and Randwick Guineas (G1) are eligible races. Weight-for-age races include The Everest, Cox Plate (G1), and Queen Elizabeth Stakes (G1).

Justify, who has 96 live foals from his first Southern Hemisphere crop and 86 in his second, has 26 yearlings consigned for January's Magic Millions sale, while the Inglis Classic Yearling Sale in February has six youngsters cataloged.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/255517/ferrari-bonus-from-coolmore-australia-for-justify-foals


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First G1 Winner in the US
Arabian Lion (Justify  - Unbound by Distorted Humor)

Wins G1 Woody Stephens Stakes over 7 furlongs at Belmont Park, NY
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Ramatuelle (2f Justify x Raven's Lady, by Raven's Pass) just raced away with the Gp3 Prix du Bois at Chantilly. Looks to have a bright future!

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Justify's second Grade 1 progeny in the US overnight.

Aspen Grove (IRE)    (Justify — Data Dependent, by More Than Ready)  wins  G1 Belmont Oaks Invitational

Surprisingly started at 15/1 shipping from Ireland after a poor 10th in the G1 Irish 1000 Guineas.
Amazing how they grow a leg when they come to the US.
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All the ingredients are in Australia. Will Justify be getting highgrade middle distance horses in Australia ?

  ASPEN GROVE (IRE) Bay filly 2020  
Justify
Chestnut 2015
Scat Daddy
Bay or brown 2004
Johannesburg
Bay 1999
Hennessy
Chestnut 1993
Storm Cat
Island Kitty
1983
1976
8-c
8-c
Myth
Bay 1993
Ogygian
Yarn
1983
1987
16-a
2-f
Love Style
Chestnut 1999
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Likeable Style
Bay 1990
Nijinsky
Personable Lady
1967
1981
8-f
1-w
Stage Magic
Chestnut 2007
Ghostzapper
Bay 2000
Awesome Again
Bay 1994
Deputy Minister
Primal Force
1979
1987
10-a
1-c
Baby Zip
Bay 1991
Relaunch
Thirty Zip
1976
1983
3-o
23-b
Magical Illusion
Chestnut 2001
Pulpit
Bay 1994
A P Indy
Preach
1989
1989
3-l
2-f
Voodoo Lily
Bay 1987
Baldski
Cap the Moment
1974
1980
21-a
1-h
Data Dependent
Bay 2015
More Than Ready
Bay or brown 1997
Southern Halo
Bay 1983
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Cosmah
1958
1953
4-n
2-d
Northern Sea
Bay 1974
Northern Dancer
Sea Saga
1961
1968
2-d
16-g
Woodman's Girl
Bay 1990
Woodman
Chestnut 1983
Mr Prospector
Playmate
1970
1975
13-c
1-s
Becky Be Good
Bay 1981
Naskra
Good Landing
1967
1965
3-e
1-s
Dane Street
Bay or brown 2009
Street Cry
Bay or brown 1998
Machiavellian
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Coup de Folie
1970
1982
13-c
2-d
Helen Street
Bay 1982
Troy
Waterway
1976
1976
1-b
1-l
Daneleta
Bay or brown 1999
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Zavaleta
Bay 1991
Kahyasi
La Meilleure
1985
1985
5-e
14-c
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Legacies already looks an Oaks type.
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  LEGACIES (AUS) Chestnut filly 2020  
Justify
Chestnut 2015
Scat Daddy
Bay or brown 2004
Johannesburg
Bay 1999
Hennessy
Chestnut 1993
Storm Cat
Island Kitty
1983
1976
8-c
8-c
Myth
Bay 1993
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Yarn
1983
1987
16-a
2-f
Love Style
Chestnut 1999
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Likeable Style
Bay 1990
Nijinsky
Personable Lady
1967
1981
8-f
1-w
Stage Magic
Chestnut 2007
Ghostzapper
Bay 2000
Awesome Again
Bay 1994
Deputy Minister
Primal Force
1979
1987
10-a
1-c
Baby Zip
Bay 1991
Relaunch
Thirty Zip
1976
1983
3-o
23-b
Magical Illusion
Chestnut 2001
Pulpit
Bay 1994
A P Indy
Preach
1989
1989
3-l
2-f
Voodoo Lily
Bay 1987
Baldski
Cap the Moment
1974
1980
21-a
1-h
Abyssinie
Chestnut 2009
Danehill Dancer
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Mira Adonde
Bay or brown 1986
Sharpen Up
Chestnut 1969
Atan
Rocchetta
1961
1961
2-f
5-i
Lettre d'Amour
Grey 1979
Caro
Lianga
1967
1971
3-o
22-b
Agathe
Chestnut 1991
Manila
Bay 1983
Lyphard
Bay 1969
Northern Dancer
Goofed
1961
1960
2-d
17-b
Dona Ysidra
Bay 1975
Le Fabuleux
Matriarch
1961
1964
13-c
16-g
Albertine
Bay 1981
Irish River
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Irish Star
1969
1960
10-a
1-w
Almyre
Bay 1964
Wild Risk
Ad Gloriam
1940
1958
3-f
8-f
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Originally posted by Grey Affair Grey Affair wrote:

