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VSP.
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It's no ones business but yours and the donors Craig.
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Mayor
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I can't take up the generous offers from our members because some people object to me earning a little income from advertising (as paltry as it is) while at the same time taking donations for hosting fees. In this case, I am pretty much forced to decline offers of assistance. Thank you very much to those who have offered. It's much appreciated.
We are at 97% capacity now. I'll start removing some of the insignificant threads and see how we go. Mayor
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Sister Dot
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Can we have an edit/delete button too please?
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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SkyDancer
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Can we get rid of the quote button... some people (particularly those from WA) do not understand how annoying they are
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oneonesit
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"arguably" indeed !
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Progold
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How are you going with a decision Mayor? Remember the last time you upgraded? You were also concerned about losing the history but there wasn't much alternative. I am sure that you have never had use for revisiting many of those old posts, even though there was a lot of very good content among them. Arguably, much of it was of a lot higher quality than many of the current offerings. I am equally confident that if you want to keep everything, a small crowd funding exercise would allow the project to proceed.
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Carioca
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Me too .
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oneonesit
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& I will contribute $11
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Whale
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I will contribute $10, if you have Afterpay
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ExceedAndExcel
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Put up a PayPal account that we can donate to Mayor. I’m sure plenty of people will contribute such that nothing needs to deleted.
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Whale
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I don't understand the anger here, the Mayor asked for suggestions, much like a Hawke cabinet meeting, and will decide which way to go
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Second Chance
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Yes of course he can.
However if so why the hell is he asking for advice and then ignoring it, particularly when offers far exceed his outlay in maintaining the forums. ps in case someone came in late: "There have been offers from Big Al & Voyager to each cover a year of the full costs to keep the place going. That's two full years before anyone has to worry. Not quite sure why the Mayor is dismissing the offers?" pss and failing that, will he also ignore the suggestions that he simply archive Racing and Joffs posts three years or more old, and archive Tipping posts more than five minutes ago? |
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crooked_gambler
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It’s his forum he can do what he likes
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VSP.
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There have been offers from Big Al & Voyager to each cover a year of the full costs to keep the place going. Thats two full years before anyone has to worry. Not quite sure why the Mayor is dismissing the offers?
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Whale
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Can't see a problem with donations, people get it free now anyway. and it is a bit like taxpayers paying for Centrelink, hospitals, roads etc that non taxpayers use. Maybe those contributing can get a small reward, something like edit function
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Second Chance
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Am way against donations, if only because it allows free riders to continue without contributing.
Archiving Racing and Joffs threads more than three years old and Tipping one year old would surely free up tons of space.
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saintly96
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We could all donate 5 or 10 bucks. I am sure that would cover the cost mentioned.
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Mayor
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The deleting function will remove topics that haven't been posted in for say, a couple of years.
So, if you have an interest in a particular topic, but it hasn't been added to for over a year or so, please post something in the thread and it will remain in the database. Regards, Mayor
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Second Chance
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Well we all appreciate a bit of humor on here O. My randoms however came up with O, D, M and S.
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oneonesit
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How about this approach. For starters - randomly select 4 letters of the alphabet & just delete all posts in Joffs from posters whose name starts with one of those letters. To make it easy i have just done same - & pulled out the following letters from a bag full of letters - W, P, R & T . See how that goes.
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Second Chance
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Racing has the historical volume. Then Joffs followed by Tipping.
Suggest just rid all posts in Racing and Joffs older than say 3 years plus all Tipping more than a year oldand see how much space that frees up.
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maccamax
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I'd suggest "Old Posts " would be better , gone & forgotten anyway.
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Brudder_A
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Removing non-thoroughbred old posts would sanitize the forum and would regain some space - as well as focus... You will need to make a decision! |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Spot on |
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Mayor
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Nothing's changed other than the fact that the forum database has overgrown its current storage capacity. It can't continue to be housed on a shared server (it's at 96% capacity) and must transfer to a dedicated cloud-based server. The cost mentioned is for storage and efficient running of the full database on a dedicated server. The alternative is to reduce its size by deleting old posts. This is not my preference as personally, I access old posts from time to time, mainly to source information for articles. The TBV forums have always been free for members and there are absolutely no plans to introduce membership fees.
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Brudder_A
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If possible couldn't you do archival of post older than 5-7 years? Space would be freed up. An archival area that is cost efficient and accessible would be nice.
Thanks, I can do that quite easily, however to reduce the size of the file, the old posts would need to be removed from the database and not be accessible to the public anymore (although I have them on file). An archive wouldn't achieve that. Mayor Edited by Mayor - 20 Jul 2019 at 8:38am |
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VSP.
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Is this total cost to host the forum? Approx Aus$850 per year? Surely the advertising and betting commissions pay that easily? I seem to remember contributing that kind of money in the past for a year's running costs, so what has changed?
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Red Hare
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I guess you’ll have to weigh up the income from clicks v benefits of sterner moderation. |
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Mayor
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First thing, I'm going to backup the forum SQL database, so all the 1.5 million posts will be saved. Not sure exactly the best way to access individual posts in the backup file but at least I know it's possible in case something is needed. Then I'll look at the best way to remove old redundant threads.
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