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    Posted: 05 Jun 2012 at 2:25pm
Good to see David Gallop resign as NRL boss
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David Gallop: News Ltd's Pet Chief Executive

Published on 13-09-11 07:05 PM
 
News Limited has made it a condition that before it withdraws from rugby league, allowing an Independent Commission to take control, all other powerbrokers in the game must agree to David Gallop continuing for another five years as the NRL's chief executive.

Why?

What does it matter to Rupert Murdoch and his cronies whether Gallop is running rugby league or not? If Murdoch believes that Gallop is best suited for the position, then why not throw the job open and call for nominations? Should Gallop be the most suitable nominee, he'd romp it in on his merits without having to rely on standover tactics from News Limited to keep his job.

If you were David Gallop, wouldn't you be embarrassed? Shamed that you've kept your job only through bullying and threats.

Of course, those with memories recall that Gallop was a News Limited in-house lawyer when Super League erupted. It was Gallop who acted as Super League's lawyer, observing tactics that a judge was later to condemn as "corrupt" and "duplicitous". One of Gallop's primary goals was to kill Souths. His close comrades through the war were John Ribot de Bresac and Rebecca Wilson - the serial drink-driving wife of local News Limited boss John Hartigan.

Perceptions are everything. It can't be denied that there is a perception that News Limited want Gallop because he's partial to all things that Rupert Murdoch represents and wants.

David Gallop ought demonstrate that he is principled by resigning from his position before re-applying against other nominees. If he is the best credentialled, he'll get the job.

But to stay in the position because News Limited demands it will only fuel perceptions that Gallop is anything but independent. We all know that Gallop has a glass jaw. Any criticism sends him off. Resign David. Declare your job vacant and call for nominations. Having the right person in the job for rugby league is what matters.

 
 
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How much does he get paid out? Heard on SEN that he was 4 months in to a 4 year contract? LOL
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Todd Greenburg should do the job,does a great job at the Dogs.
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Originally posted by Jolls Jolls wrote:

How much does he get paid out? Heard on SEN that he was 4 months in to a 4 year contract? LOL


Had a 12 month only termination payment $700k jumps in tho
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it is a strange one the way in which it has been handled.

he never earnt that much. something like 300-500,000 to run a competition that required so much work.

i do not understand this thought process that he was bad for the game, or a super league lap dog. he did a job at a difficult time in the history of the game and has handled so many crisis and handled them all perfectly.

he has taken a comp that had been struggling to build a successful business model for the entirety of its existence and now has 16 clubs with a setup in place to develop the game and that are solid.

he has been there as crowds, ratings and sponsorship has grown consistently over the past 10 years. he has overseen the great introductions of monday night football, dual friday night games, golden point, toyota cup, scrapping of reserve grade, dual ref's, intelligent and not wasted expansion and many other achievements.

he has been a steadied person in a time when the sport had 50% wanting to go one way and 50% wanting to go the other. league is a game that often has 5 different groups having their own opinion and he has managed those situations.

he has help clean up the sport and their were casualties along the way. that will happen and in the general to have his job with the number of late night phone calls for problems you earn that money.

it seems the new commission wanted a different direction and maybe that will provide a new vision. gallop is a massive reason why the game is strong today and looking to grow in the future.

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Hey Q, let me know if I can borrow your rose coloured glasses if the need arises.  Wink
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Originally posted by Run For Fun Run For Fun wrote:

Hey Q, let me know if I can borrow your rose coloured glasses if the need arises.  Wink

i will. i feel that i have learnt a lot about running a company by watching gallop perform over the last 10 years.

i have no doubt that this is really about having a group of 8 commissioners that all want to change things and in administration you need to manage change for the better, not simply do it for the sake of doing it.

gallop has had those against him from the start and who want to point out errors before they become errors. i believe that the only reason why people want change to the golden point is because it was a gallop led initiative and they will never support antything he does or give him credence.

they call rugby league ''womans day for men'' and guys love to whine as much as woman sometimes. and he has born the brunt of it.

the supporters criticize the changes and then complain that they did not go far enough. 

perfect example is the TV rights. you have plenty of media people saying that we did not get a good return last time. last time we did not have two games on friday and that was a risk. could of been a flop.

no one wanted monday night football. that was a massive risk and now when you look at the top 100 foxtel shows for the year, it is a guarentee that every single monday night football game is in the top 100 shows for the year. not the week or the month, for the year.

they attack him for not getting enough cash for monday night football and 5 years ago they attacked him for having monday night football and said it would never work.

they attacked him for dropping reserve grade and do not realise that it was more important to have every talented school kid signed up by an nrl club asap in order to tunnel them into the game. better than paying a group of 20 odd 25yr olds to travel around the country to be watched by 50 people. people dont realise the positives of shifting from having a reserve grade to a toyota cup. 

i am amazed though that you have people celebrating his departure. not many people hold the top job in any company, sport, state or commonwealth for 10years and have every year better than the last. maybe the growth was not as far as some would like and maybe the risks were not taken. the fact is though that you have 16 clubs building towards a future and 16 clubs that can go from being the worse team in the comp to the best team in the comp in a year. it is a competition that must be the envy of many sports around the world and as a supporter i think gallop has a lot to be thanked for that.  
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I would have thought the more pertinent question would have been, why was he given a 4 year deal when he was always going to step aside on appointment and settling in of the commission?
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Think we all suspect the answer to that one mate.
 