Ramatuelle (2f Justify x Raven's Lady, by Raven's Pass) just raced away with the Gp3 Prix du Bois at Chantilly. Looks to have a bright future!



Just bolted in with the Gp2 Prix Robert Papin.

Great weekend for Justify.


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Originally posted by Grey Affair Grey Affair wrote:

Great weekend for Justify.




Also a Listed winner My Dear Stakes (5 1/2 f) on the All-weather surface at Woodbine in Canada.

Living Magic  2YOF (Justify  – Living The Life (IRE) by Footstepsinthesand (GB) )


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For the 2022-23 Season

The coveted first season sires title by earnings goes to Coolmore shuttler Justify, the United States Triple Crown champion in 2018.

No stallion has ever been supported or marketed to the degree Justify was when he shuttled to Australia for the first time a year after his blistering racetrack career in America, and the early signs from his first Southern Hemisphere-bred crop have been more than encouraging.

The sire of eight individual first crop winners from 21 runners, Justify's first crop progeny is headed by Reisling Stakes (G2) winner Learning To Fly, SAJC Sires' Produce Stakes (G3) winner Air Assault, and Anzac Day Stakes scorer Legacies.

He was spared a season Down Under in 2022, but Coolmore has been steeled by his Australian success, to go with his 12 stakes winners in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Magnier family and company have vowed to back Justify to the hilt again in 2023 and beyond.

"It's well-documented that Coolmore supported Justify with the very best of mares in his first season and that's resulted in him becoming champion first season sire by a clear margin," Coolmore Australia's Tom Moore told ANZ Bloodstock News.

"What we've seen of Justify, not only in Australia but also in the Northern Hemisphere, has indicated that he is an extremely versatile and high-class stallion.

"He has produced group winners at a range of distances and he has the highest-rated 2-year-old in Europe at the moment in City of Troy who looks like being one out of the box.

"From our perspective he's an extremely important stallion of the future, not only in Australia but globally."

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Hello, Justify has a 3 year old winner in Germany.

His name is Lucanas (Justify - La Saldana by fastnet Rock) won Handicap Class D at Cologne.

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The Gp1 Prix Marcel Boussac has been won by Opera Singer (2f Justify x Liscanna, by Sadler's Wells) easily defeating Rose Bloom & Les Pavots.

At her previous start, Opera Singer won the Gp3 Irish EBF stakes. She is a half sister to G1 winners Brave Anna & Hit It A Bomb. These are her damline details:-

She looks to be very smart. 

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Ashford Stud's 2018 Triple Crown winner and Horse of the Year Justify leads the charge for Coolmore, standing for US$200,000 in 2024, double what he stood for this year.

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Justify is undefeated no more....

