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    Posted: 13 Apr 2019 at 11:36am
Folau must get on the drink. That's the only explanation I can think of At first I thought he just wanted out of his contract and that's the sober explanation but now it turns out he doesn't so he's got to be a drunk. Straight to hell for you, Israel.

As an atheist, I could not care less if a Bible bashing moron thinks I'm going to his imaginary bad place. Ooh, scary. But as a fornicating drunk atheist I wonder, why is the homo part of his rant the only part that's considered to be a problem?

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His contract was revised last year over his ''gays going to hell'' comments that threatened his contract then. Maybe it was only the gays bit specifically that this week  violated a specific part of that deal.
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We don’t get much Izzy over here. Well, not since he embarrassed himself in the AFL that is. Is he as dumb as he seems all by himself, or is he having his strings pulled by some fundie megachchurch on a recruitment drive?
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

We don’t get much Izzy over here. Well, not since he embarrassed himself in the AFL that is. Is he as dumb as he seems all by himself, or is he having his strings pulled by some fundie megachchurch on a recruitment drive?

Don't know anything about rugby or league whichever he plays.Heard something on radio yesterday but did not pay much attention. I thought someone said he will be offered a massive contract overseas and the statement was a tactic to get out of his Australian contract. I may be completely wrong or misheard but if it is true he is not so stupid lol
 


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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

We don’t get much Izzy over here. Well, not since he embarrassed himself in the AFL that is. Is he as dumb as he seems all by himself, or is he having his strings pulled by some fundie megachchurch on a recruitment drive?


There is a video Judge, where he says that anyone who celebrates Christmas and easter are heathens, and that anyone who covets wealth and material goods are also going to visit the big guy down stairs.

Apparently he is a minister in really extreme sect of that Christianity group of followers.

The hypocrisy of someone going from football code to football code and seemingly just for the pay cheque and all the perks (travelling the world with the Wallabies), must not register on his moral and ethical compass.

Strange about that
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

We don’t get much Izzy over here. Well, not since he embarrassed himself in the AFL that is. Is he as dumb as he seems all by himself, or is he having his strings pulled by some fundie megachchurch on a recruitment drive?

Don't know anything about rugby or league whichever he plays.Heard something on radio yesterday but did not pay much attention. I thought someone said he will be offered a massive contract overseas and the statement was a tactic to get out of his Australian contract. I may be completely wrong or misheard but if it is true he is not so stupid lol
 



I think you could be on the money Whale ... either overseas or NRL would be my guess, PLUS the ARU will give him a nice "shut up and go away" settlement too.
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Thank goodness there is no one here stupid enough to be arguing the free speech line with this one because of course it has nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with breaching the terms of a contract and the resulting penalty for doing so.
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Exactly   ...     When is free speech a train to distribute MADNESS>

The Law states . If you can't substantiate your belief , it is a false idea.    Is grounds for involuntary Mental assessment.

   So Religion , Climate Change believers, are Psychotic if some crack pot Psychiatrist , says so.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   Exactly   ...     When is free speech a train to distribute MADNESS>

The Law states . If you can't substantiate your belief , it is a false idea.    Is grounds for involuntary Mental assessment.

   So Religion , Climate Change believers, are Psychotic if some crack pot Psychiatrist , says so.




He is entitled to his opinion and entitled to broadcast it to the world UNLESS he has signed a contract agreeing not to. Rugby Australia has made the decision that they want their business to be inclusive of all people because they will be able to attract more dollars. Therefore they do not want their employees publicly expressing opinions that divide and discriminate. That’s why these types of clauses are in player and coach contracts. Standard employment code of conduct issue. Every job contract has them.
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He will sign with French rugby for double what he is on now, smart boy 🤑
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I think he thought he would waltz back into the NRL, Cowboys had all thAt Val Holmes cash.. Nrl said noway and then he wanted back in rugby
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Originally posted by Heavy10 Heavy10 wrote:

I think he thought he would waltz back into the NRL, Cowboys had all thAt Val Holmes cash.. Nrl said noway and then he wanted back in rugby

   I love it when people try to justify Religious/Cult Mania as being " Normal ".        . Push it too far and see how normal it is ..

   Like the many in detention for preaching Radical Islam ...    Is Israel Filou any different.
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Radical Islamists are in jail because they want to kill you,if you don’t believe their crap.

Issie just tells us,if you don’t follow his beliefs, you won’t get in to heaven..

See the difference?

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No difference really, Rusty.  They are all nutters of the worst kind.   They preach hatred under the guise of religion of peace.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

No difference really, Rusty.  They are all nutters of the worst kind.   They preach hatred under the guise of religion of peace.


   I've been told many times =   " This is Heaven " .   Too dark in Motels to explore the statement.    
   I'll be influenced by AA>....    Nutters for sure.
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He is sticking by his ''views'' and is going to let God decide his fate.

Is that what they have to call Raelene...God?
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Radical Islamists are in jail because they want to kill you,if you don’t believe their crap.

Issie just tells us,if you don’t follow his beliefs, you won’t get in to heaven..

See the difference?



