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Has a state of emergency been declared yet? Wont be long.

Lock up these rent an anarchists for 20 years and see how keen they are to come out looting and burning innocent peoples homes and businesses the following weekend.


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Fuel is expensive but seems a strange thing to riot over, not like it is food or water.

The French love their violent protest, student riots circa 1969
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The sooner they go electric the better.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Has a state of emergency been declared yet? Wont be long.

Lock up these rent an anarchists for 20 years and see how keen they are to come out looting and burning innocent peoples homes and businesses the following weekend.



are they the same crowd that rant and rave against trump pt?
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No Isaac, Trump protesters are in their millions and zero violence.
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that would depend on what angle you come from pt, and your measure of violence.
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Millions of protesters have taken to the streets of cities in the US and around the globe to rally against the new US President Donald Trump.

Larger numbers of demonstrators than expected turned out for more than 600 rallies worldwide

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38705586

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Do they have protest marches in China Isaac, or do they still roll tanks over them?
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where did this come from pt?

Trump inauguration: Violent protests in Washington DC

Violent protests broke out and a limo was set on fire in Washington DC as President Donald Trump was sworn in as president.www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38700648/trump-inauguration-violent-protests-in-washington-dc

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china? any would be protesters are sent for re education pt.

you know thatLOL
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Timeline of protests against Donald Trump

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_protests_against_Donald_Trump
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So all those hundreds of protests with millions of people involved and one car torched?
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you sure about that pt?
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Just going by the links you posted.

Are you saying that anti Trump marches are violent like the ones in France, bearing in mind that anti Trump includes Republicans with Democrats and Independents. 
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Amazing comparing the bleaters on this thread to the Trump hysteria.
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you win pt.

the state of emergency is imminent...i presume.
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Don't know, but a state of emergency isn't a win for anyone and should be avoided. 
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Where is the MSM coverage of this? The silence is more than deafening.
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Increase in fuel tax has been cancelled by Macron
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Well done whale. Good googling.
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French government preparing to suspend fuel tax increases: source


PARIS (Reuters) - The French government is preparing to suspend fuel tax increases, a government source said on Tuesday, following violent protests against the measures.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe was due to announce the suspension later on Tuesday, the source added, in what would mark President Emmanuel Macron’s first significant U-turn on a major policy since taking power in 2017.

The so-called “yellow vests” protests, which started on Nov. 17, were focused on denouncing a squeeze on household spending brought about by Macron’s taxes on diesel, which he says are necessary to combat climate change and protect the environment.

However, they have since evolved into a bigger, general anti-Macron uprising, with many criticizing the president for pursuing policies they claim favor the richest members of French society.

Protests in Paris on Saturday turned particularly violent, with the Arc de Triomphe defaced and avenues off the capital’s Champs Elysees suffering damage.

The demonstrations have been given the “yellow vest” tag due to the fluorescent jackets kept in all vehicles in France, and the protests are estimated to have cost millions to the economy.

Reporting by Simon Carraud and Marine Pennetier; Editing by Laurence Frost and Keith Weir

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/french-government-preparing-to-suspend-fuel-tax-increases-source-idUSKBN1O30MX

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Thanks reuters
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France's 'gilets jaunes' are angry, and clearly not going to take it anymore

By Claude Poissenot

Updated Tue at 9:48am

France's "gilets jaunes" protests of December 1 were marked not only by their anger and violence, but also by the variety of people taking part.

The violence of the protests, named for the yellow vests worn by those on the streets, is partly the work of extremist, anarchist groups pursuing illusory political goals.

Others involved are casseurs or "wreckers", who've inserted themselves in the movement to fight the police and loot stores for the appeal of doing damage and the lure of personal profit.

But it seems that some of the gilets jaunes themselves wanted to fight. Above all, they are expressing their anger out loud.

The 'people' fight back as living costs soar

The protesters consider themselves as representative of "the people". Their motives — which include falling purchasing power and rising taxes — are often coupled with frustrations about the gap between the French government and its citizens. This theme has come out in the choice of sites targeted in the violence — the Elysée presidential palace, administrative buildings, banks and luxury shops.Many of those protesting feel neglected and oppressed. For the most part they're employed, but their incomes often don't meet their needs, despite the exhaustion they feel from their work. The simple promise of being able to live off one's income is no longer being kept. It's no longer possible for somebody to lead their life as they please.

