MORE DRUG DEATHS - Event Date: 13 Jan 2019

Parents are working 2 full time jobs to pay for a crappy house and the spoilt kids’ endless iPhones

Well I'm all for making it easier for people to take drugs. For starters, make the disabled share their toilets. Disgraceful waste of resources. Suggest for 99% of the time their wouldn't be a genuine disabled person within cooee of them. Its not as if the odd needle here, or a bit of powder there is going to upset anyone.  

oneonesit wrote: Well I'm all for making it easier for people to take drugs. For starters, make the disabled share their toilets. Disgraceful waste of resources. Suggest for 99% of the time their wouldn't be a genuine disabled person within cooee of them. Its not as if the odd needle here, or a bit of powder there is going to upset anyone.

Actually, I'd go one further & suggest they also use them for SSM casual meeting places as well. Lets get the utilisation % right up. Could have a wall with self-serve dispensers - free condoms, needles, tissues ! 

acacia alba wrote: Thats funny you bring that up.  Where my OH works they have just put in a new office and staff toilet and shower, along with a ramp and a disabled toilet.   Thing is, no disabled person could do that job.  Not physically possable .

Sssshhh - Geoff Huegill & his mrs might be listening  

JudgeHolden wrote: Shrunk in the Wash wrote: JudgeHolden wrote: So you don’t condone gambling? No, gambling as with grog and smokes, in the large part, are a bite on the arse of society. Do you agree? So you’d support making gambling illegal? Wow, that’s a bold statement on a horse racing forum.

Gambling in this country is a disgrace. We have by far the biggest gambling spend per capita in the world by a country mile. This will only ever be improved by more regulation. Those with their noses in the trough - Pubs, Clubs, Casinos, Corporate Bookies et al - have proven to be incapable of self-regulation. The problem we have is the governments are the worst offenders. Feeders !

Dysfunctional Families , passed on to the generations that follow, with ever increasing regularity.
Usually Drug induced in the first place.    Substance abuse isn't new by any means .
The Famous Heroine and other opiates , Barbiturates , Methylated Spirits in cordial was the favoured "cheapie".

We have pressed forward to where the percentage of School Teachers , Doctors , Nurses , Police etc are into the gear.

Keep ignoring the cancerous problem and pay the price.    Welfare dependence is just proof, to what I'm saying.
We don't only import DRUGS , We have to import workers , especially in regional areas.

This thread only tells me it is frightening, to see so many with their head in the sand.

oneonesit wrote: Whale wrote: oneonesit wrote: Bit like the reality show on the ABC about morbidly obese people. The real problem is not what their stuffing in their gobs every 5 minutes - its the underlying issues that's causing them to do that. The problem is these underlying issues seem to be a bit hard to diagnose - & even harder to fix if they ever are. Which brings you back to people continuing to shuv food down their throats - because hey - its the underlying issues causing it ! they're how is your body shape going, settled in for 2 weeks tennis watching with the packets of corn chips resting on your stomach ready to shove in your gob and gallons of Coke by your side Gee - you must be getting bored with a few of your like minded jibberers on this thread frothing at the mouth - so you go back 3 pages to troll me back in. Well done. Now the thread may get a bit more interesting.

Passing Through wrote: How did prohibition work out with alcohol?

Reduced the amount of drinking considerably. When introduced drinking levels dropped to 30% of pre-prohibition rates. Increased back up to 70% before it was repealed in 1933

oneonesit wrote: Hang on let me get this right. There is a growing movement to have energy drinks more regulated. Some want them banned altogether - or at least to under 18 year olds. Then we have some on here wanting hard-core drugs legalised so everyone can have them. Crazy world we live in !

     The ones who want the illegals , legalised , haven't given any thought to the problem of the ones already legalised , oneone.

Anyone who has ever been close to the victims , don't want more made legal.

   We want the Law enforced by whatever means it takes.

Whale wrote: I never took drugs because I did not like the thought of not being in control of my senses, same reason I rarely drink

You sure your not being forced fed a few every night when your asleep under the grey blanket Whale ?

oneonesit wrote: Whale wrote: I never took drugs because I did not like the thought of not being in control of my senses, same reason I rarely drink You sure your not being forced fed a few every night when your asleep under the grey blanket Whale ?

