MELBOURNE KILLING - Event Date: 09 Nov 2018

Good on the PM for saying what he did !  And if the Muslim community and its Imans got behind him , and helped weed out the bad eggs, it would calm things down a lot, instead of calling him racist for stating the bleeding obvious . 

maccamax wrote: acacia alba wrote: Good on the PM for saying what he did !  And if the Muslim community and its Imans got behind him , and helped weed out the bad eggs, it would calm things down a lot, instead of calling him racist for stating the bleeding obvious .

Passing Through wrote: Meanwhile James Gargasoulas, a man with mental health issues was today found guilty of murdering 6 people in Bourke Street last year. He plead not guilty claiming God had ordered him to do it. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/bourke-st-driver-james-gargasoulas-in-court/10487046

Gods make bad decisions..    Too often .

Very lucky people in Melbourne me thinks .
Had he opened the valve on all of the gas bottles before he lit the fire ,
He could have wiped out quite an area.

Ask maxie how many James Gargasoulas's there are on the streets that shouldn't be.

But not a terrified quivering Xenophobe 

Passing Through wrote: Ask maxie how many James Gargasoulas's there are on the streets that shouldn't be.

Fking tens of thousands PT.        > Stupid Governments don't accept rule one, is get them off the streets for assessment.   When released, if at all a danger , they are monitored after release by compulsory presenting for further assessments periodically,    must notify any change of address ,
No drink , drugs etc etc. comply with conditions or straight back into detention.

Thousands of people have lost their lives unnecessarily , as a result of the stupid closing of the areas that used to be available .
That all started gradually after the 1970's / 80's.

IMHO The biggest mistake in my lifetime.

A Must See.
     On Sky Tonight .. Special on Terrorism ... Credlin , Dr Jennifer Oriel ( Brilliant , Outstandingly Brilliant Lady , The best I've ever heard from on Terrorism ) Known worldwide .      . Chris Kenny made up the team.

Why is this latest happening in Melbourne causing such discussion here and blaming of the entire Islamic community, yet the 1 Australian woman murdered by a current or ex partner on average every 3 days does not get this level of finger pointing and blaming?

Before I cop the barrage of pink text, I don't like seeing either happen but surely the latter issue is deserving of more attention as it costs a far greater number of lives.

To me it just feels like jumping up and down about the group that are different is easier then admitting there is a problem in society that leads to someone murdering a current or former partner.

You are being way too sensible Afros, expect a barrage of Muslim apologist attacks.  

Passing Through wrote: You are being way too sensible Afros, expect a barrage of Muslim apologist attacks.

Not sure he is Pt. Domestic violence is obviously a major issue - measures are being taken to reduce it ( not sure how successfully). What has that got to do with being more tolerant / accepting of Islamic terrorism. Strange comment imo

Whale wrote: What is wrong with the higher ranks in Victoria Police?   Permission was refused for the tactical response team to get involved when Gargasoulas stabbed his brother, after an incident at McDonalds Elsternwick, when he threw his girlfriend out of the car. At one stage he parked his car for an hour and was not arrested. There were at least 6 opportunities to arrest him Not the police on the ground but police command is pathetic,paralysed by indecision, , risk adverse The massacre could have and should have been avoided

acacia alba wrote: And why are the Imans so up in arms about the PM of the country they chose to live in, saying what a huge  % think , but dont get much of a chance to say because we get howled down as racist. Why is it so hard for the Imans to take a public stand and say,  " Enough !  Our religion is one of peace , not violence " .   Well, thats what we keep getting told anyway.

There is talk about people taking class action to sue the government for total lack of due diligence in protecting citizens from terrorism.

Dr E wrote: Do you think we are silly to have so many of these Radical Islamic Terrorists under surveilance? ... is that what you mean by hysteria? Did you know that this guy with the knife was already identified as a threat, but we simply do not have enough people deployed to watch them all? What do you suspect will happen now that all of these ISIS fighters want to return to Australia? ... do you think because "the war is over" they will no longer pose a threat? ... it won't matter if the ALP gets into power - the Greens will be cashing in their chips, and demanding 50,000 unvetted asylum seekers are brought in every year, and the ALP won't argue ... and Muslim women rarely complain about domestic violence, what with Sharia Law and all that ... Yes, domestic violence is a huge problem. Aboriginal child abuse is too, and it would be helpful, and something might be done about that, if the entitled, inner city, virtue signalling light brown ones were more interested in fixing that human rights issue, and less interested in changing Australia day! ... but if we don't protect the citizen in the street, control who comes here, and get rid of the obvious problems, we can't even start on the other stuff.

Hopeless Government Dr E.
     Cheaper to build a Detention Centre and Run it similar to the old Institutions.
   Day, weekly, monthly leave for those conforming . Nil for any considered an acute threat.
That way they are Monitored and under proper control.

   Hang the Bluddy fools who let them in .     .Investigate to the Max any environment they have been exposed to during their road to Radicalisation.