Visao....Derby bound?

I assume, after his good spring prep, that’s where he’s heading. Kicks off his campaign tomorrow in R6

Thought he ran ok. Won5 get warm below 2000

I’m curious as to the relevance

Oh dear

djebel wrote:

I think deep down, very very deep down you all agree with me.

Very very deep down I couldn't care if the decision is made to geld a young colt, regardless of breeding, if they feel that is the best decision.

Well if he’s bound for the SA Derby, he’ll want to be winning the BM64 over 2000m at Warracknabeal today - despite the 62kg impost.

You would hope they would not be thinking any Derby after that.

reductio ad absurdum

The SA Derby is not looking very deep again this year. The last couple of years have been dominated by horses rated in the high 60s to mid 70s. With several of the main chances on paper apparently not going including a doubt on the fav going(favoring Brisbane and 2200m rather than 2500m) it will likely look similar this year.

2 more chances to regain his form at Flemington next Saturday and Morphettville, both over 2000m for 3yos.

There were no sectionals published but on time handicaps from a reliable source, the race rated very respectably.

The corporates that are betting on the race wound him out from 26 to 51 after yesterday, but I thought he did enough for another look next week if he goes around again. With some residual fitness from his spring Derby campaign, they may not go back him up. Will be interesting to see though.

I think QLD might be an option for him.

Very weak race but cant take that price on him.
Been a major disappointment

Sacked for life

Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes

A horse with this pedigree gelded, They deserve it to turn up the nose.

VISAO (AUS)

Bay or brown gelding 2015

High Chaparral Bay 1999	Sadler's Wells Bay 1981	Northern Dancer Bay 1961	Nearctic Brown 1954	Nearco Lady Angela	1935 1944	4-r 14-c
		Northern Dancer Bay 1961	Natalma Bay 1957	Native Dancer Almahmoud	1950 1947	5-f 2-d
		Fairy Bridge Bay 1975	Bold Reason Bay 1968	Hail to Reason Lalun	1958 1952	4-n 19-b
		Fairy Bridge Bay 1975	Special Bay 1969	Forli Thong	1963 1964	3-b 5-h
	Kasora Brown 1993	Darshaan Brown 1981	Shirley Heights Bay 1975	Mill Reef Hardiemma	1968 1969	22-d 1-l
		Darshaan Brown 1981	Delsy Brown 1972	Abdos Kelty	1959 1965	1-e 13-c
		Kozana Brown 1982	Kris Chestnut 1976	Sharpen Up Doubly Sure	1969 1971	5-i 2-o
		Kozana Brown 1982	Koblenza Brown 1966	Hugh Lupus Kalimara	1952 1960	19> 1-n
Villa Moura Bay 2005	Encosta de Lago Bay 1993	Fairy King Bay 1982	Northern Dancer Bay 1961	Nearctic Natalma	1954 1957	14-c 2-d
		Fairy King Bay 1982	Fairy Bridge Bay 1975	Bold Reason Special	1968 1969	19-b 5-h
		Shoal Creek Chestnut 1988	Star Way Chestnut 1977	Star Appeal New Way	1970 1970	5-d 6-e
		Shoal Creek Chestnut 1988	Rolls Chestnut 1984	Mr Prospector Grand Luxe	1970 1974	13-c 4-g
	Secover Bay 1998	Danehill Bay 1986	Danzig Bay 1977	Northern Dancer Pas de Nom	1961 1968	2-d 7-a
		Danehill Bay 1986	Razyana Bay 1981	His Majesty Spring Adieu	1968 1974	4-d 2-d
		Christmas Spirit Bay 1986	Bletchingly Brown 1970	Biscay Coogee	1965 1959	2-o 7-a
		Christmas Spirit Bay 1986	Joy and Fun Bay 1978	Showdown Denise's Joy	1961 1972	6-b 16-c

Ancestor duplications:

Northern Dancer

3m x 4m,5m

Fairy Bridge

3m x 4m

reductio ad absurdum

Yes.

reductio ad absurdum

Second Chance wrote:

Maybe, just maybe, the horse isn't much good. Or has issues. Or both.

Be that as it may, djebel at least can't in this case accuse the trainers of starting off over 1200m etc in its two preps thus far.

Still raced him on the idiotic fortnightly pattern.

reductio ad absurdum