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Hazyview
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Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 4:40pm |
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Foals are naturally more upright than yearlings, he looks fine to me in that regard.
Much better being a little upright than too slack, especially in Australia.
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JoH
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I accept everyone's concern about those pasterns but what jumped out at me on both of those foal pics were the knees ... top one is more so but both look to my eyes anyway as if they (the knees) are turned out in relation to what is above and below them. |
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suck it up ... Life isn't run at w.f.a. :)
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goldey
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I would think a the pasterns would be more a fault if the shoulder angle was more pronounced which it is not . By memory Statue of Liberty has very upright pasterns but didnt stop his ability on the track or in the barn . In saying that his track career was short and his best progeny Had pretty bad hoof crack issues .Alot of foals seem a little upright to start but this foal is more than a week old .I hope it runs like the wind .
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Sister Dot
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I was working from memory,never a good thing. But still, sold for decent money
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Gay3
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Statistics & commercial appeal aside, anyone who rides or has, will know how jarry these straight pasterned jobs are to ride - bloody awful to be honest & if they're affecting me, they sure aren't doing their own bodies any favours
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Second Chance
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Yes $265k is about average Isaac.
But perhaps overs for a sibling to three failed horses sired by two champions, almost not to mention for a foal with a clear conformational fault.
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Isaac soloman
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hard yards. how so?
you dont think 265k is average nowadays? an auction? you should know only takes two to really want something to push the price along.
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Second Chance
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Do some hard yards please Isaac. Her first three foals sold for an average of about $7,000 Aud and were by Champion sires Deep Impact and Hard Spun.
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Isaac soloman
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Nicer than this one that went for 500k, same sale, by Maurice.
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Isaac soloman
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in the end a nice sprint conformation.
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Isaac soloman
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$265k.
average price nowadays.
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Second Chance
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All very confusing.
My Jen's first three foals sold for low prices and have done nothing, so can't quite work out why this one sold so well.
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Sister Dot
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Having said that, many that didn’t look right have become successful racers, but statistically.........
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Sister Dot
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Alan Morton made me realise that all the good blood in the world won’t do any good if the conformation won’t stand up to the rigours of a racing prep 🤓👌
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Sister Dot
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Just jokin - Shadai Farm's Mikki Isle – My Jen colt was purchased by Ryotokuji Kenji Holdings for 22 million yen ($A265,000). |
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Second Chance
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Correct. However that observation isn't going to change the angle of this one's pasterns.
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Isaac soloman
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the angle of the shoulder will dictate the angle of the pastern.
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Second Chance
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Intervention isn't on. Nature can heal, but not so in this case imo.
Whilst the angle might change the youngster will always be too straight.
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Isaac soloman
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I had a foal so knockneed i thought he would have to be put down.
now a 4 year old as straight as a die, without intervention. With maturity that foal will develop nicely. past practices had vets interfering to the detriment. is amazing what nature does. |
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Carioca
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I thought minimal foot developement may be the reason the foal stands a little high, maybe with a little growth in the toe area and running in the paddock may bring the pasterns to an angle to cause you less worry , ( just a couch opinion, I know little fwiw.)
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Sister Dot
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If I tell you I might have to commit HaraKari |
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Come on then, more detail, can’t leave us hanging |
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Prince of Penzance
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Poor horse
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Gay3
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Me too
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Sister Dot
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Well if we’re wrong, make that geese, as in 3! Yep my thoughts exactly. And he cost a motzah. |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Great minds
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robbo
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That's what I thought as well. |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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I may make a goose of myself but the upright patterns?
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Sister Dot
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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