Imo pre-planned, leaving Gallop with a sufficiently nice pay-out as a sweetener against any subsequent recrims.  Though am sure there was still a confidentiality agreement as part of the severence arrangement.
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I think you are right on the money there mate!!
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it was part of the condition of news ltd letting go of the game that gallop was given a 4yr contract and it had a 1yr payout clause if he left early. 

he is not getting paid out the contract. news said that it is important to them through foxtel that the league remains strong and they believed it would be a result of having gallop there at the helm and it was important to them. i am sure they wanted to look after someone that had done the right thing by them.

in the end, he was courted to joing the ICC in dubai and now the talk is about going to the FFA. he would earn a lot more than at those positions. i do not think the money he was earning was in comparitive to what he will earn now and you can only put it down to the fact that to put up with all that hell for that amount of money, he must of loved the game and the job
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I don't think anyone can honestly argue he didn't leave the game in a better state than he inherited. The point is, he is still toxic and a constant reminder to many of the bad experience(from traditional clubs perspective) of Super League. The new Commission is meant to be a clean cut from News Limited Having him hanging around was never going to happen, so a 4 year deal was pointless  
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Todd Greenburg should do the job,does a great job at the Dogs.


Could not runa chook raffle. No way in the world should they chase him for the job.


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Why is it said it was a difficult in Leagues history when he took over the running of the game ?

The only reason it was in that position was because of his employers.

There was not much wrong under the leadership of Arthurson and Quayle. The gelati hit the fan when Foxtel came into existence and they needed a flagship sport and ripped League to shreads.


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Why is it said it was a difficult in Leagues history when he took over the running of the game ?

The only reason it was in that position was because of his employers.

There was not much wrong under the leadership of Arthurson and Quayle. The gelati hit the fan when Foxtel came into existence and they needed a flagship sport and ripped League to shreads.
He took over in 2002 as a compromise CEO to repair the fracture created by the Super League situation. I think he has successfully done that
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Nostrawaggus predicts:
Tony Abbott is ripe for a Malcolm Turnbull coup and as a result will resign from politics and take Gallop's job at the NRL.
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Joe Hockey and the template of doom

June 6, 2012 - 5:28PM

 

Shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey says the Coalition will hold Labor to its promise

Joe Hockey says Wayne Swan  is the 'scariest thing in Australia. 

 POOR old Joe.

Forced to flick the default personality switch from ''generally avuncular'' to ''prophet of doom'', Hockey flailed at a loss, sinking deeper the more he spun in his own rhetorical quicksand.

Good economic news was just that. Good.

However the Coalition narrative demanded it be spun into something less good. Something bloody awful.

Well, we were good, us plucky Aussies, spending and saving and growing, resilient and all — don't get me wrong.

It was just The Government that was Bad. A shambles actually. And our success proved it — Australia could be, or perhaps it was already, paradise lost, or in danger of being lost, or ... something.

Good economic data evidenced, somehow, the deficiency and incompetence of the Gillard Government. ''Imagine how well our country could do if we had a good government,'' Mr Hockey blustered, truly heroic in his quest for badness and sadness.

And as for that Treasurer Wayne Swan, (who, given Australia's 4 per cent annual growth rate, had earlier called for a moratorium on doom-saying about the economy?)

Mr Swan was the ''scariest thing in Australia''.

Adrian Dodd, on Twitter, pretended to agree with Mr Hockey's analysis. ''I loved him in Wolf Creek.'' Blogger Possum Comitatus did not pretend to agree. He demurred. ''There's scarier things in my fridge than Wayne Swan.''

(This observation seemed, on balance, true enough — of my neglected fridge at least, given our buttoned down Treasurer bristles periodically, and broils, and sometimes permits himself to emit a squawk of pure, unvarnished irritation — but rarely bites.)

The heroic Hockey epic badness analysis continued.

This was not the time to price carbon (when Australia's rate of economic growth was among the strongest in the developed world).

This was not the time to tax the mining industry (when the red-dust-on-the-shoes set doing so well they are expanding and investing and drilling and generally prospering to such a degree that one journalist today pointed out Western Australia was actually growing faster than China.)

It was a simple case of black being white. If you say it often enough.

Mr Hockey's little ironic smile that flashed as he departed the podium seemed to telegraph more than words could that it would have been better left unsaid.

