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    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Ohhhh, yeah,,10 pound poms Thumbs Up  they were much better for the country than the islamists we are getting now Cry


We all love the Poms .

A few Union Reps I'd like to see gelded ,   But in the main Tops.

Ive just had a visit from a family who lived next door to me in Sydney .
They went back as her mother was ill.    In London now ( Bad there, they tell me )

I also housed a few supporters when the Rugby was on in 2003    Still in touch ....   bathplugs, gave me hell when Wilkinson kicked that fatal goal.
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Ohhhh, yeah,,10 pound poms Thumbs Up  they were much better for the country than the islamists we are getting now Cry

animals before people.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

How did we get from London to razor gangs in NSW  ??  Confused


     London sent them out here , when it was only 5 quid.
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How did we get from London to razor gangs in NSW  ??  Confused
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interesting PT...      Kings Cross before the NSW Premier, Teflon John organised the slaughter.
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Razors as preferred criminal weapon: 1927–1930[edit]

After handguns were criminalised in New South Wales, razors became the weapon of choice amongst Sydney gangsters. Shortly after the Pistol Licensing Act 1927 was passed, a visiting sailor used a cutthroat razor to defend himself from attackers.[6] As a result, razors became a default weapon due to its ease of purchase from barbers shops for a few pence, its ease of concealment (hidden inside a piece of cork), and its use as an instrument of intimidation and threatened or actual mutilation, physical impairment or murder against one's adversaries, prey or hostile spouses.[6] It has been estimated that there were over five hundred slashings within Sydney during the heyday of intensive razor gang criminal activity.[7] Macquarie Street's Sydney Hospital and St Vincent's Hospital, Sydney in Darlinghurst treated many of these casualties of gangland hostilities.

Members of the New South Wales Police and several New South Wales politicians also had connections to the gangs. The two major razor gangs were associated with prominent madamsKate Leigh (Queen of Surry Hills) and Tilly Devine; (Queen of Darlinghurst and Woolloomooloo).[8] These two gangs began open warfare in 1929, culminating in two riots. One was known as the "Battle of Blood Alley" and was waged in Eaton Avenue, King's Cross. It occurred because drug distributors discovered that Phil Jeffs (1896–1945), another ganglord, was adulterating his cocaine supply with boracic acid. It occurred on May 7, 1929.[9] Later that year, on August 8, 1929, the "Battle of Kellett Street" was waged between rival gangs affiliated with Kate Leigh and Tilly Devine and occurred in Kellett Street, near King's Cross. Considerable amounts of bootleg alcohol and cocaine were consumed beforehand, leading to thrown bottles, physical assaults, firearm exchanges and razor attacks.[10]

The gang violence was curtailed in the 1930s by the Vagrancy Amendment Act NSW 1929. It contained "criminal consorting" clauses which prevented known criminals from associating with one other and led to diminished gang violence. At the same time, the Crimes Amendment Act 1930 was also passed, leading to six-month imprisonment terms for anyone found possessing cutthroat razors without good reason.[11][12][13]

In 1935, newly appointed Sydney Police Commissioner MacKay summoned the feuding Devine and Leigh to his office. While he would not vigorously enforce anti-bootleg and anti-prostitution laws, he announced that the new police powers granted to his constabulary would be used against both women and their criminal enterprises unless there was immediate mitigation of gang violence and cocaine distribution.[14] They did so, which left the New South Wales State Police able to concentrate their attention on the illicit cocaine trade in 1938/39. Following intensive policing of overseas supply routes, the cocaine trade finally began to ebb.[15]

With the onset of the Second World War, gang figures enlisted and went to fight in the European and Pacific theatres of that conflict. Even the arrival of US service personnel did not reinvigorate the Leigh and Devine criminal empires, which now faced competition.[15] With these events, the "razor gang" era drew to a close.

 

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I have a couple of white aboriginals , married into my tribe.

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I haven't heard of the gun laws of 1920 PT.    When was it repealed.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Gotta hate them Christians, who gave you the freedom to hate them.

... and that puts a full stop on that.Clap
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

1920's Sydney Razor Gangs were big. 


