The Ashes 2019

ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Dr E wrote:

Baghdad Bob wrote:

A few comments in the press on "captain" Paine's review and overall the DRS<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;">

Australian captain Tim Paine’s failed gamble on a decision
review cost his team a certain victory in the most dramatic finish to a Test
match in recent memory.Paine reviewed a half-hearted shout from Pat Cummins that pitched outside
legside and then, with <st1:country-region w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region>
out of reviews, Nathan Lyon had a plumb shout turned down in yet another Joel
Wilson umpire error. The Lyon shout should’ve removed Stokes for 131, delivering <st1:country-region w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region> a
one-run Test victory. Paine said pre-game he had faith in <st1:city w:st="on">Wilson</st1:city> to bounce back, but he didn’t

re the lbw and the umpire - this is exactly what is wrong
with sporting organisations world wide in relation to officials, total lack of
accountability. this umpire makes 8 wrong decisions in the first test, he
should not have been sighted for the rest of the series. Instead he is
third umpire for the 2nd and gives a catch that most people would agree
bounced. the warning signs surely by now must be blaring, but no he still
gets to umpire the 3rd, makes a number more wrong calls and completely misses a
plumb lbw to decide the series. easy to be critical of the reviews used,
but no-one who is playing in these tests could have any faith in any of the
umpires, and that is when reviews are burnt unnecessarily. to have
umpires set in stone for the three first tests as they have had is a mistake,
and gives no flexibility to drop an under performing official,<o:p></o:p>

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DRS was brought in to avoid clangers. Yet because of the
review system, around five this got through this match. Take reviews out of
players hands. If the umpire thinks there is a chance of a wicket, he reviews
it. Removes all doubts. And for those who say the DRS isn’t perfect, its far
closer than Joel Wilson will ever be. Better to go with a technology system
that may go wrong, rather than a human system that is clearly wrong on too many
occasions.

Last night highlighted that the system is flawed - reviews are only limited to keep the game moving, ostensibly for the sake of the sponsors - therefor they don't guarantee the right result, which would have been an Australian win.

The same as the "bunker" in NRL - they only review the final play for a try, not the previous play where the referee stuffed up that led to the try.

Either use the technology or don't.

Every wicket decision should be reviewed as a matter of course. I mean, they review every time there is a close call on a boundary, what’s another few reviews a day? Only takes a short time anyway.

Every time someone given out = automatic review
Every time an appeal is given not out = let the fielding side have unlimited reviews. Most they probably won’t bother unless a close call.

Yep 100% - it's a slow game anyway, and the obvious ones take seconds to determine - fine them for frivolous reviews.

... it was incredible theater though!

Feel so sorry for The Goat - how must his heart rate have been in his last over!!! ... he really did look like a goat when he fumbled that run out ... then he should have won it with the next delivery - plumbest LBW ever - missing leg and off, hitting middle half way up!! Cry

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!

Three word summary:

England: Ben Stokes brilliant

Australia: stuffed up badly.

Maybe increase the number of appeals, but not every appeal. Maybe increase to 5 per innings.

They claim to review every goal in the AFL now ... there is time to do so, as there is in cricket ... and tennis.

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!

By automating the review process.

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Simon Cameron

Dr E wrote:

They claim to review every goal in the AFL now ... there is time to do so, as there is in cricket ... and tennis.

Exactly.
You could have one guy reviewing every ball for no balls. It takes 30 seconds for a bowler to get back to their mark. Plenty of time. The only ones that could take more are when there’s a faint nick and they are examining snicko. But even then there is plenty of time IMO.

Umpires have a tough job & should have the right to review their own line ball decisions .
What was the point last night, of not using their equipment at the very time it is needed.

Pointless crap & driving interest through the floor.

( Congratulations to the POMS . Best effort I've ever seen. ) We must give credit where it is due.

I’ve got zero trust in that Hawkeye technology.
Lyon was right arm around the wicket to a left handed bat. He was very wide in the crease. That angle makes it very hard to spin back to the stumps from that point of impact

If Australia had won this test would have been forgotten in a few years as just another close finish in a test, because England won and all the heroics associated with the win it will be remembered as long as the Ashes are played.

Now I am not a religious person. However, if i were i might see it as the big fella upstairs pulling the strings to ensure its close - just not close enough for us to win. I'm predicting the next 2 to finish in exactly the same fashion

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Tlazolteotl wrote:

It makes the rest of the series interesting.

It will also make it more satisfying to beat the Poms. Now they are at fever pitch excitement level, crush their spirits.

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Simon Cameron

I nearly had a stroke early this morning about 3am. Turned on the radio - couldn't sleep - and heard Geoff Lawson saying his inside mail was that Mitchell Marsh was going to be picked but not Mitchell Starc. Shocked

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Simon Cameron

Henry has issues.

Actually Marsh was under consideration. Looks like Starc will be 12th man with Siddle coming back in.

Marsh took 2/5 1/33 and scored 74 in the tour match last week.