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    Posted: 08 Oct 2019 at 1:17pm
Well the bidding has started on the 25% Mustajeer share - how high do we reckon it will go?

Sitting at $250k for now.

I'll take a guess at $600,000. Anyone else?
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I wouldn’t be shocked to see it go for close to the magic million.

My estimated value would be around 650-700k though
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I'll go 500 000
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As an investor, I would say $300k at best... That's a $1.2m valuation for a 6/7yo gelding that finds maybe three suitable races in this country, in the next 12 months.

Hong Kong, Japan, Dubai & going back to Europe wouldn't be a factor for me. 
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I doubt that the return will be the motivating factor in the share sale. If you are wealthy, and it's on your bucket list to have a Cup runner with a chance this is it!
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Personally if I was an investor (who had some knowledge of form) with limitless funds, I'd probably only go to $50,000 because I don't see him as a genuine winning chance and even if I did then I could back him for $50,000 and get the same if not more than my share of the prizemoney at 25% ownership. My guess of $500,000 is based on what I think Fiorente cost to purchase (2mil if I'm not mistaken-even though this horse is nowhere near his level.)

For $500,000 I could probably buy 25% of one of the 2 favourites except that Finche is owned by rich people so that would rule him out. But If I had true racing knowledge and was an owner of Surprise Baby, and was a 'battler' I am pretty sure that I would accept $500,000 for a 25% share.
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My bid - $300,000

MUSTAJEER (GB)
Bay gelding     Foaled 2013 
 

MEDICEAN MachiavellianMr. ProspectorRaise a Native
Coup de FolieHalo
Mystic GoddessStorm BirdNorthern Dancer
Rose GoddessSassafras
QELAAN
    2006
DynaformerRobertoHail to Reason
Andover WayHis Majesty
IrtahalSwainNashwan
ElhasnaDanzig

MEDICEAN (GB) (Chestnut 1997-Stud 2002). 6 wins at 1m, 1¼m, Sandown Eclipse S., Gr.1. Sire of 889 rnrs, 573 wnrs, 48 SW, inc. Nannina (Newmarket Fillies Mile, Gr.1), Siyouma, Al Shemali, Dutch Art, Neatico, Bayrir, Almerita, Capponi, Sapphire, Bankable, Dimension, Manieree, Medici Code, Mince, Nordico, Casaca, Love Academy, Yakaba, Panama Hat, Regal Realm, Via Medici, Etoile Nocturne, Abigail Pett, Namos, Regional Counsel, Mr Medici, Chevron, etc.

 

1st dam

QELAAN, by Dynaformer. 2 wins at 11½f, 1½m, 2d Goodwood Butlins Bognor Regis H. Dam of 5 foals, all raced, 4 winners, inc:-

MUSTAJEER (g by Medicean) 4 wins. See below.

Makruma (f by Dubawi (Ire)) Joint Champion Older Female in Qatar in 2015. 2 wins at 1600m, 2000m in Qatar, Qatar International Cup, Qatar Doha Thoroughbred Oaks, 2d Clairefontaine Prix Luth Enchantee, L, 3d Longchamp Prix de Montretout, L, 4th Chantilly Prix Maurice Zilber, L.

 Tansfeeq (g by Aqlaam) 2 wins at 1300m, 1400m in Germany and Holland, 3d Goodwood Irish Stallion Farms 2YO S.

 Anba'a (c by Byron) Winner at 1600m in Saudi Arabia.

 

2nd dam

Irtahal, by Swain. Winner at 1m, Ascot Owen Brown S., 2d Newmarket Thetford S., 3d York Musidora S., Gr.3, 4th Goodwood Conqueror S., L. Half-sister to KARIS MAKAWNATIONHOOD,  Shea d'Lady (dam of KATHRYN THE WISE). Dam of 5 named foals, all raced, 4 winners, inc:-

 Nasaq2 wins at 1400m, Longchamp Prix du Musee d'Orsay, 3d Longchamp Prix des Celestins, Deauville Prix de Medavy.

 Qelaan2 wins. See above.

 Irtidaa5 wins from 1400m to 1600m in Croatia and Hungary.

 Fooladha4 wins from 1300m to 1600m in France.

