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Only white supremacists carry guns apparently
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Fun fact: 99.9%(unscientific) of white supremacists say it isn't their fault their white supremacist friends' guns go off in supermarkets, churches,concerts, schools, theaters, night clubs.....
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Fun fact....Omar Mateen wasn't a white supremacist when he killed 49 innocent people in a night club in Orlando
Nut jobs come in all different colours and backgrounds |
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Are Americans more mentally ill than anyone else, or more affected by violent video games as Fox and Trump are blaming, or is it maybe something else?
PS now 250 mass shootings in America this year. |
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Says nobody.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Lots of white supremacists in that lot |
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Fun fact: Trump's own FBI Director giving testimony just a couple of weeks ago.
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Tlazolteotl
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As far as gun deaths go, most of the planet is a utopia compared to America, apart from El Salavador, the Congo, Honduras, those sort of places. We know what Trump would call those sort of places.
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Fun fact: They almost all used weapons that almost every country on the planet does not allow it's citizens to own.
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Keep believing the MSM, these people are all white supremacists and trump supporters apparently |
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No Utopia but with zero mass shootings in over 20 years against 250 this year alone, I dont need my AK-47 or AR 15 when I go out for milk. |
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Tlazolteotl
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Seems odd and very fortunate that there were multiple police shooting the Dayton shooter within 30 seconds. They must have been tailing him before he started.
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They said there were public events which had more police on the streets and a car was right on site when it was called in, so it took only 30 sec to respond. Even with such a response time the type of weapon and quantity of ammunition he had, he killed 9 and shot dozens more.
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Trump saying racists, Nationalists and White Supremacists are mentally ill
“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger”: Trump yesterdayTrump says US must condemn 'white supremacy' and 'racism' in wake of weekend shootings- Trump today |
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The USA with it's large population , were very early in mistaking anti psychotic medications as a cure , rather than a management advancement in Psychiatric care.
All too quick to "open the doors of containment & monitoring systems ". That were a much more reliable approach. Gradually spreading world wide and has only become worse, for the reason that today's Science has never really known any difference. Strict gun laws weren't necessary , before Governments decided to discharge to the Community , The very Madness that it takes to commit these horror crimes. To suggest reverting to the very successful approach of years ago, is met with a reminder that detaining & monitoring dangerous Madmen was cruel. These murderous sprees of slaughter we now have regularly , are much more cruel in my view. Besides , Psychiatrists , Psychologists etc have a vested interest in protecting their so called advancement in the management of the Mentally ill . Send them to live next door to people in the less fortunate areas. |
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I, like all other civilised and decent people, continue to feel outraged and angry at recent events in America. Yes, this page is usually about horse racing, however I run this page and I decide what I post. Organisations frequently take a moral stance against things that outrage them. Talking about atrocities is one part of tackling the problem. If you don't like my thoughts then don't follow me because we can all agree that we have nothing in common. To those of you who posted replies to those individuals and their comments (which had plenty of decent people shaking their heads in despair) you have my thanks. If you can't see gun control is necessary after a right wing, white supremacist bigot SLAUGHTERED 22 innocent people, including a 6yo child, within minutes there is something wrong with you. Another 9 innocent people died in Ohio. These were real people with real families that were just out going about their business. These weapons, which were legally allowed to purchased and owned, enabled the slaughter. If you think it is ok that a person can legally own a weapon that is capable of such instantaneous carnage, I want nothing to do with you. The person responsible for the killings is an American born white man who has a set against immigrants and non-white people, and we all know who's driving this rhetoric. The rest of the world knows that gun control is a problem for America and so do many brave Americans who are actually trying to do something about it and who don't believe Trump and his bullgelati. Wherever you have his incendiary language and behaviour combined with so many guns in the hands of so many people your country is no longer safe. Australia did have increased mass shootings and post Port Arthur the government enacted sweeping changes. It has made Australia safer. Our schools do not have active shooter drills. My 4yo never practiced standing on the toilet to hide. We can go to concerts and public events without fear of being slaughtered. Trump is absolutely part of the problem and he's dangerous and he's taking America and by default the rest of the world down a dangerous path. As for Trump's tweets overnight give me a break. Every decent and intelligent person can see that organisations like OAN, Breitbart and Fox (I hope that some of you are watching Loudest Voice) are masquerading as media outlets when it reality they are propaganda outlets of the Far Right. There is video footage of Trump at a Florida Rally laughing when one of his zealot supporters shouted out "shoot them" shouted out when he said they are invading us, how do we stop them? Thank goodness that there are still large sections of the mainstream media who continue to do their job and report critically on Trump and his administration. I started my paid subscriptions to the New York Times and the Washington Post as a protest to Trump's attack on the decent and hard working mainstream media. Finally, to those of you who said "you're a horse racing photographer it's non of your business" Trump made it my business by calling the media "The Enemy of the People" because his continuing rhetoric puts all photographers and journalists at risk. As an accredited member of the media his rhetoric is my business. Replies from Americans: Laurie von See Thank