How can the ideal of autonomy be achieved if the riches of society aren't shared more widely?

These are the sentiments felt by couples who say they "can't get by" despite having two jobs, or young workers who still live with their parents because their income is insufficient or too unstable for them to move out.

The anger on display in the protests stems from this impossible equation. And since the collective notion of social class has disappeared in France, this anger is now being experienced on a personal level. Difficult living conditions are now more a matter of personal experience than a condition of class.

The anger from within

Religion has long sought to control anger by placing it among the deadly sins. Yet, as French society has become more secular, religion is no longer working to hold anger back.

French society is also made up of people who think of themselves as autonomous. Today's important relationship is with one's self — there is a value placed on authenticity, on personal development, or on listening to your own body.

As the distance from those who govern us increases, it's become convenient to listen to ourselves and our emotions much more.

The success of emoticons in messaging apps and texts are a clear sign of this, and personal feelings are now guiding our lives in thousands of different ways.

In this context, anger is understandable because it's experienced as a moment of internal connection or clarity. I am even more myself because I am angry — because I'm as close as possible to the inner fire that animates and illuminates me. The pronoun "I" actually fuels this anger. It's a form of self-expression, like a work of art is for an artist.

At the barricades, or on animated conversations on Facebook, people have the opportunity to meet others with whom they can share and multiply anger that has only been experienced personally until now.

Fuelling more anger

Political parties and trade unions also once controlled and channelled this anger. Now, they no longer can. They've been accused of trying to use the gilets jaunes movement or even trying to subvert a point of view that's deeply personal. Those in power are confronted with groups of people acting individually, some of whose self-esteem is centred around their anger.

As the old saying goes, la colère est mauvaise conseillère or "anger is a bad counsellor". New perspectives and alternative ways forward are urgently needed.

There are few tangible signs that the anger of the gilets jaunes is being taken seriously, and this is perceived as a sign of contempt — not for the organisation, since there is none, but for each person wearing a yellow vest.

That will further fuel their anger.

In the face of many individual experiences that have sparked such anger, it's necessary to explore and develop rational arguments. At the same time, we can't forget how each person wearing a yellow vest experiences his or her own situation. It won't be possible to achieve the first without the second.

Learning to be oneself

When the anger subsides, France must learn lessons from the unprecedented gilets jaunes movement. The crisis of representation is deeply affecting the way people are defining themselves politically.

In an appeal published on December 1 in the French newspaper Journal du Dimanche, a group calling itself the "gilets jaunes libres" called for regular referendums on large social issues and proportional representation at the next parliamentary elections. This is not surprising. Other ways of moving forward need to be explored, including establishing representative groups drawn at random from lists of voters — a process known as sortition.From the point of view of citizens, work is needed to be done to better understand the place of the individual within contemporary society. Everyone has a claim to construct their life in the way they want to — and this is an essential source of liberation. We are fortunate to live in a society that opens up so many opportunities for us all — one that's a long way away from the rigid social restrictions of the past.

But this freedom cannot be without limits. It involves participating in the community and caring for others. How can France bring together individuals who think they are autonomous but who have to live in a world of finite resources? It is this dizzying question that we must answer, each and every one of us.

Claude Poissenot is a research professor at IUT Nancy-Charlemagne and at the Centre for Research on Mediation at the University of Lorraine. This article first appeared on The Conversation.

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Macron would be slightly left of Labor in Australia.
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They think they are hard done by while the EU props up all their farming etc.  They need to get out of France and see how the rest of the world does it.
A 2 bedroom cottage on the edge of a big city,,,Toulouse ,,,,with all mod cons etc,,,the same sort of one here where I live , in the sticks, would sell for approx 400 thous $$$  There it was 45 thous euros.  Whats that ?  About 100 thousand dollars ?? 
Yes its expensive in Paris, but not much worse than Sydney, but out in the country side its no worse than here in Ozz. 
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Who does Macron negotiate with on the fuel tax or budget repair issues?

The anarchist rent a mob?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Who does Macron negotiate with on the fuel tax or budget repair issues?



The banking elite that nancyboy puppet Macron represents.

The odds of Macron being assassinated is now more like $1.01

Both the right wing, the left wing, the conservatives, hate his guts.

I note the western media now trying to say its just a few hooligans that are protesting. LOL
Tell that to the millions of normal French citizens that have been peacefully protesting against puppet Macron throughout this year.


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