A judge in LA has ruled the potential disqualification of Justify, after winning the G1 Santa Anita Derby in 2018, be sent back to the Board of Stewards to rule that the horse had an illegal medication in his system when he ran the race. Bolt D'Oro finished 3 lengths behind.

Justify would go on to sweep the Triple Crown races that season before being retired to stud. Justify did not have any qualifying points toward a start in the Kentucky Derby (G1) before his Santa Anita Derby win.

According to the BloodHorse 2023 leading sires list, as of Dec. 1 Justify ranked 19th in North America with $9,118,377 in progeny earnings, and Bolt d'Oro was 42nd with $6,812,894. Justify leads all second-crop sires in progeny earnings this year.

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Best group of mares?  Has Coolmore forgotten the group of mares which went to Fusaichi Pegasus in his first season at stud in Australia.

Justify had good mares yes but an awful lot of the better mares missed or had dead foals which was bad luck all around as he appears to be a lot better than Fusaichi Pegasus was.
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Getting top class 2yos all over the world but was the first Kentucky Derby winner since 1882 who didn't race at 2.
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His first US book of foals have just turned 4.  So he's been represented by just two crops in the NH.  Was Leading 2nd season sire in the USA.  Despite few starters has the huge AEI in Europe.

His oldest SH foals are just 3 1/2 years old and has already produce five stake-winners down-under.

Stakes winners in the USA, France, New Zealand and Australia.

If Storm Boy can win a Slipper suspect he'll stand for at least $165k in 2024.
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He is doing an amazing job all over the world.  Its great to see that.
As most know , Big smile  I have never been a big fan of US dirt horses Cry but by gee this bloke has broke the mold. Clap
Storm Boy, what a looker and he appeared to do that win quite easy.

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Is this the race where Coolmore give the winners  a car ??   How do they decide who gets it ?Confused  Hell of a lot of 'em.
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Originally posted by Brudder_A Brudder_A wrote:

Coolmore Australia will award a brand new Ferrari to the owner of the first Justify foal to win a selected 2- or 3-year-old feature race.

The first opportunity for owners of Justify foals to win the Ferrari bonus will be the Magic Millions 2YO Classic in January 2023, while other eligible 2-year-old races include the five Australian group 1 features for juveniles, namely the Golden Slipper (G1), Blue Diamond Stakes (G1), Sires' Produce Stakes (G1), Champagne Stakes (G1), and J. J. Atkins Stakes (G1), as well as lucrative auction house races, the Inglis Millennium and Karaka Million, in addition to Magic Millions' $2 million feature race. 

Qualifying 3-year-old races include age-restricted spring group 1s the Golden Rose (G1), Coolmore Stud Stakes (G1), and Caulfield Guineas (G1), while in Sydney's autumn the Rosehill Guineas (G1) and Randwick Guineas (G1) are eligible races. Weight-for-age races include The Everest, Cox Plate (G1), and Queen Elizabeth Stakes (G1).

Justify, who has 96 live foals from his first Southern Hemisphere crop and 86 in his second, has 26 yearlings consigned for January's Magic Millions sale, while the Inglis Classic Yearling Sale in February has six youngsters cataloged.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/255517/ferrari-bonus-from-coolmore-australia-for-justify-foals

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Justify is one of a few Sires to come from the US carrying Seattle Slew to show so much promise, and give an indication that he may live up to it, time will tell
In Fact John Sparkman , one time editor or the thoroughbred times or like, said" Seattle Slew is a relative NON apperance in pedigrees of stakeswinners down under"
perhaps Justify can redeem some of SS's glory down here
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

  He is doing an amazing job all over the world.  Its great to see that.
As most know , Big smile  I have never been a big fan of US dirt horses but by gee this bloke has broke the mold. Clap 

Whereas Group 1 winner No Nay Never (by Scat Daddy like Justify) has been successful in the UK (AEI of 1.7) but came down here and was both sub-fertile and less than successful.
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