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Majestic
Champion Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Location: NSW Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
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Posted: 21 Dec 2019 at 8:27pm |
I’m bored. Name stallions that have sired SW’s from 900 to 3200m plus.
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Grey Affair
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Umatilla? |
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Online Points: 45733 |
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Pass.
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Grey Affair
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Danehill? |
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Majestic
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Umatilla did indeed sire Streak, Sydney Cup 3200, but I don’t think he had a 900m SW.
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Grey Affair
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Umrum (Umatilla x Rhum Dancer) won the LR Fulham Park Plate over 900m. Edited by Gay3 - 22 Dec 2019 at 8:46am |
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Majestic
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Danehill is one of the most versatile, winners like Presumed Innocent at the minimum distance to Westerner at 4000m, although I don’t think he sire at 3200 m winner in Aust/NZ
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Majestic
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GA I am put in my place, thank you. 2 others I can name were very good sires, one in Vic, the other in NSW.
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Grey Affair
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Sovereign Slipper? |
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Grey Affair
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Actually, I was thinking of Westerner as a 3200m plus stakeswinner by Danehill but I believe Danestorm also fits the bill having won the Brisbane Cup over 3200m.
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Majestic
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GA, spot on Time Frame Perth Cup 3200 and King Zavata Maribyrnong Trial 900m, the latter trainer by Stetson wearing King of the Kids Cliff Fahler, a brilliant year Rainer of especially early 2yo’s in the 70’s and 80’s
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Majestic
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GA, again congrats for noting Danestorm, I though the Brisbane Cup was by then reduced to 2400m.
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Majestic
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Let’s try to think of a father/son sires. These two are/were though of as good sires of jumpers.
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Grey Affair
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Bletchingly?
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Majestic
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GA, spot on again. Can you guess father/son who also qualify?
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Majestic
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Bletchingly had Canny Lad and Tennessee Morn win at the minimum and the legendary Kingston a town at the max 3200
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Grey Affair
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Better Boy & Century? |
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Majestic
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Spot on. Better Boy is my all time favourite stallion. Stood at Curram Downs in Vic. Sired all types but started off slow. When Craftsman started winning, people took notice, then the rocket took off.
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Carioca
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I remember a trainer Majestic think his name was Bob Clarken ( or similar) bought 2 Better Boys from first crop , Bettermil and Bettertip, both showed promise from the outset ,always remember him riderless in the Caulfield Cup.
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Grey Affair
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I have to agree. Better Boy was a wonderful stallion & one of the most versatile Australia has seen. Sprinters, milers, stayers ... he got the lot! His daughter, Cap d'Antibes was a favourite of mine when first started going to the races. |
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djebel
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Luskin Star
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reductio ad absurdum
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VSP.
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Danestorm won the Brisbane Cup at 3200m, Group one in 2004. it was not reduced in distance or status until Newport won the 2400m Gr 2 Cup in 2007. |
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VSP.
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Showdown sired winners from 804m to 3200m,
Dual Choice winning the 4 furlong Debutante, & Rose of St George & Irish Peace winning the Debutante at 900m.
Love Bandit - Brisbane Cup G1 3200m. |
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VSP.
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He got Flying Luskin - G1 @ 3200m but I cant find the 900m winner djebel? Lover won the Debutante in '81 but it was 1000m, & Musical Chairs won the Mona Nursery over 1000m.
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John H
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Red Gauntlet sired the 1970 Silver Slipper winner (over abt 900m) Regal Gauntlet & the 3200m stakes winners The Monk & Gunderman.
NZ-based Bourbon Prince sired Silver Slipper winner Gaelic Spirit & Duke of Norfolk winner Carlos. Comic Court won the Fulham Park Plate over 4f & also the Cup over 16f! |
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Carioca
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Great work John H, much appreciated.
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VSP.
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If we are adding in racehorses spare a place for Malua - he won the Oakleigh Plate / Newmarket double, later that year adding a Melbourne Cup win followed 2 days later by a 6f (1200m) WFA stakes win on Oaks Day. He later went on to win a Grand National Hurdle, before retiring to stud and siring a Melbourne Cup winner himself in Malvolio. What an incredible horse he must have been.
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acacia alba
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What was his connection to Tassie ? Born/bred or owned there ?
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animals before people.
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VSP.
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Malua was bred in Tasmania and started his race career there under another name initially, before being sold to the mainland and having the name change.
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acacia alba
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Thanks VSP. I recall seeing his statue there , somewhere up Lonny way I think, but could not for the life of me remember what the connection was.
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animals before people.
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