you, Bronwen, for posting your views. I have always admired your work
and strive to be able to show the beauty of horses with my photos as
well as you do. I know that you have spent time in America and know most
of us don’t share the racist beliefs of our president. We are sickened
and saddened by these murders. I’m afraid nothing will change until our
politicians get a spine and stop being owned by the NRA. Marie Klemens Dear Bronwen, thank you for speaking up. I agree with everything you’ve said. Maybe if more people had your courage, something would change. I’ve also been watching The Loudest Voice. What an eye opener! Sadly, I’m sure those that support Trump don’t watch, or if they did they’d just call it fake news. I’m from a small town in Illinois, USA and I am heartbroken. I no longer feel safe and fear for the future of my country if Trump wins another four years. Thank you again for saying what many fear to say. And thank you for the lovely horse photos. They always brighten my day. Judy Steinberg Our
current American climate is everyone’s business. If one cares about
others, what happens in one country, affects all of us. America is a
large country with a very large worldwide presence. We like to think
we’re all powerful even though I’d like to
think we’re all equal. I have looked down the barrel of a gun held by a
man out late at night doing his job as a robber. Believe me, it’s no
fun having someone take all of your freedom from you so easily. Being
helpless is a terrible feeling. The victims of these mass killings died
so quickly they may have never known what happened. Someone they didn’t
know took everything from them in an instant with a weapon of mass
destruction. Meanwhile here in America the debate rages on by idiots who
worship their false God, The Gun, in their House of Worship, the
Senate, reading from their Bible, the 2nd Amendment. This is our
collective sickness in my opinion. Worshipping a tool. Teri Barrach Thank
you, Bronwen. While I have no answer for this insane man and this
madness he encourages I appreciate that the world, and especially
Australia, stands with those of us who are outraged and sickened. We
are working towards ridding this country of this Nazi and his right arm
Mitch McConnell in the 2020 election. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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acacia alba
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Thing is, they can vote Trump out, but the next Pres wont ban guns because the gun lobby group are too powerful.
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animals before people.
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maccamax
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Did America & the World have this problem before Trump came along.?
Sounds like Bronwen may be a rusted on Democrat , exploiting the opportunity to express her Politics. |
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... and they only started shooting people when Trump was elected.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Trump said that Washington was broken and very swampy and only he could fix it. Waiting....
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Dr E
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So how many "whiteys" is that ... a few hundred? ... as opposed to only 10% of Muslims who support Radical Islamic Terror Attacks on infidels (anecdotally) ... so only about 180 Million people ... phew!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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Are they? You watch CNN and the Democrat "debates" ... from what I've seen, less than half of them are!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Tlazolteotl
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It's not as bad as the stats appear to be. 75% of American gun deaths are people shooting themselves. Half of the remainder is people of colour shooting each other. White folks is relatively safe from gun violence, iffin they don't shoot emselves.
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Dr E
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Wait a minute aa, that sounds too simple for the lefties! ... I thought Obama had fixed everything by being "presidential", and Trump ruined it by fixing the economy?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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racist. Seriously though, aa is right - the gun culture is too heavily entrenched in America and the NRA too politically powerful for them to ever agree to the controls that we have ... if Obama could do nothing about it, who will?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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It was reported this morning that there could be 15,000,000 to 20,000,000 US military-style assault rifles and similar weapons in civilian ownership in the USA. If that is correct, it's hard not to imagine mass shootings will not continue in the USA.
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Not guns Bob, mentally ill people and video games. Mario and Luigi will be banned immediately.
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Those double negatives blow me away. I am totally confused as to what it is you are not trying to say.
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Dr E
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He's saying "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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You mean racist white supremacists with guns killed lots of people?
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