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He was being a little tricky though(incredible, I know) in that he said the current cohort of fire officials ''assured me'' (room to blame fire officials)and that you can take great pride in their meticulous preparation.

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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Well we are heading in the right direction Marble re your suggestion , but tell me have young ever heard how the indigenous people done " circle burning" for undergrowth, it's interesting .

I just read about from AA's post - very interesting and definitely needs to be looked at. Looks like timing, soil type and lots of other things need to be considered when doing it
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Should read the article stayer posted in 2020 predictions. That the climate denial lie will crumble in 2020. I think this catastrophic fire season here and the last 3 in California could be a catalyst for that change.

Lol you mean that "deniers" will be bullied and shamed out of existence, ostracised by their own families etc. That's the first lovely point in that loony article. I recommend people reading it to see the level of fanaticism behind all this BS.
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Another modelling expert stayer?
Zelko and Walshy (Benter etc.) think they are useless too. 😁
I think they usually just use a pin and a bible to find their winners.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Morrison is a climate change neophyte, he said the link between climate change is real Doc.

What are your thoughts on Morrison's new position?

I think it's silly - the media and the left wing nutters and Climate Liars will just keep on lying and vilifying him, and won't vote for him ... will you?

I actually agree - there is a notional link between Climate Change and the size and ferocity of Bush Fires ... but it doesn't cause them. 

Beneficial Global Warming has resulted in a 25% increase in the greening of the planet ... so much more fuel on the ground in the risk areas that the Green Environmentalists are "protecting" ... it's a global phenomenon in fact, and unless there is a Global response to fuel reduction, there will be more and bigger fires globally ... regardless of the temperature.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Should read the article stayer posted in 2020 predictions. That the climate denial lie will crumble in 2020. I think this catastrophic fire season here and the last 3 in California could be a catalyst for that change.

Lol you mean that "deniers" will be bullied and shamed out of existence, ostracised by their own families etc. That's the first lovely point in that loony article. I recommend people reading it to see the level of fanaticism behind all this BS.

Greta and the Skool Kid Climate Strykers have a definite "smell" about them stayer ... blood and ash?Ouch

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Godwins Law. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Well we are heading in the right direction Marble re your suggestion , but tell me have young ever heard how the indigenous people done " circle burning" for undergrowth, it's interesting .

I just read about from AA's post - very interesting and definitely needs to be looked at. Looks like timing, soil type and lots of other things need to be considered when doing it

I call Bullgelati! ... you did not read something marble ... I've been posting this stuff for months you dope.Wacko
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Godwins Law. Embarrassed

The standard response when the latest form of zealotry gets caught out ... how's that Socialism going?Dead
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

California are facing their 4th straight year of worse conditions than the previous year.

30 years of the greens "protecting" forests and "inadequate fuel reduction" isn't fixed by one fire PT ...Smile
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Should read the article stayer posted in 2020 predictions. That the climate denial lie will crumble in 2020. I think this catastrophic fire season here and the last 3 in California could be a catalyst for that change.

Lol you mean that "deniers" will be bullied and shamed out of existence, ostracised by their own families etc. That's the first lovely point in that loony article. I recommend people reading it to see the level of fanaticism behind all this BS.

Interesting how all the rightards have latched on to the word denier, it has taken off like "wildfire" 

And of course that unoriginal rightard, dullard Stayer joins in LOL

News for you guys, post the word as often as you like, it still applies to you all Wink
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Can anyone answer the question as to why 100 plus years ago when we had exactly the same weather conditions , long bad drought and heat waves, their bush fires didn’t develop into mega fires ?
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Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Can anyone answer the question as to why 100 plus years ago when we had exactly the same weather conditions , long bad drought and heat waves, their bush fires didn’t develop into mega fires ?


Who says it didn't?
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Denying what Whale? 

... it's just a deflection by the "Useful Idiots" who blindly believe the latest religion without question ... it takes a level of courage, commitment and intelligence to be a "skeptic" and ask questions in the face of hateful vitriol from the lazy indoctrinated zealots Whale.Wink

There really are no "deniers" when it comes to Climate Change, because the climate has always changed ... just people who would like the liars to prove some of their bullgelati theories that keep falling apart in front of them ... just a few would help!Smile
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Can anyone answer the question as to why 100 plus years ago when we had exactly the same weather conditions , long bad drought and heat waves, their bush fires didn’t develop into mega fires ?


Who says it didn't?

Fuel reduction was adequate because nobody cared about ignorantly "protecting" the bush?
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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A few reasons.

The squatters land management was abysmal. Massive clear felling led directly to massive erosion and the massive dust storms.

The plague proportion rabbits ring barked many of the remaining trees and shrubs.

You dinosaurs would love a return to the land management practices of the 1890s.
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I would like it returned to the 1770's thanks!Thumbs Up

So many benefits it is just crazy to ignore!

A safe environment and meaningful indigenous employment opportunities are just too obvious for those busy living the Climate Lie ...Unhappy
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Yes I’d like to return our bush to the way we European’s found it. And there weren’t any squatters in the Hawkesbury and always a lot of bush . They used to let the stock into the rough country in times of drought .
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Morrison is a climate change neophyte, he said the link between climate change is real Doc.

What are your thoughts on Morrison's new position?


