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Wrong Koch LOL
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Whoops.
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I was going to say, that, that Port Adelaide board meeting must have been rough!
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This one was wealthy enough to buy Greenland.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

This one was wealthy enough to buy Greenland.

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Margarita Plavunova. Photo / Instagram
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"Russian athlete Margarita Plavunova has been found dead on the side of the road while out jogging during a training session.

The champion hurdler, 25, was discovered in the Morshansky District in the Tamblov Oblast region of western Russia.

She suffered a cardiac arrest while training, according to the regional athletics federation, while local media reports claim her sudden death was likely caused by her heavy workload."

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

This one was wealthy enough to buy Greenland.

A Republican donor but quite enlightened on social issues and disliked Trump

Should be more like him
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"Russian athlete Margarita Plavunova has been found dead on the side of the road while out jogging during a training session.

The champion hurdler, 25, was discovered in the Morshansky District in the Tamblov Oblast region of western Russia.

She suffered a cardiac arrest while training, according to the regional athletics federation, while local media reports claim her sudden death was likely caused by her heavy workload."


and drugs ?
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

This one was wealthy enough to buy Greenland.

A Republican donor but quite enlightened on social issues and disliked Trump

Should be more like him


This is the 1980 Libertarian Party platform when Koch ran for VP


  • We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
  • “We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
  • “We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
  • “We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
  • “We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
  • “We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence.  Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
  • “We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
  • “We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
  • “As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
  • “We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
  • “We advocate the complete separation of education and State.  Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
  • “We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
  • “We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
  • “We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
  • “We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
  • “We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
  • “We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
  • “We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
  • “We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
  • “We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
  • “We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
  • “We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
  • “We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
  • “We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
  • “We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
  • “We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”

There are some doosies in there.LOL
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"In other words, the agenda of the Koch brothers is not only to defund Obamacare.  The agenda of the Koch brothers is to repeal every major piece of legislation that has been signed into law over the past 80 years that has protected the middle class, the elderly, the children, the sick, and the most vulnerable in this country."

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"We interviewed a guy who used to work as a doorman at 740 Park. I asked him to rank the tippers at the building, and he said the absolute worst was David Koch. He said he would get from him, every holiday season, a $50 check. I really found that appalling."


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Look like true Americans to me.
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By the time he died on Friday at the age of 79, David Koch was worth $42.4 billion. He will be remembered for what he did with it. Some people will probably praise his charitable spirit, perhaps even his support for criminal-justice reform, or his skepticism of military intervention. “The vast bulk of Koch’s philanthropy was not political,” Brian Doherty noted in an obit for Reason magazine. “It included hundreds of millions of dollars for cancer research (he was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1992) and major arts and sciences institutions, museums, schools, and public television, with much of his institutional philanthropy centered in New York City, his home for decades.”

But Koch’s largesse wasn’t free. We are paying for it now, and have been paying for it for decades. Koch’s legacy is a testament to the power of weaponized philanthropy. For Koch did not restrict himself to supporting artists and scientists. He, along with his brother Charles, who survives him, committed their vast family fortune to the construction of a powerful conservative network. We live in the world that he helped build, and it is on fire.

Koch, who ran for office on the Libertarian Party ticket in 1980, helped funnel billions into climate-change-denying organizations for decades. His motivation wasn’t a mystery: He did it because he was greedy. Political action to arrest climate change threatened Koch’s business interests. His family originally made its money in oil and gas, and Koch Industries, as Tim Dickinson laid out in a 2014 piece for Rolling Stone, is one of the biggest polluters in the U.S. “Thanks in part to its 2005 purchase of paper-mill giant Georgia-Pacific, Koch Industries dumps more pollutants into the nation’s waterways than General Electric and International Paper combined,” he wrote.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/david-kochs-monstrous-legacy.html?utm_source=nym&utm_medium=f1&utm_campaign=feed-part


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I only know what I read in today's paper which said they had some enlightened views on women's rights, migrants etc.

Seems they have mellowed a bit recently

The brothers didn’t support Trump in his 2016 campaign, although they praised his efforts to cut taxes and regulations. After Charles Koch criticized Trump’s approach to trade and his leadership style during a donor retreat in 2018, the president tweeted that the brothers “have become a total joke in real Republican circles.”

Their political network by then was backing away from reflexive support for Republicans, such as then-Representative Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, who arguably strayed too far from the brothers’ vision of free-market orthodoxy. Cramer nevertheless beat an incumbent Democrat, Heidi Heitkamp, for a Senate seat.

Days after the midterms that year, when the Democrats retook the House despite millions in Koch spending for Republicans, the network called for a more bipartisan focus on what unites Americans with work on criminal-justice reform, immigration and promotion of free trade

“A lot of billionaires make their contribution and their name is on the board of directors, but they have no intention of showing up to the meetings,” said New York philanthropist Adrienne Arsht. “He came to meetings. He was always hands-on.”

Arsht said David Koch never acted like Manhattan’s wealthiest person.

“He was most understated,” she said. “There was nothing about anything that he did that made you think he was anything but a man from Kansas.”

But the Koch brothers played a massive role in politics, helping shape state and federal policy.

Confounding Critics

Characterizing himself as a social liberal, David Koch was pro-choice when it came to abortion and supportive of same-sex marriage and stem-cell research. Further confounding liberal critics, the brothers supported efforts to free nonviolent prisoners and overhaul sentencing, changes they argued would reduce recidivism, save taxpayers money and remove barriers to opportunity.

“He believed he had a responsibility to a world that had given him so many opportunities to succeed,” his family said in a statement Friday. “David’s philanthropic dedication to education, the arts and cancer research will have a lasting impact on innumerable lives.”

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Privatisation of public roads...WT royal F!?!!?!

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"In other words, the agenda of the Koch brothers is not only to defund Obamacare.  The agenda of the Koch brothers is to repeal every major piece of legislation that has been signed into law over the past 80 years that has protected the middle class, the elderly, the children, the sick, and the most vulnerable in this country."

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 they used them as a template in series 6 of House of Cards...how to influence politics by monetary blackmail...sounds familiar, doesn't it, Rupert Murdoch?

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Jessi Combs, 39, daredevil, race car driver, and TV show host, also known as the world's fastest woman on four wheels, dead after speed crash during world record attempt.

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She hosted on Mythbusters didn't she VSP?

I see actress Valerie Harper passed away yesterday. Best known for her role in the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Became one of the, queens of 1980's made for television movies.
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Yes she did Voyager.
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Robert Mugabe dead at 95
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Good riddance.
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Unfortunately for his nation about twenty five years late.

Finally nature has done, what Howard should have in 1996, 97 or 98!
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Guessing nobody had the mercurial Abdul Qadir ?

He was absolutely mesmerising at his best.


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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Good riddance.




Saintly is cheering more than most. He had him in the comp. Anyone else score with Mugabe?
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[<:o)] [<:o)] [<:o)]

Unfortunately for his nation about twenty five years late.

Finally nature has done, what Howard should have in 1996, 97 or 98!


Howard?Confused
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Rocker Eddie Money from esophageal cancer aged 70.
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