 

3rd dam

ELHASNA, by Danzig. Winner at 6f in GB. Sister to DAYJUR, blood-sister to Bugatti Reef, three-quarter-sister to IRON MASKSweet Travel, half-sister to MAPLEJINSKY (dam of SKY BEAUTY). Dam of 11 foals, 9 to race, 8 winners, inc:-

NATIONHOOD (c Cherokee Run) 8 wins from 5½f to 1m, Emerald Downs Seattle H., L, Emerald H., L, Turf Paradise Coyote H., Zip Pocket S., 2d Turf Paradise Caballos del Sol S., L, Hank Mills Sr H., L, 4th Emerald Downs Fox Sports Network H., L, Turf Paradise Swift S., L. Sire.

KARIS MAKAW (f Charismatic) 5 wins from 5f to 8½f, Emerald Downs Boeing H., L, King County H., L, 2d Emerald Downs Washington Oaks, L, Emerald Distaff H., L-twice, Hastings Park H., L, Kent H., L, 3d Emerald Downs Washington State Legislators H., L. Producer.

Irtahal (f Swain) Winner. See above.

 Shea d'Lady3 wins-1 at 2-to 6f, Aqueduct Allowance. Dam of 3 winners-

KATHRYN THE WISE (f Uncle Mo) 5 wins from 6f to 1m, US$375,250, to 2019, Belmont Critical Eye S., L-twice, Aqueduct La Verdad S., L, Allowance.

 

4th dam

GOLD BEAUTY, by Mr. Prospector. Champion sprinter in USA in 1982. 8 wins, US$251,901, Saratoga Test S., Gr.2, Belmont Fall Highweight H., Gr.2, True North H., Gr.3, Monmouth Regret H., L, Keystone Rushland S., L, Spring Valley H., L, 2d Aqueduct Vosburgh H., Gr.1, Belmont Boojum H., L, 3d Suffolk Downs Sprint H., Gr.3. Half-sister to THE PRIME MINISTERMAJESTIC VENTUREMIRALOMASTORM BEAUTY (dam of BUFFUMSTORMY WEST), Felix the CatGreen KnightHello Beauty,  Raise a Beauty (dam of IRON MASK),  Misconduct (dam of CAT CHARMER),  Poster Beauty (dam of AILLEACHT). Dam of 5 foals, 4 to race, 3 winners, inc:-

DAYJUR (c Danzig) English & French Horse of the Year in 1990. Champion sprinter in Europe in 1990. Head of The 1990 European 3YO Classification. 7 wins-1 at 2-at 1000m, 1200m, £252,254, 75,027fr., US$225,000, York Nunthorpe S., Gr.1, 1000m-in track record time, Haydock Sprint Cup, Gr.1, Prix de l'Abbaye de Longchamp, Gr.1, Royal Ascot King's Stand S., Gr.2, Sandown Temple S., Gr.2, 2d Breeders' Cup Sprint S., Gr.1, Newbury Rose Bowl S., L. Sire.

MAPLEJINSKY (f Nijinsky) 5 wins from 6f to 1¼m, US$293,196, Saratoga Alabama S., Gr.1, Monmouth Oaks, Gr.1, Belmont Allowance, 4th Belmont Gazelle H., Gr.1. Dam of 5 winners-

SKY BEAUTY (f Blushing Groom) Champion Older Mare in USA in 1994. 15 wins-4 at 2-from 5f to 1¼m, US$1,336,000, Belmont Matron S., Gr.1, Acorn S., Gr.1, Mother Goose S., Gr.1, Shuvee H., Gr.1, Hempstead H., Gr.1, Ruffian H., Gr.1, Saratoga Go for Wand S., Gr.1, Alabama S., Gr.1, Coaching Club American Oaks, Gr.1, 2d Belmont Shuvee H., Gr.1, 3d Belmont Hempstead H., Gr.1, Saratoga Spinaway S., Gr.1. Dam of 5 winners-

HURRICANE CAT (c Storm Cat) 2 wins at 2, Newbury Horris Hill S., Gr.3, 3d Curragh Tetrarch S., Gr.3, Tipperary Concorde S., Gr.3. Sire.