Don't the nurses do their rounds about 2am

oneonesit wrote: ExceedAndExcel wrote: oneonesit wrote: Hang on let me get this right. There is a growing movement to have energy drinks more regulated. Some want them banned altogether - or at least to under 18 year olds. Then we have some on here wanting hard-core drugs legalised so everyone can have them. Crazy world we live in ! It’s all about taking personal responsibility OneOne. The government should not be telling anyone what they can and can’t consume. Energy drinks, booze, drugs, gambling, whatever. If someone ruins themselves through anything like that then that is their problem. Chaos. There's a lot of people in this country that have next to no self-control. Whales just an example of one of them. Its bad enough with regulations - could only get worse without them. Law of the jungle ?

Who’s saying open slather with no regulation? On the contrary, there should be regulation just like there is with other vices.
- Tax the product which will provide additional revenue to fund programs to treat addiction and other problems
- Regulate in terms of how it is made, what ingredients etc and you’ll get a much safer product. How many deaths will you see from a hot dose (is that the term??) when a pharmacical company is making it compared to some scum bag in his filthy laundry sink? And in the event that someone does get something dodgy you have a legitimate business to sue.
- Antisocial activities that effect society get punished the same way they do now.

Pretty simple stuff.

ExceedAndExcel wrote: oneonesit wrote: ExceedAndExcel wrote: oneonesit wrote: Hang on let me get this right. There is a growing movement to have energy drinks more regulated. Some want them banned altogether - or at least to under 18 year olds. Then we have some on here wanting hard-core drugs legalised so everyone can have them. Crazy world we live in ! It’s all about taking personal responsibility OneOne. The government should not be telling anyone what they can and can’t consume. Energy drinks, booze, drugs, gambling, whatever. If someone ruins themselves through anything like that then that is their problem. Chaos. There's a lot of people in this country that have next to no self-control. Whales just an example of one of them. Its bad enough with regulations - could only get worse without them. Law of the jungle ? Who’s saying open slather with no regulation? On the contrary, there should be regulation just like there is with other vices. - Tax the product which will provide additional revenue to fund programs to treat addiction and other problems - Regulate in terms of how it is made, what ingredients etc and you’ll get a much safer product. How many deaths will you see from a hot dose (is that the term??) when a pharmacical company is making it compared to some scum bag in his filthy laundry sink? And in the event that someone does get something dodgy you have a legitimate business to sue. - Antisocial activities that effect society get punished the same way they do now. Pretty simple stuff.

Gee the autocorrect really made a mess of “pharmaceutical”


- Additional benefit to the above would be to drive drug dealers out of business. Less criminal element.

I see - legalise it like gambling, alcohol & tobacco - let it flourish & then tax the living daylights out of it & make it another government revenue stream. All these things are addictions. You mat be one of the fortunate ones who can control their exposure. Many cant. I'd go as far as saying the majority of the population have some addictive behaviour to at least one of these four things (some type of illegal drug the other) 

JudgeHolden wrote: marble wrote: We as a community need to look at why kids are taking drugs in the first place. There is a lot of talk on here about the role parents play in this problem through lack of discipline. That may be partly correct but the real answer is that they don't spend enough time with their children. Don't encourage them in sports and after school activities. I'm not a fan of scomo but it seems he has been looking at the success Iceland has had in dealing with the drug and alcohol problem there and has announced a new initiative here in australia.  its a step in the right direction.  There’s no real mystery to it, marble- kids take drugs because it’s fun and pleasurable. Not condoning it, but this is a rather simple fact that has to be acknowledged. As Renton put it in Trainspotting: “People think it's all about misery and desperation and death and all that gelatie, which is not to be ignored. But what they forget is the pleasure of it. Otherwise we wouldn't do it.” That of course is about hardcore junkies. But people sitting back and smoking a joint or the kid popping an ecstasy in a club are doing it for the same fundamental reason- it makes them feel good.

Yes, the concern on here from many has been the junkies.
As you said, drugs are actually fun. What we need to do is discourage that attempt at fun as much as we can.
Legalising drugs will not do that