Katharine Murphy is The Age's national affairs correspondent, and writes The Pulse blog for The National Times.



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Hmmm..Joe Hockey running the NRL...it could work!
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The question I need answered from those people who think he did a bad job is how did he do a bad job?
 
I mean what area was he bad in?
 
Was he a bad administrator because he deducted melbourne two premierships and all their points when they were found out cheating on a extreme scale? I mean that footage of Phil Gould berating Gallop on the footy show is just a example of why Gould is bad for the game. You can noy punish the players, you can noy punish the fans, you can not punish the sponsors and you can not punish the staff, of a club which cheats, so who do you blame and punish. Complete idiot on this issue, and we all know why. Gould does not like the salary cap, Well news for you Phil if you do not like how the game is run, become a ceo of a club and aim for the top job and control it yourself, or if you do not wnat to do that get out of the sport completely, we do not need people like you holding onto ancient vendettas.
 
Or do you think he was harsh when he slammed a four week ban and pulled all the games promos with Brett Stewart when he made his mistake, and lets face it a lack of evidence does not mean you are innocent, it means nothing can be proven, big difference.
 
Or do you think he erred when he took a stance against domestic violence with Lui and others.
 
Or did he err when overseeing the mergers that took place or the addition of the Gold Coast.
 
The only area he erred in in my opinion was using the MCIntyre system for the finals. I still think it should be a top five, but financially that will never return so the change to the AFL structured system showed that although belated he saw the light.
 
I am very interested to hear where those who say good riddance think he messed up! 
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I suppose North Sydney Bears fans and the Central Coast people might blame him for something, but hey hard decisions need to be made, in my opinion he should of got rid of more sydney clubs.
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He erred by being there 10 years.
These days, in any sporting field there are very few who stay at the top for 10 years.
We have become used to change.
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Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

I suppose North Sydney Bears fans and the Central Coast people might blame him for something, but hey hard decisions need to be made, in my opinion he should of got rid of more sydney clubs.
 
He is, as the press has said reactionary rather than positive.
 
He takes Rugby Leagues heartlands for granted. The Central Coast will always be Rugby League so no need to put a team in there.
 
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Voyager, What positive things has he done ? What innovations has he introduced ?
 
The game would have evolved in this manner whether he was there or not, it would have done so if he and his filthy paymasters had not raped and pillaged the great game.
 
The Gold Coast is hardly an original move and is hardly working.
 
Extra time for a draw, what a wank. What was wrong with a draw anyway ? And if it had to be golden point it should have been golden try.
 
He will not be missed.
 


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Very junior associate with Holman Webb (News Limited's legal counsel) when appointed as CEO without the apparent experience and capability that the position demanded.
 
Been there 10 years and looks like he's been there 20.  That's what happens when John Hartigan was for so long the puppetmaster, and he the puppet.  Albeit one who could lay claim to some minor innovations but who was hung out to dry whenever his (News Limited's) decisions went awry, and after he himself eventually lost the support of those people who unsurprisingly wanted the new Commission to leave the spectre of News and Super League well behind as they moved positively into the future.
 
Might be a very nice hard-working bloke with a particular level of talent and experience which may very well lead to a nice niche in Sports Administration.  But a contender for a significant position in the FFA? 
 
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reading the thoughts of Djebel, you can see runfer why gallop was so good.

the thoughts on central coast are a great one. you have people wanting to put a team from the national competition into a market with a populcation of 200,000 people. and many of them already support a team. look at the issues that the sharks have while suffering the same fate. no market and all you would be doing is canibalising the knights who can grow that area. 

gallop knows this and that is why the central coast was never a viable option. but he is scene as a bad leader for making an intelligent decision.

golden point is another area that the gallop haters like to focus on. what is wrong with a draw? everything. it is the most dillibating boring result that leaves everyone disappointed. you look at the field at the end of an afl drawn match and you see all the players standing were they finished. disappointed. do we play sport or watch it for that reason. no. why do we want to have a situation were players and fans are left this way. 

and then you have the greatest short sighted opinion of them all. the golden try. this to me was when i was really impressed with gallop when he came out and said that it was simply why it was not implemented. people complain about penalties given or not given with golden point, if you had godlen try, you would be ludicrous to not give a penalty. you would see constant penalites. and if a team decided to kick the goal, then the next goal, then the next goal and then the other team scored a try, well they would win even though they had scored 2 points less.

gallop could see the consequences of actions and accepted he had to take the flack for it. 

gould had a great quote and i do not think he knows how much of a compliment he was giving gallop. he said the commission would be judged on the next tv contract as a reflection of the increase in value of the product. the fact that we are talking about multiplying the last contract by 3 suggests that he has increased the value of the game in 5years by this mount. no one complained about the money last time because they thought it was a great get. the nrl will reap the benefits of gallops vision and creation and development of league in this country in this tv rights deal and has never been better positioned. ever
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