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America needs to ban guns, end of story.
I, like many, supported their rights, the 2nd Amendment. But, it has to be eliminated. Americas requires a sweeping resolve, by first taking everyones guns. People such as Alex Jones, believes this leads to tyranny, ultimate power of dictators, etc What they leave out in that fantasy, is that Police will still have guns. The public must place faith in police. Whilst there are indeed cases of police brutality, if public place ultimate faith in them to be the only ones with guns, it can actually positively empower the police, in a good way. Police are there to PROTECT people, so it isnt even a total ban on guns, because police will still have them. The whole Second Amendment is total garbage. What right does some moron have to enter a shopping centre, a school, and just kill dozens of people. Their access to such opportunity, is far too easy. We can argue all day until the cows come home, that this is society having a mental breakdown, and we shouldnt blame guns. However as it stands, guns are the very weapon causing massacres, so we can indeed blame the tool of choice too. People like Alex Jones have to stop with the whole Tyranny fear mongering garbage, because there is REAL FEAR and a REAL TRUTH, guns are smashing innocent people to pieces. And THAT is the EXISTING Tyranny.
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But what about their well regulated militias without guns? Americans love a well regulated militia.
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And the dumbest argument of all: having guns, can shoot down people with guns.
Wow, really morons?? Where were all the "gun people" to shootdown todays shooter??? Epic fail. Guns arent banned, yet nobody shot the shooter.
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They won’t do anything.
American Government has no control |
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Blue wave next year will bring change.
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Just like Obama did?
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That is why it takes a wave. Obama didn't control Congress.
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I suspect the issue is more complex than the Democrats taking control of Congress, the Senate and the White House being enough to bring reform.
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Party has a lot to do with it. Total Contributions by Party of Recipient |
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2 major gun manufacturers Colt and Remington have filed for bankruptcy along with several large distributors over the last couple of years.
There is a paradox in America regarding guns where the gun industry needs Republicans in power to protect gun rights laws, but when Republicans are in power people stop buying guns, believing their rights are safer so no need to stockpile. With Hillary expected to be elected President in 2016, gun manufacturers and distributors stocked up bigly expecting the gun sales boom under Obama to continue. Trump was surprisingly elected and sales collapsed forcing many companies into insolvency.
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So shooting a bunch of babies at a Walmart might not be as profitable soon. |
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If Democrats win across the board next year it will be huge for gun sales but perilous for gun rights.
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It's as clear as day to the whole world except America as to what the problem is!
They will never ban guns - I have a bunch of Facebook friends in USA, mostly older retiree ladies (crazy cat ladies) and all of them firmly believe in the right to bear arms. Doesn't matter how many mass shootings there are - that just firms up their belief they need their own protection. It's crazy .......... but what else can you expect from a nation that elected an uncouth bully as their leader.
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Maybe all households should have the right to a Registered hand gun and heavily penalised if it is taken outside the house.
For use in home invasions / burglaries as a self defence. Everyone had a gun in OZ 70 years ago , no problems . Then they decided to house the criminally Insane in the community . We now pay the price for that brainless act. |
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but what else can you expect from a nation that elected an uncouth bully as their leader. We did the same, his name was Abbott |
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VSP, there is hope. The political grip the NRA has on the Republican Party and politics in general appears to be weakening under pressure and multiple criminal and counter intelligence investigations and infighting that has seen changes in leadership accompanied by litigation has exposed major cracks in what has been seen as an impregnable front. The Stoneman Douglas shooting last year with the worldwide reach of those kids who took up the cause of gun control manifest itself in the mid term elections half a dozen Democrats targeted strongly by the NRA influence machine getting elected anyway. One, the former Florida governor who had an A+ NRA rating and a record of record pro gun legislation for Florida changed his views after that school shooting and put restrictions in place. His term ended and he ran for Senate in November The NRA went after him and failed. It was seen as a significant shift.
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More thoughts and prayers required in Ohio now. Reporting 10 or more killed in a shooting incident there
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Dont worry, Alex Jones will be addressing the world in 5 minutes to say its a left loony paid by George Soros. |
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I also have quite a few friends in the States, and most of them are old ladies like me, and they too are all firmly for being allowed to carry a gun for protection. Like a small little hand gun stuffed in your hand bag is going to save you when some nutter starts shooting with a high powered rapid shot weapon ( that only armed forces should have, or need, access to ) in a shopping mall full of people.
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animals before people.
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Well geez, that worked well today.
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America and its huge fascination with guns, they will never ever get it
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Did Viktor ever give Soros his money back? PS the loony right are blaming video games. |
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Americans will never get rid of their guns, because most of the ones that have guns are paranoid. “There are terrorists and home invaders and drug cartels and carjackers
and knockout gamers and rapers, haters, campus killers, airport killers
… I ask you: do you trust the government to protect you? We are on our
own … The things we care about most are changing … It’s why more and
more Americans are buying firearms and ammunition.” Wayne LaPierre, Fear, baby, fear. Fear of each other, fear of the world, but above all, fear of democracy and their own government.
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Yes blame Trump of course, not one single shooting happened when Obama was in power
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People say its a culture problem.
Its a culture in decline. Its essentially a nation of naughty children, and naughty children need their toys confiscated until they grow up and prove themselves capable of playing with their toys properly. When the 2nd Amendment was written, it was written at a time when people werent running into a village or town and just mindlessly shooting innocent people for zero reason, on mass. Had Americas forefathers known this would happen, there is absolutely no way they would have written the 2nd Amendment.
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In his ''manifesto'' he specifically asked on the bottom of the 4th page to not blame Trump or certain Congressmen(presumably gun loving ones) yet quoted Trump and his Fox advisers many times through it, using the very same rhetoric. He never quoted Obama.
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Dont know if it is true or not but I read this morning Trump people are removing the Trump tweets that refer to ''invasion'' of which there are many, because the terrorist used that term so many times in his ''manifesto''
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Blame trump lol, once he is out of office in 4 more years, all the shootings will stop and everyone will live happily ever after
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