 Desert TigressWinner at 2, 4th Leopardstown Silver Flash S., L. Dam of 3 winners-

GROWL (g Oasis Dream) 5 wins-1 at 2-at 6f, £388,007, to 2019, Doncaster Wentworth S., L, 2d Ascot British Champions Sprint S., Gr.1.

 Smoke Ring. Unraced. Dam of 2 winners-

KARIEGA (f Kingda Ka) 2 wins-1 at 2-at 1200m, 1600m to 2019 in India, Mumbai Breeders' Juvenile Fillies' Championship, L.

 Storming BeautyWinner at 9f in U.S.A. Dam of 2 winners-

 Violent BeautyWinner at 6f in U.S.A. Dam of 3 winners-

VIOLENCE (c Medaglia d'Oro) 3 wins at 2, US$623,000, Hollywood Futurity, Gr.1, Aqueduct Nashua S., Gr.2, 2d Gulfstream Park Fountain of Youth S., Gr.2. Sire.

 Sky Legend. Unraced. Dam of 4 winners-

 Belle Jour. Unplaced. Dam of-

QUASAR (c Seeking the Dia) Horse of the Year in India in 2015. Champion Older Male in India in 2016. 16 wins from 1600m to 2800m in India, Pune Derby, L, Mumbai Indian Turf Invitation Cup, L.

 Crimson Maple2 wins at 6f, 8½f in U.S.A. Dam of 2 winners-

GOLDWOOD (f Medaglia d'Oro) 9 wins at 5f, 5½f, US$390,130, to 2019, Monmouth Unbridled Elaine S., L, 3d Parx Racing Turf Amazon S., L.

 Million Gift. Raced twice. Dam of 4 winners-

MILLION SELLER (f A.P. Indy) 4 wins from 1m to 9f, Delaware Park Rosenna S., L. Producer.

 Sunday Affair. Unraced. Dam of 3 winners-

YORKTON (c Speightstown) 6 wins-1 at 2-from 6f to 1m, US$471,307, to 2019, Woodbine Bold Venture S., Gr.3-twice, 2d Woodbine Nearctic S., Gr.2, Vigil S., Gr.3, 3d Woodbine Woodstock S., L.

 Silence Beauty. Unraced. Dam of 4 winners-

TALE OF EKATI (c Tale of the Cat) 5 wins-2 at 2-from 5½f to 9f, US$1,182,992, Aqueduct Wood Memorial S., Gr.1, Cigar Mile H., Gr.1, Belmont Futurity S., Gr.2, Jerome H., Gr.2, 2d Saratoga Sanford S., Gr.2, 4th Churchill Downs Kentucky Derby, Gr.1, Breeders' Cup Juvenile, Gr.1, Saratoga Jim Dandy S., Gr.2, Gulfstream Park Richter Scale Sprint Championship S., Gr.2. Sire.

TALE OF SILENCE (c Tale of the Cat) 3 wins-1 at 2-at 6f, 1m, US$494,282, Belmont Westchester S., Gr.3, 2d Gulfstream Park S., Gr.2, Belmont Dwyer S., Gr.3, 3d Gulfstream Park Fred W Hooper S., Gr.3.

 Our Country Place. Unraced. Dam of 3 winners-

PLEASANT HOME (f Seeking the Gold) 5 wins from 7½f to 9f, US$1,378,070, Breeders' Cup Distaff, Gr.1, Aqueduct Bed o' Roses H., Gr.3, Belmont Allowance, Gulfstream Park Allowance, 2d Keeneland Spinster S., Gr.1, Saratoga Ballerina S., Gr.1, 4th Pimlico Distaff H., Gr.3. Dam of 6 winners-

 Magical WorldWinner at 8½f in U.S.A. Dam of 3 winners-

GUARANA (f Ghostzapper) 3 wins from 6½f to 9f, US$897,400, in 2019, Saratoga Coaching Club American Oaks, Gr.1, Belmont Acorn S., Gr.1, 2d Parx Racing Cotillion S., Gr.1.

MAGIC DANCE (f More Than Ready) 2 wins at 2 in 2019, Churchill Downs Debutante S., L, 3d Saratoga Adirondack S., Gr.2.

