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Passing Through
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So what did the govt get that it didn't have before? Labor campaigned on the first two parts of the tax cut and we are getting the first 2 parts of the tax cut?
I know you feckless mob will grab anything you can to claim a victory but they got what Labor ran on.
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Passing Through
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PS, they could have had it without selling their black souls to Jacqui Lambie had they not been so desperate to try to wedge Albo and Labor. #Totalfail
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Dr E
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Come on PT, we know that desperate time require desperate conflated lies from you, but really, the Government never really needed a single vote from Bob Brown and John Setka's Green/Labor Collusion to get this through - and i can't really see that they will need the minor party for anything, for the next decade or so, will they?
Great to see KKQuota "flexing her muscles" in the Senate!
... so it cost them about $150 million for Tassie to get $158 Billion in tax cuts through ... and all that "Elbow" wanted was Communism! How Good is Mathias "the Senate Whisperer" Cormann!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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Ask Dutton how good Cormann is.
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Isaac soloman
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Doc E
The round about way Australia had to go to arrive at a decent PM Morrison. All worth in the end. Sadly, Labor are still on the roundabout,, getting dizzy.
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Dr E
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Isaac, I hope you like ScoMo ... based on the minor party alternatives, it looks like you will be stuck with him for a decade or so!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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Hey Doc, what is going on with the change to the HECS threshold down from $50k to $45k meaning that a heap of young people who had made an investment decision on their education and current work now have to pay a ''tax'' on their education just because we got a dishonest govt elected. Did they run on this in the election? I dont remember it..
Isn't that what you anti franking credit fascists/activists were complaining about?? Goalposts being moved. |
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rusty nails
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Big difference PT.
Franking credits was to protect the nest eggs of those who had a free education and managed to sock away a large SMSF due to concessional taxes all their working life. The young always knew they had to pay their way, anyway, what else are they going to spend it on. It’s not like the Banks will be advancing Bank mortgage finance to these chumps in the new gig economy...... |
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Dr E
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5 years worth of tax cuts - 6 months if they are smart enough to get a good job - suck it up princess. Maybe the dopes who are not smart enough to be doing a degree, and are just being led around by their noses by the Marxist in our universities will stop applying, and wait for it ... get a job instead!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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Geez Doc the broad church aint what it used to be. Previously, the glassings and knife fights were covered up by a threatened compliant media.
Young Liberal charged with glassing factional opponentA prominent young Liberal has been charged after allegedly glassing a factional rival in the head after a Liberal students’ conference. more...
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Isaac soloman
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Scott Morrison is no progressive and he's going to change the countryI have twice recently committed the sin of political optimism. The first was when I thought Tony Abbott would grow into the role of prime minister. The second was when I made the same mistake about Malcolm Turnbull. So, I’m fallible, no surprises there. The broader lesson is this: the prime ministership doesn’t miraculously change those who hold it. It’s a job, and like any job you can get better at the nuts and bolts. But you come out the same person you went in. Abbott, for example, stayed a daffily old-fashioned boofhead. Turnbull, too, remained himself. His woeful political instincts stayed woeful. He waffled luxuriantly. The most important element of continuity – overlooked amidst the disappointment - was that he ended up being what both his fans and enemies expected: a Labor prime minister with some Liberal leanings. His largest legacy might be embedding Labor policies, the National Disability Insurance Scheme and the Gonski school reforms. He acted on childcare and renewables. He tried to do something on climate. The marriage plebiscite was awful, but the result – marriage equality – was undeniably progressive. He played an historically important role, if not for the reasons his colleagues hoped.There are two sharp lessons for Labor here. The first is that the Scott Morrison we see now is not going anywhere. He is not daffy. His instincts are sharp. He can call black white and get away with it. He is a more formidable prospect than either Abbott or Turnbull. I don’t mean at the next election. I mean right now. Because the second point is that Morrison, unlike Turnbull, is not some sneaky progressive. This, in combination with his political skills, should worry Labor deeply. There is a building narrative, encouraged by Morrison himself, that our prime minister is not ideological. It’s true that he is able to jump back and forth between positions with alacrity, and argue opposite sides with equal strength. But to say that someone is willing to depart from their beliefs when it is convenient to do so is not the same as saying that person has no beliefs. This is a crucial distinction.John Howard – Morrison’s hero and mentor – is the exemplar. He was perfectly cynical when necessary. He was also an ideological warrior. The same can be said of Paul Keating. Those men were feared by their opponents not just because they won elections, but because of what they did between elections. They changed the country. Most Labor MPs are understandably shattered right now, still shocked they could be beaten by a rabble. There is no sense the party has yet woken to the real threat posed by the invigorated Liberal team. If that confusion was not clear before last week, the absurd debate around the government’s tax cuts crystallised it. What seemed to be occupying many Labor MPs was the politics of the decision. Would it prove the party backed aspiration or hated it? What would it say