The difference is that Folau lives in a secular democracy with a strict separation of church and state. If Folau lived in a society where there is no separation of church and state, i.e. Islamic society, he would not wait for God to pass Her judgement because the self-appointed custodians of God's laws never do when they have any political power.
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It seems Ablett Jr 'liked' the insta post from Folau before deleting on Sunday
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Whats this = ???    GOD to pass HER judgement.

Spare us --- The biggest danger facing our Society .    Can you imagine that skinned Rabbit, Julia ,    Being our God .

In her mind , she is already that.

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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

It seems Ablett Jr 'liked' the insta post from Folau before deleting on Sunday

Always freaked me out when the god botherer's fundamentalist belief came out. Not that he pushed his barrow a lot but when it was mentionedDead
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So if you want to play Rugby in Australia your not allowed to express your religious beliefs ? Rugby Australia should not bend over for the Corporate sponsorship if that sort of restriction is put on players. By the way, how is Folau being divisive ? He's prepared to play alongside the ones he derides - the drunks, the adulterers, the fornicators, the homosexuals. He is the one being sidelined & discriminated against by RA ( & that little Irish Qantas twat that no one can stand)
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So if you want to play Rugby in Australia your not allowed to express your religious beliefs ? Rugby Australia should not bend over for the Corporate sponsorship if that sort of restriction is put on players. By the way, how is Folau being divisive ? He's prepared to play alongside the ones he derides - the drunks, the adulterers, the fornicators, the homosexuals. He is the one being sidelined & discriminated against by RA ( & that little Irish Qantas twat that no one can stand)


No, if you want your salary pumped up to $1million a year by corporate sponsors instead of the $40,000 a year if it depended solely on gate receipts and tv ratingsWink, you do what the sponsors want. It's a very simple commercial transaction.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

So if you want to play Rugby in Australia your not allowed to express your religious beliefs ? Rugby Australia should not bend over for the Corporate sponsorship if that sort of restriction is put on players. By the way, how is Folau being divisive ? He's prepared to play alongside the ones he derides - the drunks, the adulterers, the fornicators, the homosexuals. He is the one being sidelined & discriminated against by RA ( & that little Irish Qantas twat that no one can stand)
& it would seem the no one cares to hoots about him offending the millions of drunks, adulterers & fornicators - there fair game apparently
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

So if you want to play Rugby in Australia your not allowed to express your religious beliefs ? Rugby Australia should not bend over for the Corporate sponsorship if that sort of restriction is put on players. By the way, how is Folau being divisive ? He's prepared to play alongside the ones he derides - the drunks, the adulterers, the fornicators, the homosexuals. He is the one being sidelined & discriminated against by RA ( & that little Irish Qantas twat that no one can stand)


No, if you want your salary pumped up to $1million a year by corporate sponsors instead of the $40,000 a year if it depended solely on gate receipts and tv ratingsWink, you do what the sponsors want. It's a very simple commercial transaction.
True - so it is RA rolling over for the dollar. Why should someone wanting to play Rugby not be able to express their religious thoughts ? - just because RA don't rate "religous expression" highly its not Folaus fault
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Nobody is prepared to stand up for the drunken atheist fornicator.Cry We are as friendless as a homosexual in Riyadh.
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I haven't got a religious bone in my body - all cobblers to me ( refer Fun Facts Universe thread) . However, for those out there that are this type of contract RA has entered into with Qantas is plain wrong. It might be inconvenient for many, however the bible does not go easy on homosexuals (as i understand it). So for someone who has genuine belief it is not unreasonable for them to express that view as "well as" being able to play rugby. Simple. Would like Folau to take it further if they rip his contact up
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

So if you want to play Rugby in Australia your not allowed to express your religious beliefs ? Rugby Australia should not bend over for the Corporate sponsorship if that sort of restriction is put on players. By the way, how is Folau being divisive ? He's prepared to play alongside the ones he derides - the drunks, the adulterers, the fornicators, the homosexuals. He is the one being sidelined & discriminated against by RA ( & that little Irish Qantas twat that no one can stand)


No, if you want your salary pumped up to $1million a year by corporate sponsors instead of the $40,000 a year if it depended solely on gate receipts and tv ratingsWink, you do what the sponsors want. It's a very simple commercial transaction.
True - so it is RA rolling over for the dollar. Why should someone wanting to play Rugby not be able to express their religious thoughts ? - just because RA don't rate "religous expression" highly its not Folaus fault



Of course it’s about the dollar. That’s how business operates.

This is a standard employment code of conduct issue. Has nothing to do with freedom of speech. There are behavioural requirements in every workplace and if you breach them you face consequences. In the case of Israel Falau he is going to lose his job as he has already been warned. This is stance Rugby Australia has taken. Some people like you may be turned off and that is fine but I’m willing to bet more people will be applauding them.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I haven't got a religious bone in my body - all cobblers to me ( refer Fun Facts Universe thread) . However, for those out there that are this type of contract RA has entered into with Qantas is plain wrong. It might be inconvenient for many, however the bible does not go easy on homosexuals (as i understand it). So for someone who has genuine belief it is not unreasonable for them to express that view as "well as" being able to play rugby. Simple. Would like Folau to take it further if they rip his contact up
Also reckon he would have little trouble getting a war chest to take on the fight. Plenty of backers i would have thought.
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