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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Who does Macron negotiate with on the fuel tax or budget repair issues?

The anarchist rent a mob?

Suddenly anarchist rent-a-mobs exist to the people who pretended they didn't. Those rent-a-mobs sure do a good job of obfuscating things that matter to honest folk, don't they?
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I dont even know what that means. Clown
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Which bit?
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Dont worry. I am sure it is only a potshot, and I dont really want it clarified.
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Nah really, which bit? I would have thought that rent-a-mobs are pretty well known about these days?
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The rent a crowd only exist, in pts mind, when pt's side is out numbered.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

The rent a crowd only exist, in pts mind, when pt's side is out numbered.

From the second paragraph of the article you posted yesterday. Do you even read what you post?



The violence of the protests, named for the yellow vests worn by those on the streets, is partly the work of extremist, anarchist groups pursuing illusory political goals.

Others involved are casseurs or "wreckers", who've inserted themselves in the movement to fight the police and loot stores for the appeal of doing damage and the lure of personal profit.

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I don't think anyone's doubting rent-a-mobs exist. Maybe you, until now?
What's interesting in France is the huge support of the yellow vesters from all types of people across the spectrum for only the same handful of reasons- and funnily enough desiring anarchy doesn't make the list for any of them. Funny how the MSM has chosen to over-emphasize the influence of the anarchist losers and professional protestors in France, while counting the same types as legitimate protestors against Trump etc.
Crazy world.
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This should be way bigger news than all the US gossip. Something big is happening in a key country of world politics, and for reasons that matter to the whole globalism experiment. And we hear next to nothing about it.
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The mob haven't started constructing guillotines yet have they?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The mob haven't started constructing guillotines yet have they?

And there we go again making light of it. I'd call you "racist" but I think it's less than that.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

This should be way bigger news than all the US gossip. Something big is happening in a key country of world politics, and for reasons that matter to the whole globalism experiment. And we hear next to nothing about it.

The retreat to nationalism isn't faring so well either. Look at the Brexit debacle. As much of, if not bigger story.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

This should be way bigger news than all the US gossip. Something big is happening in a key country of world politics, and for reasons that matter to the whole globalism experiment. And we hear next to nothing about it.


The retreat to nationalism isn't faring so well either. Look at the Brexit debacle. As much of, if not bigger story.

Thanks to a weak leader to begin with...
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Lot more to it than that. Idealism mugged by reality.
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Can't see how the yellow vest French whingers protest has much to do with globalism.

Who are the protesters and what are their grievances?

Protesters have largely come from peripheral towns, cities and rural areas across France and include many women and single mothers. Most of the protesters have jobs, including as secretaries, IT workers, factory workers, delivery workers and care workers. All say their low incomes mean they cannot make ends meet at the end of the month.

The movement is predominantly against a tax system perceived as unfair and unjust, but there are numerous grievances and differences of opinion. Most want to scrap the fuel taxes, hold a review of the tax system, raise the minimum wage and roll back Macron’s tax cuts for the wealthy and his pro-business economic programme. But some also want parliament dissolved and Macron to resign.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/03/who-are-the-gilets-jaunes-and-what-do-they-want


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The thing to remember about Macron is the he doesn’t belong to one of the traditional parties. He positioned himself as a true centrist, but was never that popular, getting a modest percentage (around 25%?) of the initial vote. He won the Presidential run off in a landslide because voters of the traditional centre left and centre right parties aligned with him against Le Pen. And the opposition to him now seems to be coming from everywhere.
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He is similar to a Clinton/Blair/Keating Third Way centrist movement exponent. They temper globalization with social equity and self empowerment through health workplace  and education reform.
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Ok. Compare the France situation to our brown island and maybe enough people here will have a say.
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Compare the current Paris situation to the 2005 Paris riots where 10,000 cars were burned and the suburbs blazed for a month. What is the difference? I think they are the same, and it is just that the inequality problems then haven't been addressed adequately.

If we continue to have stagnant wages growth with lowering employment security and dropping living standards we will eventually face the same issues here. Currently our safety nets are better than most, so it hasn't caught up yet, but it will.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Compare the current Paris situation to the 2005 Paris riots where 10,000 cars were burned and the suburbs blazed for a month. What is the difference? I think they are the same, and it is just that the inequality problems then haven't been addressed adequately.

If we continue to have stagnant wages growth with lowering employment security and dropping living standards we will eventually face the same issues here. Currently our safety nets are better than most, so it hasn't caught up yet, but it will.

Don't have a clue what you are talking about with all that money stuff, and pretty sure most people in France don't either, past daily life. That's a big reason why there is such a movement against Macron. Maybe he understands money stuff better than the people?
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Ok. Compare the France situation to our brown island and maybe enough people here will have a say.

Thinking the same stayer, however, i think aussies are too LAZY to protest like that.

Not unless the crowd ....is hired!

Is that why Australia has the political system it has?

PM's dont stay long enough in the seat , to get shot! Moving targets hard to focus on.
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Don't know about what Aussies do politically but care about what's happening in the world.
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"148 high school students arrested today in Mantis-la-Jolie, France. They are protesting against changes to colleges and the university system".


So high school students are part of rent a mob too?
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Probably, it is a very broad grassroots movement. Macron agreed to shelve the fuel tax and the collective produced another list of 20 demands.
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It was never just about a fuel tax.
Approximately 75% citizens of France have multiple issues with Macron.

The biggest reason France is in trouble, isnt just because Macron is a failed wannabe Dictator, the vast majority of Europe dont want anything to do with France. Because of Macron.

Then he made some bizarre plea to create a European army. LOL
He is possibly the most delusional and strange puppet of the modern era.
France is voting him out anyway. Its a short lived delusional puppet.
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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

It was never just about a fuel tax.
Approximately 75% citizens of France have multiple issues with Macron.

The biggest reason France is in trouble, isnt just because Macron is a failed wannabe Dictator, the vast majority of Europe dont want anything to do with France. Because of Macron.

Then he made some bizarre plea to create a European army. LOL
He is possibly the most delusional and strange puppet of the modern era.
France is voting him out anyway. Its a short lived delusional puppet.

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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

It was never just about a fuel tax.
Approximately 75% citizens of France have multiple issues with Macron.

The biggest reason France is in trouble, isnt just because Macron is a failed wannabe Dictator, the vast majority of Europe dont want anything to do with France. Because of Macron.

Then he made some bizarre plea to create a European army. LOL
He is possibly the most delusional and strange puppet of the modern era.
France is voting him out anyway. Its a short lived delusional puppet.


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90% of European nations want to make great deals with Trump.
And 90% of Europe dont want anything to do with Macron.
That pretty much says enough.
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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

"148 high school students arrested today in Mantis-la-Jolie, France. They are protesting against changes to colleges and the university system".


So high school students are part of rent a mob too?
LOL



wow students protesting, now that is unusual LOL
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