John Hawkes

As for the Hawkes, the longer Wayne has them in the Melbourne stable the slower they go.

15 Oct 2022 at 6:12pm

Anthony and Sam Freedman going ordinary with just 6% winners to runners and no city successes from their last 50.

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Darley purchased her. after camarilla she slipped to reset, now there is a full brother colt which will be a yearling this year.

Thats good Lucian. I hope you enjoyed you're open DAY.
Look, Im not saying he's not good to his horses owners. He's just not good to the owners of the sport.

Then the latest syndication promos 'race a horse with Hawkes' and 'share the thrill of ownership..' etc must be talking of someone else mc.
How can you get expect people to invest in what is a social event ,if they're not going to be socialising. Why would you racea horse with a non entity?
Sure he may bea nice guy and Snowden is his rep, but geez it would be lovely for those free to airch 9 broadcasts to actually show the....
1 Commonwealths leading trainer of winners.
2 The most succesful trainer wins & prizemoney-Australia.
3 The other half of the Beadman-? equation.
4 The trainer of several 'Champs of the turf'.
5 The leading trainer for the Inghams....
etc etc etc
Maybe your right. Who wants to see and hear someone like that on TV during the biggest days racing. Did I mention CH 9 was broadcasting. Ooops I did didnt I.
Oh well , I guess all those 'small' owners would be rapt that Hawkesy's watching them on tele from home- NOT from the track.

good trainer but as for being a good bloke ask brian ralph what he thinks of him and perhaps woolston up in queensland might have an opinion as well, and why has the secretary in melbourne been on stress leave for the last couple of years.

mmmmm a John Hawkes appreciation day hey Bagman, better do one for Wayne then too 

I'm not sure it's a major issue Baggie, there's 'bread and butter' owners in Melb, Bris and Adl who would never get to share that thrill with JH..It probably makes good logistical sense to monitor his enormous operation from the one location, and may even give comfort to some of his smaller owners to know that Hawkes is just as interested in the performance of their horse..

A Group 1 is a Group 1 in my books and it doesnt matter if its run in Sydney or Perth under any conditions.

Spot on Lucian this whole debate about Hawkes is frivolous and stupid. The bloke does his job well and as an owner thats all that matters end of discussion.

You better ask Wortel about how J.Hawkes cant train Group 1 winners

I am interested to know who has openly admitted he can not train group 1 winners ?

What a load of crap Gentleman Jim. Hawkes is a true professional who works massive hours trying to generate as many winners as possible out of his big stable. I know myself when i go to the races that i don't get enough time always to check out how the track is playing, etc to try and maximise the chances of picking future winners on the day and that would be one of the main reasons he chooses to stay at home and communicate his thoughts to Peter Snowden at the track. It allows Hawkes to watch replays and keep an eye on runners all round Australia. His record over the past few years indicates what he is doing works. I do not think owners would care if they spend a few minutes at the track with Snowden instead of Hawkes so long as they get a nice return on their costly investments. At the moment most of Hawke's owners would be quite happy with how their horses are being trained.

Agreed Bagman

Terrible for the image of racing

It is far better for the integrity of racing to get positive swabs than be seen attending the races.

The bloke needs to get it together....and fast

i believe he just likes to place his bets in private