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3blindmice
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Understand he means "stamina" in the Oz context but there is no 1400m in this country which is a test of stamina unless the plan is to eventually build a new track with some decent topography and an steep uphill run home. I'd like to see a horse triathlon at set weights, all horses carry 55 (and not 500g over - 6months ban and $50K fine for any jockey overweight, zero exceptions), no whips or spurs allowed. They swim the first 200m then jockeys mount Le Mans style for a few low hurdles for 600m followed by an uphill run home over 700m.
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RED HUNTER
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djebel
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I like it. I am pinching that. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Tlazolteotl
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What else can "middle-distance range" mean except for 1400m or maybe 1500m in the above context, Everest runners racing George Main and Epsom runners?
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3blindmice
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MM Stayers Cup (rofl) is 1800m, shortest race distance is 800m(?), so "middle distance" is ~1300m .
We go from the sublime to the ridiculous, and guess who's paying for it? I'll make a prediction. Racing turnover from Oz residents will diminish over the next 10 years. In other words these are racing's heydays. That could be turned around IF we suddenly had a dozen quality middle distance horses a la the 1990s but that seems very unlikely.
Inevitably the MRC will have to boost the Cup prizemoney 10% I suppose. |
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rem286
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Winx Stakes - 1400m WFA
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rem286
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Neither carry G1 status. New race might not either, but winning an $8M race will certainly have some status to go with it.
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Straight arrow
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I think it's a good thing what is going on in changing up the callander and putting these new races on. As long as this new influx of money is still going to flow back to all round racing worker! ( trainer owner jockey strapper ex) and then racing might put there heads together and break with a bit of old tradition in looking at the spring program for 3yld ? Ex derby, ridiculous it being 2500mtr when some of the runners are still 2yld . I know traditionaly its 2400 mtr but not every where in the world run there derby's at that trip! It just makes for a more logical lead up to the AJC derby run when horses are 3yld. Could keep going but there's plenty of time !
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Tlazolteotl
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That won't work as a 1400m championship, being held in August.
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TJMitchell
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Racing NSW announce new race - Golden Eagle - at Rosehill on November 2 over 1500m, 4yo horses at set weights. Prizemoney at $7.5 million.
Racing NSW say 10% of prizemoney won in the Golden Eagle will be given to charities of the owners' choice. Golden Slam being formed - Golden Slipper at 2yo, Golden Rose at 3yo, Golden Eagle at 4yo. Any horse that completes all three wins $5 million bonus. Racing NSW also announce Bondi Stakes, 1600m race for 3yo at Randwick on Cox Plate Day, worth $1million. Golden Gift for 2yos in November next year worth $1million, run over 1100m.
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Jamal
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To be run in Sydney whilst Vic Derby day is in Melbourne: https://www.punters.com.au/news/racing-nsw-announce-new-rich-races_175194/
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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3blindmice
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Externally sponsored. I'm pleasantly surprised that the concept appears to have some sound reasoning behind it, primarily to encourage horses to stay in Au racing.
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3blindmice
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furious
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Is the Golden Gift going to slot in where the old Silver Slipper used to run?
Not sure about the Bondi that's to close to the Caulfield Guineas and will cause issues for fields. Also this is just going to start a turf war. Pull you heads in and talk to each other instead of driving a wedge deeper into the cracks. |
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TJMitchell
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2 weeks apart seems alright. Both should get decent fields. The Bondi will get probably get most of the Guineas field barring the winner and a few others
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Speediskey
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Great announcements, more competition is good.
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Speediskey
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Interesting timeline, though.
Arrowfield buy Dundeel - QE is raised to 4 million prizemoney Arrowfield buy The Autumn Sun - New 7.5 million dollar race made (While conveniently keeping him apart from Winx) In general I think they'll be great races, though.
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furious
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So Melbourne will be full of overseas horses and the Australian horses will be in Sydney? Competition is good but there also has to be a flow and a give and take so the best horses can be seen everywhere. Wouldn't it be sad if Melbourne had never seen Winx!
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jacko1
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1500m sounds good, I've always wondered why they didn't have more races over that distance and get a mix of the sprinters and milers. But the interstate war that seems to have heated up in recent years isn't great for racing imo, you want the best horses in the country in the same place at once, not split up.
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Campaspe
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Geez, we're going to see a lot of nice young horses ruined trying to get to that Golden Gift.
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rem286
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Never said it would. Just saying there is no G1 open age 2000m but most other distances were already covered. Anyway doesn't matter now, 3 more races at 1600 or less for $1M+.
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rem286
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I was thinking exactly the same thing.
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Heavy10
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All these big money races over 1200-1500 how much would Black Caviar earn if she was around...
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djebel
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If we did not have the European and Japanese imports plus those interlopers in the Spring we'd probably think we had top class middle distance and staying types. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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This new 2yo race they are creating. Why not just move the Silver Slipper from the summer/autumn to the Spring ?
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reductio ad absurdum
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Whale
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Sydney spivs, money doesn't buy class
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Tlazolteotl
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I just read that it's only for 4yos and one of the main aims is to keep 3yo colts from being retired. Oh, dear- why not go the whole hog and restrict this restricted race to 4yo entires? Wouldn't want a gelding to ruin it.
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Lord Hybrow
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Agree with this, and wasn’t the Silver Slipper traditionally run in the Spring anyway? Cox Plate Say, Im pretty sure. But seriously I can’t fathom that Spring 2yo’s are going to be racing for $1.0m prizemoney. At that time of the season, the field will be full of horses that have only had 1 or 2 starts (at most), maybe even debutants. Certainly not horses that deserve to be racing for that sort of astronomical prizemoney at that point in their careers. |
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Tlazolteotl
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The more I think about this race the less I like it. For starters, I don't like big bucks restricted races: I like open races. I thought that it could be Australia's 1400m or 1500m championship. Nope-far from it. It won't get the best of Australia and it won't get northern hemisphere visitors.
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JudgeHolden
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You’re essentially going to re-run of the Randwick Guineas 6 months later. Whoopee. Generally speaking our 4yos can’t compete with imports/internationals in the Spring anyway, so I doubt they’ll be missed in Melbourne much anyway. As a pure race it’s likely to be very underwhelming restricted event.
I hear there’s external or new funding. Anyone specified what it actually is? |
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