I think it's silly - the media and the left wing nutters and Climate Liars will just keep on lying and vilifying him, and won't vote for him ... will you?

I actually agree - there is a notional link between Climate Change and the size and ferocity of Bush Fires ... but it doesn't cause them. 

Beneficial Global Warming has resulted in a 25% increase in the greening of the planet ... so much more fuel on the ground in the risk areas that the Green Environmentalists are "protecting" ... it's a global phenomenon in fact, and unless there is a Global response to fuel reduction, there will be more and bigger fires globally ... regardless of the temperature.


Hey shouty, we have not been able to get a fire permit in our area of Qld since August and some areas were under total fire ban before that due to the hot and dry conditions. August is traditionally the month for controlled burns jusy prior to (hopefully) spring rains that bring new grass growth.

How do you propose we go about the controlled burn offs when the window to perform them is shrinking?
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Morrison is a climate change neophyte, he said the link between climate change is real Doc.

What are your thoughts on Morrison's new position?


I think it's silly - the media and the left wing nutters and Climate Liars will just keep on lying and vilifying him, and won't vote for him ... will you?

I actually agree - there is a notional link between Climate Change and the size and ferocity of Bush Fires ... but it doesn't cause them. 

Beneficial Global Warming has resulted in a 25% increase in the greening of the planet ... so much more fuel on the ground in the risk areas that the Green Environmentalists are "protecting" ... it's a global phenomenon in fact, and unless there is a Global response to fuel reduction, there will be more and bigger fires globally ... regardless of the temperature.


Hey shouty, we have not been able to get a fire permit in our area of Qld since August and some areas were under total fire ban before that due to the hot and dry conditions. August is traditionally the month for controlled burns jusy prior to (hopefully) spring rains that bring new grass growth.

How do you propose we go about the controlled burn offs when the window to perform them is shrinking?

What about the other areas, who stopped the permits ?
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Morrison is a climate change neophyte, he said the link between climate change is real Doc.

What are your thoughts on Morrison's new position?


I think it's silly - the media and the left wing nutters and Climate Liars will just keep on lying and vilifying him, and won't vote for him ... will you?

I actually agree - there is a notional link between Climate Change and the size and ferocity of Bush Fires ... but it doesn't cause them. 

Beneficial Global Warming has resulted in a 25% increase in the greening of the planet ... so much more fuel on the ground in the risk areas that the Green Environmentalists are "protecting" ... it's a global phenomenon in fact, and unless there is a Global response to fuel reduction, there will be more and bigger fires globally ... regardless of the temperature.


Hey shouty, we have not been able to get a fire permit in our area of Qld since August and some areas were under total fire ban before that due to the hot and dry conditions. August is traditionally the month for controlled burns jusy prior to (hopefully) spring rains that bring new grass growth.

How do you propose we go about the controlled burn offs when the window to perform them is shrinking?

Hey dopey, I wouldn't normally recommend this, but in your case, have you considered using petrol?Wink

Seriously though, you just confirm everything that I say ... you are another typical victim of "Green Tape" - the ALP/Green policies set up years ago to "protect" the bush ... I'm sure you will find that they will be lenient on anyone who does unauthorised clearing now, so just do it, make sure it's is a low wind day, the temperature is not the issue ... the window is not getting shorter by the way - that is the green climate liars favourite excuse - it's a cycle. 

... or do nothing, and wait your turn for a "CATASTROPHIC!!! RRRREEEEEEEE!!!" fire to come through because of - one more time for the mini mes - INADEQUATE FUEL REDUCTION.Shocked

It's very simple, even you should be able to figure it out. Big smile
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This is interesting From a Fire and Rescue person posted to a Canberra message board.
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This cant be right.

"I received an email from the US Forestry Service confirming that the Australian Govt has NOT asked to use their firefighting planes. They have 8 C-130 Hercules firefighting planes that are kept on 24 hour standby in the USA.

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I guess that hiring those water bombers would have blown a big hole in the fake surplus so, considering climate change is fake news we should just save that $20 million odd.
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Why do we need water bombers? 

These are the best fuel reduction burns we have had in 30+ years ... wasn't that the Greenies' intention?Thumbs Up

... and yes there is a difference between "Fuel Reduction" and Back" Burns ... just like there is a difference between Greenie "Dick" Heads and Greenie "Fcuk" Wits ... oh wait, no there's not ... it's just pedantics.
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Dont worry Doc before this thing is over actual quiet Australians like real fire services will put you deniers in your place. Not that it will make any difference to you.

See old mate Craig Kelly's train-wreck interview on Good Morning Britain this morning when he was ripped tp shreds?

They referred to him as a senior govt politician. Today actual govt members were fighting for microphones to disown him calling him a mere back bencher climate denier who does not represent the govt's views.

Funny how at the slightest bit of bother Libs start eating their young and competing for telling lies to save themselves.


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Isn't Kelly the chair of the coal lovers caucus in the Coalition? Something like that. That's a senior position.
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I think Kelly did a pretty fair job in that interview. I mean it was a stitch up job - any dope could see that Confused
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The presumption in your question is that not enough was done to prevent the fires, is that correct?

David Littleproud said yesterday that more than enough was done. I can do no more than defer to our government.

PT, read your post from 11-28am, the prolonged drought 2018/2019 hindered their cleanup, I just asked Why.
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