to the party’s base? What were the implications for the next election? Let me see if I’ve got this straight. We have all just lived through a term in which one former prime minister constantly sniped at another prime minister, who was then torn down by a third prime minister, and yet still that bloke (the third one) went on to win the election – and Labor is worrying about the political ramifications of a decision immediately after an election about tax cuts that won’t kick in until after the next election. Got that? Has it not occurred to anyone that Bill Shorten lost not just because he got the politics wrong, but because he was so obviously thinking, all the time, about the politics of everything he did and said? The debate last week suggests the habit might have spread. I’m not expecting anybody to get the violins out, but this is a tough time to be a political practitioner. The rules are changing quickly – though it’s not clear which rules, and how they’re changing. After the last campaign, it’s fair to ask: is disunity no longer death? Is it now acceptable to fatten a pig on market day? There are more practical questions, too, especially about technology. This is the uncertain atmosphere in which Labor is about to conduct what, it is promised, will be a comprehensive campaign review, without a blame game. Both elements are welcome. A third element is essential: the review should be publicly released. To keep it restricted to a few key people makes change less likely, and the guarding of self-interest a certainty. And if the political side of the operation is working better, then MPs might feel more confident voting for the right reasons, knowing their decisions will be sold effectively. That shift needs to start sooner, not later. Morrison will work quickly. He has already delivered a radical tax plan, and promised action on industrial relations. Labor can play dead, of course, taking the political punt that the government’s plans will backfire. But in the meantime, the country will have changed. It’s not a bet you’d want to get wrong. |
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Dr E
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Gee that's a bit nasty PT ... if it was Young Labor, they would never have found the body, and "Honest John" and his union mates would have been the only witnesses ... that may of course change unless "Alco" resigns as Opposition Leader, as his "bosses" are demanding ...!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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How good is homelessness?
Where does the Liberal Party find these pathetic twats? Luke Howarth wants a positive spin on homelessness. He’s right. There are so many positivesThe Minister for Homelessness wants to put a positive spin on the 116,000 people who don’t have somewhere to sleep. He’s right. There are many perks. |
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Dr E
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Slow news day for news.com ... they knew they could rely on PT with "THAT" click bait though!
How good is that "two headed" snake!!!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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How is that ''back in the black'' surplus fallacy going Doc, and are these fools still wedded to a surplus? Fraudenberg was still claiming a surplus trumps saving us from recession the other day.
They say dumb shyte to play stupid politics, wedge themselves and cant get themselves out of it.
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Dr E
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Ohhhh for an alternative government with JUST ONE (1) POLICY! |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Scott Morrison calls for ‘more love’ as he prays for Australia at Hillsong conferenceIn address to evangelical event, PM says while freedom of religion is fundamental, Christians are ‘not here to judge’ others 60 Minutes: Hillsong Church founder under police investigation over handling of father's sex crimesBy Garry McNab • 60 Minutes Producer |
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Dr E
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Get over it PT ... just as many Atheist Pedos out there you know ... and many more Muslims!
Anyway, they only need repent ... just like all of the other sinners!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Softy
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What’s the Atheists Abusers club called Doc?
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Dr E
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Ask PT softly ... I don't think he's a member - too busy with the mini mes and the Circular club, I'm sure - but I'm relying on his "fake" stats ...
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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maccamax
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THE FATHER'S INN. |
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Softy
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Explains a bit. |
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I don’t think any of us mini mes have compared PT to Winx yet Doc, I’m sure he’s a good person and all,... |
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Softy
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I am starting to think that I should ask PT what his grades at school were though. Seems pretty important on here.
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Passing Through
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My grades ended up pretty impressive softy. My first 3 years of 5th grade I struggled but got it right in my 4th attempt, so I declared victory and left.
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Softy
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Same here PT, couldn’t leave quick enough to start life in the stables. |
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Speaking of stables, when does Hobart re-open and get off these horrible synthetic tracks?
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Softy
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Not a fan of the golden carpets PT? Bit uninspiring aren’t they.
I think it was meant to be ready by the end of this year early next (before next Hobart cup) but no doubt that has changed. I’m heading down south early next week so will find out how it’s going, Launceston may get a workout over summer. |
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Our girl won on it at Devonport this prep but didn't like it much so she has gone out till turf at Launceston reopens(?). Apparently in October or so.
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Gay3
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I've seen the odd ones venturing over here in search of turf but they've not measured up - excluding Brunton.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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