COUNTRY HIDEAWAY (f Seeking the Gold) 10 wins from 6f to 1m, US$762,568, Aqueduct First Flight H., Gr.2-twice, Bed o' Roses H., Gr.3, Belmont Vagrancy H., Gr.3, 2d Saratoga Ballerina H., Gr.1-twice, Aqueduct Top Flight H., Gr.2, 3d Belmont Ruffian H., Gr.1, Shuvee H., Gr.2, Aqueduct Distaff H., Gr.2. Dam of 4 winners-

BOCA GRANDE (f A.P. Indy) 4 wins-2 at 2-at 1m, 9f, US$515,570, Aqueduct Comely S., Gr.2, Demoiselle S., Gr.2, 2d Saratoga Test S., Gr.1, Hoosier Park Indiana Oaks, L, Belmont Vivano S., L, 3d Belmont Mother Goose S., Gr.1, Aqueduct Top Flight H., Gr.2, 4th Belmont Acorn S., Gr.1. Producer.

VACATION (c Dynaformer) 4 wins at 1m, 8½f, US$340,019, Arlington Park Hanshin Cup, Gr.3, 2d Saratoga Saranac S., Gr.3, 3d Woodbine Dominion Day H., Gr.3, Seagram Cup, Gr.3. Sire.

 Matlacha Pass2 wins-1 at 2-at 7f in U.S.A. Dam of 7 winners-

POINT OF ENTRY (c Dynaformer) 9 wins from 9f to 1½m, US$2,494,490, Belmont Man o' War S., Gr.1, Joe Hirsch Turf Classic S., Gr.1, Manhattan H., Gr.1, Saratoga Sword Dancer Invitational S., Gr.1, Gulfstream Park Turf H., Gr.1, Keeneland Elkhorn S., Gr.2, Allowance, Gulfstream Park Allowance, 2d Breeders' Cup Turf, Gr.1, 4th Breeders' Cup Turf, Gr.1, Saratoga Curlin S., L. Sire.

PINE ISLAND (f Arch) 4 wins from 8½f to 1¼m, US$666,800, Saratoga Alabama S., Gr.1, Belmont Gazelle S., Gr.1, Allowance, 2d Belmont Coaching Club American Oaks, Gr.1, Mother Goose S., Gr.1.

Chili Cat (f Storm Cat) 2 wins at 6½f, 1m, Aqueduct Allowance, 3d Belmont A Wild Ride S., L. Dam of 5 winners-

CAT'S CLAW (f Dynaformer) 3 wins at 1¼m, 1½m, Saratoga Waya S., L, 4th Keeneland Dowager S., L. Producer.

 Home Sweet Home. Raced once. Dam of 5 winners-

BIRDIE BIRDIE (c Brian's Time) 6 wins-1 at 2-from 1400m to 1850m, 247,669,000¥, Tokyo Unicorn S., Gr.3, 2d Nakayama March S., Gr.3, 3d Tokyo February S., Gr.1, Kyoto Antares S., Gr.3. Sire.

 

Race Record: 19 Starts 4-3-3 £638,476, €112,525.
Won Naas Finale S., L (1m 3¾f), York Ebor H. (1m 5¾f), Newmarket NGK Spark Plugs 2YO Maiden S. (1m), Naas Www.Naasracecourse.com H. (1m 2f), 2nd Navan Vintage Crop S., Gr 3, Curragh Silver S., L, Newmarket Feilden S., L, 3rd Curragh Tattersalls Gold Cup, Gr 1, Naas Finale S., L, Chelmsford City Totepool Racing's Biggest Supporter S., 4th Naas Mooresbridge S., Gr 2, Roscommon Lenebane S., L


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A 25% share in Caulfield and Melbourne Cups prospect Mustajeer has sold to Richard Pegum for $320,000 through the Inglis Digital Online Sale platform.

Offered by Gaelic Bloodstock, Mustajeer - a last-start winner of the prestigious Ebor Handicap at York (pictured) - is currently rated $13 with TAB Fixed Odds for the Caulfield Cup and $18 for the Melbourne Cup.

The Kris Lees-trained stayer joins a number of high profile sales through the Inglis online platform in recent months including Manaya for $400,00 and Set Goals for $321,000.

Pegum said the opportunity to buy into a world-class stayer which is guaranteed a Caulfield Cup start in 10 days’ time was too good to refuse.

