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djebel
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Posted: 11 Jun 2019 at 1:44pm |
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VRC chair lashes NSW over prizemoney
By Nick Hluchaniuk about an hour ago |
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rusty nails
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So when everyone in Victoria band together to negotiate anything, it’s ok for VRC to forget about the common good, and do what’s best for themselves.
But an interstate competitor is forever barred from doing anything that doesn’t suit the VRC? Amanda would be better served getting advice from the “silly little man” rather than antagonising him. |
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Really they are supposed to be smart people? Do they not know if you have a 2 mile horse anywhere in the world! And there is a 2mile race with 5/6 million? YOU WILL be aiming at it!! An extra million or two is not going to make a scrap of difference. Amanda ? Money badly spent!!
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What a joke - a "National approach" to racing. Since when have the Vic's EVER done anything else other than to look after themselves. They would be all over this approach as long as their interests were the most important. Racing vision, 30 min gaps between races, running over the top of other races et al - why ? - because no one else's racing matters.
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Not related to Sum Ting Wong by any chance ?All those silly little man with silly little ideas !
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Afros
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This all started when Melbourne started expanding their autumn carnival to try compete with the Sydney autumn. At least Sydney are trying different things, rather than say, moving the Metrop to CC day and making it a $14 million race.
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Anyway . Amanda is a mouth peace for a dinasour. RVL is the biggest problem Victoria has. You just have to wonder who is driving the buss
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Discohips23
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Last year NSW coughed up 13mil for THE EVEREST, only to see Racing Victoria get a better field in the VRC SPRINT CLASSIC for 1Mil. I know who runs a more profitable ship!
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Red Hare
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NSW tipped in than half that amount into The Everest.
The slot holders put upmost of the purse. They also chose the field.
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rusty nails
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Everest day is the only day all year members can’t use vouchers for guests.
I don’t think they see it as a failure. At all |
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VOYAGER
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This lady is seriously suffering amnesia!
Her husband or former husband, was responsible for piling the money into the Cup in 1985 for the million dollar cup, which resulted in stayers from other states missing the metrop and other major spring events. And until the internationals started coming the only positive it did was boost the slipper money, if you call that a positive. I agree with what John O'shea said last week, the Melbourne spring has it all to themselves, no football, no cricket and no other major sports, to split the support, so why should NSW not try and boost their carnival, without encroaching on the series of staying races leading into the cup! |
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rusty nails
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Why does it seem that NSW is awash with money,whilst Victoria seems to be treading water?
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djebel
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I think Brian Kruger explains it as well as can be expected in this interview last week. |
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The Vics are right on this. Racing NSW have it all wrong Racing NSW's approach turns racing into boxing where you have 4 champs in each division and nobody cares anymore. Boxing was a big sport decades ago now it has almost vanished from the public consciousness. Stradbroke day worked well on Saturday as it was the standout meeting with all the best horses and jockeys in the one place. In contrast the last few years when Adelaide and Brisbane run big meetings on the same day in May you get 2 split meetings which both take away from each other as you have diluted G1 races at each meeting NSW and Victoria should not be holding big meetings on the same day to maximise the quality of your G1 races Racing NSW constantly raising the prizemoney levels will lead to disaster eventually. These prizemoney increases don't go to owners as yearling prices rise as the prizemoney goes up. So the money goes to the breeders instead and makes the rich even richer. By constantly making it more expensive to own a racehorse you are constantly shrinking your potential ownership base as you need to be ever more richer to own a racehorse. Racing NSW are making it a game for the elites only Racing will have to sell city racecourses to pay for these insane levels of prizemoney and that by itself will kill the game. Harness racing in NSW has gone backwards since they sold Harold Park and moved to Menangle. Harness racing is now zombie racing where they run for huge prizemoney with peanuts in the betting pools and nobody watching. Racing NSW risks sending the gallops down the same path with their current antics Racing Victoria solved their Weir problem at least temporarily. The racing has improved since Weir left. Racing NSW are yet to solve their Waller problem. On current trends in 2 years time half the races in Sydney will be made up of 50% or more Waller trained horses. Under Racing NSW Waller gets richer and richer while other trainers leave the game
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djebel
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I doubt there was a single group 1 class horse in Brisbane on the weekend.
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SHOVHOG
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Nsw racing is flying full stop!
Great crowds Huge fields Diversity of trainers in metropolitan races! The list goes on... |
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Baghdad Bob
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100% CORRECT
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Discohips23
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Bah ahaha ha, great crowds |
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👀"Silly little man". So says an old bag. No difference. Million dollar hypocrisy
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If none of those gallopers from the J.J.Atkins win a group 1 in the future I am the richest man in the world! |
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Tlazolteotl
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It will get worse in 2020 won't it when NSW racing finally gets the same deal from the TAB as Victoria has been getting for ages? Something like that. I'm not paying attention. Amanda Elliott from melbourne eh. Is she related to the only mellbourne Elliott I know of, boofhead John Elliott? Oh, ex-wife- it figures. You all know that of course but I only got interested in the subject 2 minutes ago.
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djebel
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Actually you got me there. I agree 100% I am very impressed with the first two and have not watched a replay to see if anything else was impressive.
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Even though he was beaten at the mile I do like Strasbourg and shadow Hero as well. His was a big run
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Baghdad Bob
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They could run the Melbourne Cup for prize money of $1 million and on the same day they could run a race at Randwick for $10 million and I know what race would attract the larger attendance and the most national and international attention....and it would not be the race at Alison Road Randwick
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rusty nails
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In the first year....
But if all the first division apart from the cup,are racing at Randwick, it greatly diminishes the day. Make no mistake, if it becomes a flame war, Sydney have nothing to lose, and can do immeasurable damage to Melbourne for only a limited benefit. |
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djebel
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Is racing at all concerned with attendance figures ?
I'd have thought it is 100% turnover related ? That is why they chase second class Japanese horses, to get a bite of the Japanese tote.
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Baghdad Bob
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VRC : 100,000 attending @ $73 per head, should help cover a small drop in turnover if AJC runs $10 million race on same day
AJC: not public holiday 25,000 @ $ 25 per head AJC ( PVL ) is kidding themselves , so is PVL. |
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rusty nails
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Admission fees are 5% of their turnover.
That’s not your saviour.... And AJC does not employ PVL. I don’t think they have any desire to diminish Melbourne Cup day, but other carnival days might be at risk. |
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Baghdad Bob
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TAB turnover is gross, the percentage take distributed to the club might be only 4.5% net of the turnover
Gate takings : $7.300,000 = Vic TAB held $170,000,000 in 2018 =4.5 % of $170,000,000 = $ 7,650,000 Not that much difference hey Rusty !!!
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rusty nails
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Look at VRC annual report for their annual figures
Total revenue $177M Public ticketing $7M (for the year) |
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"I think it's just a silly little man making silly decisions"The VRC chair said a 'single-minded determination to knock off Victoria' was the catalyst of the big-money races in NSW.VRC CHAIR AMANDA ELLIOTT
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