MORE DRUG DEATHS - Event Date: 13 Jan 2019

Afros wrote: acacia alba wrote: Have I ever denigrated you ?   I cant think where i did that, but if I did, copy and paste for me and I will apologise. I thought it was pretty obvious who the 2 loudest conservative voices around here are...

“I’ve got xx mates & relatives that are all schizo. Drugs are the common denominator... well, drugs AND me... but it’s the drugs... for sure the drugs... THEY are out to get them... get the drugs... the drugs have got them...”

maccamax wrote: Isaac soloman wrote: Afros wrote: acacia alba wrote: Have I ever denigrated you ?   I cant think where i did that, but if I did, copy and paste for me and I will apologise. I thought it was pretty obvious who the 2 loudest conservative voices around here are... So some of us on here are alleged conservatives. you SIR, are a hypocrite. where does that place you politically? Would you like a dummy? He is a dummy Isaac. Good to see you back from Holiday, flying the "Common Sense Flag".

This is the problem with you and Doc, anyone who disagrees with either of you just cops the constant stream of insults, you don't have to agree but you could certainly learn to be more respectful.

To survive in here Afros you will have to toughen up. Even Gay not that long ago described Joffs as the bowels of the Earth - or something like that. Not much hope for any of down here. Gets worse after midnight & when there is a full moon   

Waiting to hear if I have denigrated you ?? 

Tlazolteotl wrote: maccamax wrote: Red Hare wrote: “I’ve got xx mates & relatives that are all schizo. Drugs are the common denominator... well, drugs AND me... but it’s the drugs... for sure the drugs... THEY are out to get them... get the drugs... the drugs have got them...”     Totally out of control , The drug scene , Red Hare .      ATTACK THE USER is the only way.   BY whatever means. This latest Melbourne Murder will be another Psychotic ( probably drug induced ),   Who adds to the failure of the closure of the Institution detention for the victims of their drug / alcohol abuse. I doubt it.

I don’t doubt it.
“Another former schoolmate said she saw him a week ago in Grimshaw Street, Bundoora less than 3 kilometres from where Ms Maasarwe was killed. He appeared disorientated and was walking into oncoming traffic”

“another schoolmate, said Mr Hermann had seemed like a normal student in his junior years but spiralled in his later years, battling with drug and alcohol abuse issues.


Both quotes from the smh

Shrunk in the Wash wrote: Tlazolteotl wrote: maccamax wrote: Red Hare wrote: “I’ve got xx mates & relatives that are all schizo. Drugs are the common denominator... well, drugs AND me... but it’s the drugs... for sure the drugs... THEY are out to get them... get the drugs... the drugs have got them...”     Totally out of control , The drug scene , Red Hare .      ATTACK THE USER is the only way.   BY whatever means. This latest Melbourne Murder will be another Psychotic ( probably drug induced ),   Who adds to the failure of the closure of the Institution detention for the victims of their drug / alcohol abuse. I doubt it. I don’t doubt it. “Another former schoolmate said she saw him a week ago in Grimshaw Street, Bundoora less than 3 kilometres from where Ms Maasarwe was killed. He appeared disorientated and was walking into oncoming traffic” “another schoolmate, said Mr Hermann had seemed like a normal student in his junior years but spiralled in his later years, battling with drug and alcohol abuse issues. Both quotes from the smh

Tlazolteotl wrote: What was the attraction of working in a loony bin all those years, maccamax? It sounds like a bloody terrible job to me.

Work ? - not sure he was working in the place (only kidding Macca)

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maccamax wrote: Whale wrote: Tlazolteotl wrote: What was the attraction of working in a loony bin all those years, maccamax? It sounds like a bloody terrible job to me. Probably an ego thing, reinforced his view that he was sane and everyone else was crazy. Plus we now what a harsh disciplinarian he is, I would imagine you could get away with many human rights abuses in those places       You would be straightened out Whale.    Which will eventually happen on here when gay3 realises what you are really made of.

Tlazolteotl wrote: What was the attraction of working in a loony bin all those years, maccamax? It sounds like a bloody terrible job to me.

It is a difficult area & we all pay a price for such a terrible environment.     Especially in earlier years , when there was little available to manage the unfortunates who were inmates.
   The "straight jacket " ( in its many forms ) was the last resort for restraining dangers to others.
I was all of 18 years when I started my training.   Too young to be exposed to the worst areas of those places.     ( probably why one turns everything into a laugh,)   Occupational hazard was alcohol abuse for many staff.

Along came the Tranquilizers and that served as a miracle management advance, BUT not a cure as MAD PSYCHIATRISTS would have you think.

I had 13 years at Bloomfield in Orange NSW before moving to Sydney's jungle of Psychiatric Centre's .      A brief stint in Customs .. Went into the General Nursing and spent the remainder of my worklife between the various Hospital facilities .   Age care is a difficult area and this Royal Commission may show how impossible it is to care for so many people who need more than the limited ratio of staff provided.
My experience was that 99 % of staff have good intentions, But limited time & resources ,    leave a lot to be desired.
Rumours that have always been floating around are usually baseless, and several Royal Commissions have found little they can improve on.
I face the fear of age care myself anytime soon.... Not from the staff , From The lack of them.
A demented elderly Person is very difficult, resistive and really in need of one on one care .   Which is impossible to give. That is why sedative type medication is widely used.
Restraining people is used on occasion s to avoid people falling , injuring themselves.
      MAYBE THE ARMCHAIR JOCKEYS WILL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION> But Don't hold your breath.
What can staff do ?                                                                  

He must be one sick dude.  The cops wont even say exactly what he did to her , its so bad.  Knowing the justice system he will be walking the streets again in max 5 years, to do it to another girl.

Shrunk in the Wash wrote: Let’s just legalise what drugs he was taking and the problem will go away

I shudder to think of that word "legalise".    > Injecting rooms make it "legal" now.
   Lets Legalise MURDER .   That way we will know ( WHo Dunnit )

    NO USERS no Business for suppliers .    

Dr E wrote: Shrunk in the Wash wrote: Let’s just legalise what drugs he was taking and the problem will go away  ... exactly! I can't work out what is legal anymore? Killing someone in a drug-induced frenzy would seem OK, so long as you do it at a music festival where they tested your drugs first ...

   This testing is rubbish Doc....      It can't be done with any degree of accuracy.
   Most would be full of something when they arrive ( Drugs /Alcohol )

The mixing of substances is where a big risk is.
Police are limited as to what they can test for Roadside.
There is no way a home brewed pill can be tested at a festival , unless a trade mark is visible, all else would be deemed to be too risky .
The fools purchasing , wouldn't like or accept that.

What on Earth are you on about? Firstly, who’s making excuses for him? Secondly, do you know for a fact that he wouldn’t have committed a violent crime if he hadn’t used drugs in the past (hint, look up correlation vs causation)? Thirdly, the illegal drugs that you’re arguing were responsible for this blokes behaviour HE GOT ANYWAY.