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Why is this thread still going? ... I think I blinked and missed the WAR!!!!, RRREEEEE!!!!Stern Smile
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Hasn't started yet.

When does the US withdrawal from Iraq start?
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Nostradumbass continues...
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When does school go back stayer?
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Can this go in the sad threads one yet?
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Much more of your quality input will definitely condemn it.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

A tragic coincidence it seems


It will give conspiracy theorists orgasms.Sleepy


Stupid bloody Iranians. Now tell me, how do you cock that up? How can you think a plane taking off from your own freaking airport is a security risk?Wacko
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More unintended consequences of an illegal unwise assassination?

How many are dead now?
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As suspected - Clearly a Muscovite made rocket brought down UIA FL 752....




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With so many hands dirty and the consequences huge, the politics of this has got off to a slow start.

Even chief propagandist Donald Trump Jr isn't allowed to go in beyond claiming Democrats are Iranian apologists.

WW1 stared from an assassination of an heir presumptive.
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Yes but there were treaties that countries honoured back in the day no matter how stupid the consequences. Who is going to war with America because they have a defence treaty with Iran? Nobody.
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I doubt very much that Iran's principle allies and military suppliers Russia and China would engage in a hot war with them, but they will certainly ramp up support to help drive America out of Iraq. They are already replacing all of Iran's military hardware including shield defence systems. The rocket battery allegedly used in this event was Russia supplied.

Isn't there supposed to be sanctions on Iran?

Just making the point that the higher the profile of the person you assassinate the greater the repercussions. If they had blown up a few low level military people, Iran wouldn't have responded in the way it did, a show of force for public consumption.
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Iran will be attacking Israel.
Israel is their primary target.
History time lines show that Iran waits, bides their time, picks their moment, then attacks Israel.
Their revenge list is short, and Israel is on the top of their list.

Just the usual unethical garbage going on between all parties.
Unimaginative idiots that think war is the way forward.
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 https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/ukraine-passenger-jet-was-likely-shot-down-by-iran-pentagon-20200110-p53q9l.html

Trudeau not taking any crap from Iran either.
He’s not orange so how can the darling of the left be personally belittled ?
What a conundrum 
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ran’s Civil Aviation Authority head, Ali Abedzadeh, told CNN the country may need outside help to decode the black box on the Ukrainian airliner because it is damaged.

"Generally speaking, Iran has the potential and know-how to decode the black box. Everybody knows that," he said.

However, Abedzadeh said, “the black box of this very Ukrainian Boeing 737 is damaged. Ukrainian Aviation experts arrived here in Tehran today. We had a session with them. From tomorrow they will start decoding the data.”

He added: “If the available equipment is not enough to get the content,” Iran will outsource the boxes to “the experts from France or Canada.”

“Then whatever is the result will be published and publicized to the world," Abedzadeh said.

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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

 https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/ukraine-passenger-jet-was-likely-shot-down-by-iran-pentagon-20200110-p53q9l.html

Trudeau not taking any crap from Iran either.
He’s not orange so how can the darling of the left be personally belittled ?
What a conundrum 


I am old enough to remember Tony Abbott promising to shirtfront Vladamir Putin over the shooting down of MH17 over Ukraine.

Trudeau has to say whatever the Canadian people would expect in such a situation but what he can do practically is about zero.
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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Iran will be attacking Israel.
Israel is their primary target.
History time lines show that Iran waits, bides their time, picks their moment, then attacks Israel.
Their revenge list is short, and Israel is on the top of their list.

Just the usual unethical garbage going on between all parties.
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Iran will not attack Israel. They are not stupid as shown by their retaliatory attack in Iraq,  shows that they are standing up for themself but designed to do little real harm.
They may send the occasional missile to Israel but an all out attack would mean their obliteration, they know it
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“The killing of Soleimani is a U.S. event, not an Israeli event, and we should stay out of it," Netanyahu said, according to reports by Axios that cited two ministers who attended the meeting.

The prime minister gave further instructions for Cabinet officials not to engage the press in commentary about the attack – which has ramped up the tensions between the U.S. and the Middle East and escalated the likelihood of a retaliatory attack – in order to ensure that Israel's longtime rivals do not get the impression that it was involved in last week's deadly drone strike.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

More unintended consequences of an illegal unwise assassination?

How many are dead now?

Someone's officially gone kookoo.
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Couldn't agree more stayer, an insane action, but I must disagree he has gone kookoo. he has always been nutz.
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Trump is ‘dangerous and incapacitated’ and urgent action must be taken, psychiatrists say in wake of Iran crisis

A coalition of mental health professionals says Congress must take war-making powers out of the president's hands

  • Andrew Feinberg The White House, Washington DC @AndrewFeinberg

  • A group of mental health professionals have warned Congress it must act urgently to demand Donald Trump undergo an evaluation to determine his continued fitness for office after nearly a week of heightened tensions with Iran.

    The World Mental Health Coalition made the statement a month after warning Congress that the stress of impeachment could cause Mr Trump's mental state to deteriorate to a dangerous level.

    "We have been seriously warning about this for some time. The US Congress must act immediately and forcefully without further delay," the group said in a statement obtained by The Independent shortly after the president struggled to pronounce words and sniffed repeatedly while delivering a scripted statement on the Iran crisis at the White House.

    Mr Trump, they said, is "psychologically and mentally both dangerous and incapacitated" and has a presentation that is "consistent with a person
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mental-health-iran-attack-iraq-doctor-psychiatrist-a9275986.html
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Did these same blokes say the same of Obama and Hillary when the y assassinated Bin Laden?

Pt you get more strident, shrill and desperate.
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OBL was not a significant political power in a country with very powerful friends, who personally presides over hundreds of thousands of militia in a number of countries. He was hiding in Pakistan with his network in tatters and mostly overtaken by ISIS

Nobody cared about Al Baghdadi being killed a few months ago for exactly the same reason.
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Whas the action of a rogue state, based on what, a whim by the madman ?
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MBS sent his little brother to Washington to find out what is going on. He has been back and forth for several months, but this took the Kingdom by total surprise as it did Israel. Unintended consequences that they are terrified about.

Saudi Arabia says it was not consulted on Soleimani strike, urges calm

Kingdom, vulnerable to possible reprisal attacks after American drone strike targeting top Iranian general, reportedly sending prince to US, UK to plead for restraint

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Saudi Arabia was not consulted by Washington over a US drone strike that killed a top Iranian general, an official said Sunday, as the kingdom sought to defuse soaring regional tensions.

Saudi Arabia is vulnerable to possible Iranian reprisals after Tehran vowed “revenge” following the strike on Friday that killed powerful commander Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad.

“The kingdom of Saudi Arabia was not consulted regarding the US strike,” a Saudi official told AFP, requesting anonymity.more...

http://www.timesofisrael.com/saudi-arabia-says-it-was-not-consulted-on-soleimani-strike-urges-calm/

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What would Vlad liked to have happened?
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Wowsers, I thought PT blaming trump for the plane being shot down was kooky and extreme even for him, but now I see there's dems and loony lefties saying the same thing. Should have known it was too "unique" a thought.
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