Gai Waterhouse

Bi Carb wrote: People where predicting a few might drop off this spring , given a change in the integrity landscape.

I was at Kembla on Saturday and we had a horse that was meant to run in the same race as Donelle. She looked an easy winner on paper after racing competitively at group level with race and trial form on rain affected ground.

She drew one outside our filly and as is the Gai-way you knew she would lead. Knocked up in the straight.

As far as our filly went, there is always a way to get beaten in racing. She was in the tie-up stall before the race after being washed. While being dried some horses walked past and she took a step forward as if to follow them. The tie-ups stopped her, her back feet slipped on the rubber mat and she went down in an ugly sort of way in the stall.

Although she got up without too much obvious damage she of course had to be scratched.

Can anyone answer a couple of questions for me about the setup at Kembla?

First is that every tie-up stall has rubber matting in it which seems quite smooth. When it gets wet from water or horse manure or urine they look quite slippery.

Second, instead of walking horses in a separate exercise yard, all the horses just walked around the stall block which meant that every 20 secs before a race there was a continual parade of horses being walked right past our stall.

It was our filly's first time at the races and there was enough going on in her head coping with the normal raceday atmosphere without the distraction of a line of horses walking past her. Nobody used the exercise yard to walk any of their horses.

Any comments from anyone involved in strapping or training?

Thanks Gay. Only one stall in the whole complex had taken the trouble to put some straw down. Before the incident I saw a small amount of wet manure behind our filly and commented on it loud enough for the strapper to hear that it looked like a potential issue. My mate pointed out that many of the stalls had similar and we weren't the experts.

I'll hear today how she pulled up but she settled down nicely after a 10 mins or so and seemed to walk without issue from this non-expert's viewpoint. I'm sure she would have been sore on Sun morning though.

Who's your trainer? - it's his fault! - should have been attending to your filly and ensuring nothing happened, especially an inexperienced one! If he hasn't claimed responsibility, sack him.

I've always said that 80%of training racehorses comes down to commonsense. How often have I seen comments from supposed 'lay' ppl & remarks on here that are so incredibly true or sensible, only to be qualified by "But I'm not a trainer or no expert" You don't need to be, just bear in mind the damned things are so wound up they'll break a leg without thinking, so it's our job to minimise the bloody risk. I get so wild when seeing accidents waiting to happen because the owner foots the bill every time & is usually fobbed off with some b@#$! bad luck story.............never mind the fate of the horse whose fault it was not
Hosing water in ears is one of my major hates & booting it in the guts or face when it's been good enough to allow itself to be caught after the rider's fallen off

Sunline wrote: Couldn't find the Gai thread - can only assume it was closed by VSP. Anyone else notice Greatwood and the one she declared will win the Caulfield Cup Laidback Larry were 1st and 2nd around the turn, before finishing 2nd last and last - some distance from the Waller trained He's Your Man?

I'm sorry to hijack a Gai thread but our filly has pulled up 100% after her dramas on Saturday and we've nominated for a 1200m Maiden at Kembla this Saturday. Against open age and sex unfortunately rather than the 3yo fillies race last Sat but the upside is we don't have to take on Waterhouse, O'Shea, Pride, Ryan, Baker or Pfieffer either with their lightly raced 3yo's.

James Bond Esq wrote: I had a very good horse once. Trailed fantastically against some horses that went on to Group 1 glory. Could have been anything. Before its first race start at Caulfield, it slipped over on some wet matting that someone else had been hosing down. It sprained its knee and never ever raced. Saddest day I had.

Saddest day until Kim Kardashian leaves Oz....

But it is not Kim that is evil, it is the media and their hapless obsession with meaningless absurd things.

Gay3 wrote: Looney wrote: Sunline wrote: Couldn't find the Gai thread - can only assume it was closed by VSP. Anyone else notice Greatwood and the one she declared will win the Caulfield Cup Laidback Larry were 1st and 2nd around the turn, before finishing 2nd last and last - some distance from the Waller trained He's Your Man? It's very obvious that who ever runs this forum is a Gai Lover. If you want this thread to stay open - keep it ALL positive and what ever you do DO NOT tell the truth behind Gai's horses.  Truth is one thing, slander another, so anyone who wants to post potential litigious information better forward their full details to The Mayor along with an acceptance to bear full responsibility for any financial repercussions. There are many negative posts both here & in numerous other 'Gai' threads but when their numbers are overtaken by potentially defaming ones, it's easier for mods to simply remove the thread. We're not paid, so don't feel obliged to spend hours removing posts that should not be here in the 1st place

Looney wrote: I have never seen anyone making a false spoken statement about horses trained out of Tulloch Lodge.  Posters have just been stating the true proven facts of what goes on....but forum just like this one keep deleting threads.

And why do you think that is? Mods remove the offensive thread as fast as it comes thru' but when there's a barrage of them it becomes too much to stay on top of, especially late at night, so the thread is then hidden.

Freefall wrote: I'm sorry to hijack a Gai thread but our filly has pulled up 100% after her dramas on Saturday and we've nominated for a 1200m Maiden at Kembla this Saturday. Against open age and sex unfortunately rather than the 3yo fillies race last Sat but the upside is we don't have to take on Waterhouse, O'Shea, Pride, Ryan, Baker or Pfieffer either with their lightly raced 3yo's.

Signature Miss?

I heard from a friend who was talking to the trainer that day and apparently the incident was very minor but you can't beat the stewards ruling, I guess.

Kerry's a great trainer and bloke, you've made the right choice. Is your filly one of the ones previously trained by G.Walter? I know he received a decent batch from his stable as Guy had quite a good opinion of him as a trainer. He's particular good with training stayers, my father has a couple of horses with Kerry, one of which has had some decent success in the city. It's been great fun.

Good luck with your filly

Its all becoming embarrassing for her.
But she is so on herself she wont even be aware.

she still might win the melbourne cup - not many have done that 2 years in a row

jujuno wrote:  has set the women's movement back a few years by her admission in Geraldine Doogue's new book "The Climb" that it is a man's world and she has to pander to their egos..

You read a book by Geraldine Doogue??