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Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

To be honest Brudder, I could not care less....


No problems, Voyagers. Your post always give interesting insight and are worth reading...
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Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

If it draws another field like this next year I would strip out 80% of the prizemoney and reduce it to G2.Thumbs Down


I would go the other way T.

I am not usually behind the VRC with their bullying tactics for spring and their single mindedness for their own carnival, but add 2 million to this, and make it the wfa championship to rival the Cox Plate.

Winx has saved wfa middle distance racing in Australia the last few years, but when she departs our tracks, we will be left with a very ordinary lot of wfa horses.

Just on this race, are we thinking Shillelagh can run the 2000m?   



There has been no quality and depth in numbers for years..
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Extra Brut
Blair House
Latrobe
Octabella


STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

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In truth the race has been relative rubbish for many years with a field mainly comprising beaten Cox Plate runners or a final blow-out for Melbourne Cup contestants.

I presume (without actually knowing) that Blair House is running after his 2nd in the Caulfield Stakes because of a setback that kept him out of the Cox.  And Latrobe hasn't started since his run in the 2800m Irish St Leger so (without knowing once again) must have had a problem that precluded him running in the Cup or the Cox.  

Bottom line: without them the race would be relative rubbish yet again, just without the Melbourne Cup hopefuls having their final (Bart Cummings speciality) final hit out.




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Latrobe wasn't ready for the Cup.

Blair House was kept out of the Cox to run here as they thought it was more winnable.
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Originally posted by breeding_above_all breeding_above_all wrote:

This seems like a bit of a disastrous race to win for handicapping and La Trobe getting into the MC on a light weight... bizarre.. you would think Lloyd would be dodging the handicapper at every turn

La Trobe wouldn't win a MC.
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Hasn't there been talk the last few years that Euros should target this race for the prize money, rather than the Cups? Surprised that it's taken this long.
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Thanks Speed and don't for a moment doubt what you've read, even if I agree re Latrobe and query the Blair House info.

In any event it hardly changes the scenario: without them the field is ordinary and will continue to remain so in the future imo.

Over to others.

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We'll have a new Cox Plate winner next season. I'll bet my middle testicle he backs up into this.


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Yep. Appleby said they had little chance of beating Benbatl in the CP let alone Winx.  

$375K for third there V $1.2M win tomorrow, which he should do against that lot.
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Putting a lot of trust in Dazzling Darren here but I am going to assume Extra Brut has thrived since the Derby.

He is by far the best horse in the race.


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Lol. Are you not a disciple of the Au middle distance credo then?
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Or the '3yo's are a mediocre lot' credo - with a couple of exceptions?
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Was just thinking BH will probably start a shade of sauce tomorrow, better get on. Too late. $2.30 last night, evens now. Tote might be the only hope
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

We'll have a new Cox Plate winner next season. I'll bet my middle testicle he backs up into this.

You have a middle testicle?  Shocked

ps an old and to this day huge mate of mine only had one testicle, and that attracted rather than turned off prospective lady friends - after word got around.  He and his missus later had five children proving, as he'd later say, that one ball does it all.

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Originally posted by Brudder_A Brudder_A wrote:

Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

To be honest Brudder, I could not care less....


No problems, Voyagers. Your post always give interesting insight and are worth reading...


It just makes me laugh when I hear trainers or owners or media types say we should cap internationals.

As was stated before the Cup this week, and again by Shrunk, in the Melbourne Cup thread, the field for this years cup would have been less than inspiring, if they had not shown up!
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Putting a lot of trust in Dazzling Darren here but I am going to assume Extra Brut has thrived since the Derby.

He is by far the best horse in the race.


I think if you like Extra Brute then Mickey is worth a couple of bucks eachway...have taken $41.00, not much damage done if he flops
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The horses are less hardy these days. Need to race less often, longer space between runs. That's why we have more G1s.Geek Do the math. It all adds up.Thumbs Up
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BLAIR HOUSE to beat LATROBE/SHILLELAGH/DOUBT DEFYING for me.

Might have something the place on DOUBT DEFYING who is in best form.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   They are an ordinary lot .

The struggling leader =Trap For Fools might run a race EW


WOOO HOOO What a BEAUTY
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Got to give credit how he dug in.
Though 100m out that he would be run over but reckon we he saw them coming he found a reason not to let them pass him.

Tuff win !
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