PM Boris

Under the Fixed Term elections Act, the calling of an election allows a fixed term for campaigning of 6 weeks or less, so in this case the election would be timed to take place about 3 days before the PM goes to Europe to broker a new deal and 2 weeks before the exit date. Yesterday's vote to call an early election required a two thirds majority.

Boris tried to lie and play games to goad Labour into voting for election, knowing that Corbyn is considered virtually unelectable. Once he has the date of the election locked in he can apply for an extension taking a possible election out beyond the exit date. Labour and some Conservatives are a wake up though and voted down the election Bill.

Boris is now where May spent 2 years.

Voting to leave without a deal is the issue, Corbyn being an old leftie wouldn't be that keen to stay anyway.

It is all the uncertainties of no deal that has everyone concerned.

Remember the Republic Referendum here about 20 years ago when Tricky little rodent Howard devised a question designed to fail?

Cameron should have consulted him rather than just arrogantly believing British people wouldn't be stupid enough to do this and therefore made it a simple Yes/No vote.

Politically it would make no sense for Corbyn to grant an election. All new leaders have a honeymoon period, and Labour will have seen what happened to May’s popularity after a bit of time with the Brexit tar-baby. Delay Brexit, let everyone have a good look at Boris and hope the Tories keep tearing themselves apart.

Boris has the no confidence option forcing a new election. That is what Farage wants and Boris may have little power to resist if the no confidence gets up. No guarantee of that as everyone has zero trust in Boris.

Farage paraded 500 candidates last week and told Boris if Boris agrees to bust out with no deal he wont run candidates against Conservative members ensuring Boris wins and is a ''hero'' according to him. If Boris doesn't agree and strikes a deal, he will run all 500 candidates and wont support Boris, letting the cards fall where they may.

Farage also made a point of saying he was sitting in Trump's office when Boris prorogued.

JudgeHolden wrote:

Politically it would make no sense for Corbyn to grant an election. All new leaders have a honeymoon period, and Labour will have seen what happened to May’s popularity after a bit of time with the Brexit tar-baby. Delay Brexit, let everyone have a good look at Boris and hope the Tories keep tearing themselves apart.

All potentially true Judge - if the anti-semite hand wringers of Labour were stupid enough to acquiesce, they would be decimated in a popular vote against Farage and anyone who grabbed hold of his apron strings! The simple fact is that the citizens want Brexit, and they are over the brow beatings from the interfering elites. All of those wet conservatives who crossed the chamber - who are simply acting out of self interest, grasping at any extension of their political careers that they can - is all just confirmation of the worst fears of the citizens. The outcome of all of this when it does eventually come, will be the end of the Labour party in GB ... sanity will prevail, the "quiet poms" will run over them like a tidal wave at the next election - all of this faffing around is just delaying the inevitable.

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!

Passing Through wrote:

Voting to leave without a deal is the issue, Corbyn being an old leftie wouldn't be that keen to stay anyway.

It is all the uncertainties of no deal that has everyone concerned.

Holy cow. Has someone hijacked PTs account? That's actually an impartial summary!

Dr E wrote:

Tlazolteotl wrote:

Looks like Farage is the only one who has a plan and the backing of his party. Vote for Farage.

That's what the "quiet poms" are shouting from the rafters! Wink

Like the quiet Australians. Gotta luv 'em....

On The Drum they were asking who the quiet Australians are. Ask Labor. How pompous can you get.

I'm fairly certain that the silent Pommies would vote to Remain if they could have a do over. Especially the lazy youngsters who couldn't be bothered voting last time. In fact I think it would be a Remain landslide. But we will probably never know.

An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

Simon Cameron

Softy wrote:

I like the quiet aussies too Isaac.
Especially the ones who refrain from spreading their homophobia etc. on social media when explicitly asked not to by their employees.
Oh, my mistake, they’re not the quiet ones are they.

Weirdo alert!

Tlazolteotl wrote:

I'm fairly certain that the silent Pommies would vote to Remain if they could have a do over. Especially the lazy youngsters who couldn't be bothered voting last time. In fact I think it would be a Remain landslide. But we will probably never know.

So should we have a "do over" for every election/referendum where there was a cohort of "don't give a gelatis"? ... as much as you want to think otherwise, they STILL won't give a gelati.

You know that a minority of people voted YES for Gay Marriage ... should we try again and see if we can get that right? Wink

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!

Dr E wrote:

stayer wrote:

Softy wrote:

I like the quiet aussies too Isaac.
Especially the ones who refrain from spreading their homophobia etc. on social media when explicitly asked not to by their employees.
Oh, my mistake, they’re not the quiet ones are they.

Weirdo alert!

do you get the impression that "softy" is a reference to the mushie grey matter upstairs? Embarrassed

That's a bit judgemental doc.

Well I'm sure one will be along soon Doc.

Boris younger brother Jo, a conservative MP and cabinet minister under 3 PMs quit yesterday, saying he would put family before politics. He cannot support his brother on this.