“To purchase an in-form horse for a big race this close to the race, it’s very exciting,’’ Pegum said.
“I’ve been able to buy many horses before but this is one of the most well credentialled imports I’ve ever bought.’’

Gaelic Bloodstock’s Phil Burns said: “Thanks to Inglis for getting the job done. The initiative, opportunity and professionalism involved in the entire process has been outstanding.

“It’s been a seamless process as a vendor and we’re absolutely delighted with the result.

“I’d like to wish the new owner all the best in this new investment. Mustajeer has provided us with so many amazing memories and I sincerely hope he can come out and win the two big Cups in Australia in coming weeks so they can enjoy the thrills we have enjoyed with him.’’

Inglis Digital Business Manager Nick Melmeth was thrilled with the outcome.

“This was new territory for thoroughbred sales in this part of the world, to be selling a quarter share in a genuine Caulfield and Melbourne Cups contender, in early October, online,’’ Melmeth said.

“The sale received significant international media coverage and I think that alerted a lot of people to it and as a result, there was widespread interest in the auction.

“Congratulations to Richard on the purchase and thank you to Phil Burns for entrusting Inglis Digital with the sale.

“We wish Richard and the existing connections all the best with Mustajeer in the Caulfield Cup and beyond
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Under what I thought! Good luck to him.
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Just missed.

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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Just missed.



Is he that good?

I'm not convinced but you're the overseas guru
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Hi there guys:
Just curious to see.looking back what do you guys make of his Ebor run.some people really liked it and some did not so much.your thoughts?.
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Good on him if he has the cash why not, great thing to be a part of.
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Originally posted by kavg kavg wrote:

Personally if I was an investor (who had some knowledge of form) with limitless funds, I'd probably only go to $50,000 because I don't see him as a genuine winning chance and even if I did then I could back him for $50,000 and get the same if not more than my share of the prizemoney at 25% ownership. My guess of $500,000 is based on what I think Fiorente cost to purchase (2mil if I'm not mistaken-even though this horse is nowhere near his level.)

For $500,000 I could probably buy 25% of one of the 2 favourites except that Finche is owned by rich people so that would rule him out. But If I had true racing knowledge and was an owner of Surprise Baby, and was a 'battler' I am pretty sure that I would accept $500,000 for a 25% share.


You couldn’t buy a hair on SB’s tail for $500k. They knocked back some ridiculous money even before last weekend.
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I did say that if they were battlers and/or had a knowledge of racing. After trainers and jockey percentages 25% of the MC 1st prize is around $900,000. If I owned SB I'd accept $500,000 now. Sure I'd own less of the horse but financially I'd be ahead on expected outcome. If I wanted to be in the same financial position I'd take $50,000 of the $500,000 and back him in the MC at $9. 
And I may have made a new friend in the new owner that i could race horses into the future with.

As for the $320,000, Pegum et al paid way overs as was expected. Especially when i heard this morning that he felt the race he was best suited to was the Caulfield Cup. 25% of the prizemoney of the CC after training and jockey is about $600,000. Even if he was to win the CC and MC double 25% of that prizemoney is 1.5mil which means he is taking $5 odds for the double. The horse is gelded and not getting any younger. Even though I was away when Ebor was run and haven't looked at European form in depth yet, my early impressions are that he is only an outsiders chance to win.
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You are completely missing the point kavg. To blokes like Richard Pegum the money doesn't matter whatsoever. It's the thrill of being involved in races like CC & MC. Same as Lloyd Williams, doesn't matter what the cost is, they just want to taste the victory if they can. Being a part of it is worth the price if you can afford it. Pegum certainly can.
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As my dad often said to me, if you’re in racing to make money, then you’re in the wrong sport. It’s about the love of horses and the thrill of being involved.

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Understand guys. But not much fun when you're an also ran. I may be proven wrong but I'm just saying that there may have been smarter purchases to be made.
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Best way to finish up with a million out of racing,....start with 10 mill.
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The horse is here, the horse is on the market and it is in the race, at this stage, anything can happen of course. You've got Oliver saying how well its going... as others have said, the cost is kind of irrelevant (within means of course) the thrill of having a live chance in the Melbourne Cup is priceless.

Personally, I cannot see the thrill of buying a chance 3 weeks out, and claiming it as your own, but I've never been in that position to do it, so what do I know....
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