True

Not quite 100 years ago! ... there was hardly a Muslim to be seen back then, even in the Middle east ...
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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I recall my mother taking us kids for a walk around the block after dark in summer. pre war ( she had 10 children ).
Safety was never a concern .
A small fist fight outside a pub made headlines.

Even today the crim code is deadly on crime involving children.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

1920's Sydney Razor Gangs were big. 




The sly grog & SP operators fighting among themselves over territory.

I think the General Public were quite safe.

Your Bikies were like that once.

Came about because of tough gun laws. Life in prison for carrying a gun, death for using it. So crooks used knives instead.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

1920's Sydney Razor Gangs were big. 




The sly grog & SP operators fighting among themselves over territory.

I think the General Public were quite safe.

Your Bikies were like that once.
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I lived in London 1979 to 1984.  It was the most amazing place.  I just loved it.   Get out and about was so easy .   So many places to go, and see, and explore,   And do.  A seething mass of humanity and everyone happy and cohesive. 
Went back in 2011 and 2012.    OMG.   What a gelati hole of a place it was.
Spot the Anglo.    If you could find one you were a champion.   And down in the counties the lovely old English pubs were being taken over by the Polish, and most of them could neither speak or understand the english language,,,,which made for a few dramas. 
Village stores were all being run by Pakis,,,,
Oh well,,,carry on,,,call me racist.
But the great old englsih traditions were lost /taken over , and the traditions of the villages were being lost.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Mate, you were the one talking about religions being "founded". Like to skip bits?

Yes...
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Mate, you were the one talking about religions being "founded". Like to skip bits?
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

All those people in the Christian middle ages had the "right" not to believe? You can't be serious.

The middle ages?
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All those people in the Christian middle ages had the "right" not to believe? You can't be serious.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Gotta hate them Christians, who gave you the freedom to hate them.

Christians did not give us freedom, society evolved and people woke up to the  control of power hungry churches.

I agree with that.
Society woke up.
The churches committed too many crimes.
All forms of extremism are bad.
The first thing religions do, is tell you that you are a sinner, and the only way to be better, is through fear, and through their religion.
People woke up to the con.
Religions hijack the idea of "God", and turn it into a "brand".

I always say, church is a lovely place to sit in solace to think and pray, until the priest starts talking and ruins it all.
These days I go to parks, mountains, rivers.

Buddhism is just as F#cked, dont worry about that. They are all questionable.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Once again you miss the point. If you try to find only virtues in the religions you like, and evil in the religions you don't, history will subvert you time and again.

I think you're saying the same as whale after you. Just No. Wrong. Chistianity formed the very views you hold sacred, and the right to believe in them. Look it up.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Gotta hate them Christians, who gave you the freedom to hate them.

Christians did not give us freedom, society evolved and people woke up to the  control of power hungry churches.
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Once again you miss the point. If you try to find only virtues in the religions you like, and evil in the religions you don't, history will subvert you time and again.
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Gotta hate them Christians, who gave you the freedom to hate them.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Christian colonialism is a myth apparently.

History tells us, time and againConfused
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Sudanese Islamic terrorist attack on Melbourne.Shocked

Sudanese muslim nutter acts out.

Somali I believe
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Christian colonialism is a myth apparently.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Christianity didn't spread (the Americas, the subcontinent, Africa) by violence? Ho-ho.

It spread long before it became a political force.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Most Sudanese in Australia are Christian. This one may well turn out to be Muslim...but on a day where a white Christian slaughtered 12 of his fellow Americans..well, I wouldn't be blaming religion on either of them.

Agree to a point, but one is a religion founded on and spread by violence. The other is the opposite.


Which is which?

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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Most Sudanese in Australia are Christian. This one may well turn out to be Muslim...but on a day where a white Christian slaughtered 12 of his fellow Americans..well, I wouldn't be blaming religion on either of them.

Agree to a point, but one is a religion founded on and spread by violence. The other is the opposite.

Which is which?
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Christianity didn't spread (the Americas, the subcontinent, Africa) by violence? Ho-ho.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Most Sudanese in Australia are Christian. This one may well turn out to be Muslim...but on a day where a white Christian slaughtered 12 of his fellow Americans..well, I wouldn't be blaming religion on either of them.

Agree to a point, but one is a religion founded on and spread by violence. The other is the opposite.
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