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Originally posted by Cupper Cupper wrote:

Until today I was thinking he would be saved for the Melbourne cup, then finally I was convinced he was running in CC so placed a bit of a "saver" bet on him...... Probably the quickest loss I've ever had!!

So did I, and so did many of my mates. I even said this morning to some I'd wait until after barrier draws. But no, too impatient. Happier its out though. It was a legit threat to others I got running for more. You're probably in the same boat I assume.
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Basically exactly the same thing here. I'm only on KWD but Yucatan was the only one that's really jumped out as a good chance beating it. Obviously lots of others are a chance but I can't pin point any others to have a saver on.
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Hasn't Lloyd got half of The Cliffs of Moher?

No reason he can not win both cups now, as I had Cliffs in front of him anyway.
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Are there provisions for late entries into the Cox Plate ?
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Yes.... for a fee..

Fee $200,000 Any horse which has not previously been nominated or for which nomination or acceptance has lapsed, may be entered before 12 Noon on Monday, 22 October, 2018.
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Williams says all in punters are stupid.Big smile
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If you're backing a Williams horse in the CC when it's a favourite for the MC, then I agree with him.
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Punters obviously can not trust the media spokesman for the nations biggest bookie - 
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I'm so sick of Lloyd Williams crap.
He's done significant damage to the Caulfield Cup and Cox Plate.
Bigger lollipop than his son.
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Hasnt Yucatan done some damage and been scratched ?   Or have I mixed it up and got the wrong horse ?
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Punters obviously can not trust the media spokesman for the nations biggest bookie - 


That is shocking news.
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No damage AA just Lloyd scratching him after telling everyone a few hours earlier that he was running
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Ohhh, OK.  Thought I heard them say something about a leg.   DerrrrrrEmbarrassed  Thanks.

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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Ohhh, OK.  Thought I heard them say something about a leg.   DerrrrrrEmbarrassed  Thanks.



That was one of the Godolphin runners.
They have had three with leg injuries since arriving here 2 weeks ago.
1 had to be put to sleep.
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Similar parallels to AMRALAH. 

Bolts the Herbert Power in, tells everyone its spot on for the Caulfield Cup, and then scratches. 

That plan fell apart when the pain killers they were filling Amralah up with didn't wear off before the Melbourne Cup and he was scratched on the Saturday before. Didn't tell anyone before hand, and lost an Adelaide win as a result, as he tested positive in that as well...
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Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

If you're backing a Williams horse in the CC when it's a favourite for the MC, then I agree with him.

Lloyd probable means they are stupid compared to him. 😂
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Ohhh, OK.  Thought I heard them say something about a leg.   DerrrrrrEmbarrassed  Thanks.



That was one of the Godolphin runners.
They have had three with leg injuries since arriving here 2 weeks ago.
1 had to be put to sleep.


Which one, Shawy ??
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Ohhh, OK.  Thought I heard them say something about a leg.   DerrrrrrEmbarrassed  Thanks.



That was one of the Godolphin runners.
They have had three with leg injuries since arriving here 2 weeks ago.
1 had to be put to sleep.


Which one, Shawy ??


Hamada was put down
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If people wait till final field before having a bet they wouldn’t have any issue.
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I can see the value of backing Yucatan at $67 in CC early and hoping for the best but what was the point of backing him at $4.50 after his Hotham win but before CC acceptances? What's that about? I don't get it.
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That win was something else but they rarely if ever back it up the next week... Punters generally get left scratching their heads saying "WTF was that?"
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For those interested.

Yucutan was rated 123 by Timeform for the Herbert Powwr win.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

For those interested.

Yucutan was rated 123 by Timeform for the Herbert Powwr win.


Is it correct that prior to the race, Yucatan was rated 114 by Timeform?
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Originally posted by Grey Affair Grey Affair wrote:

Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

For those interested.

Yucutan was rated 123 by Timeform for the Herbert Powwr win.


Is it correct that prior to the race, Yucatan was rated 114 by Timeform?




Yes that is correct.

Before Herbert Power win: 114 (Timeform)

After Herbert Power win: 123 (Timeform)
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Does anyone think there was anything in the Caulfield Cup that will trouble him? I didn't see it.
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I'm convinced Yucatan would have been a moral in the Caulfield Cup if he backed up well enough to hold his form.

Lloyd has really done alot of damage to the Caulfield Cup by bypassing it with the likely winner on multiple occasions.

What was the point of making it a 5 million dollar race? pointless.
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The 2 miles will trouble him.
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He could have nearly jogged another 800m the other day and still won. Hard to see two miles stopping him after that win.
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For those interested....Timeform gave Yucutan a rating of 123 for the Herbert Power win.

Its the highest rating for a Herbert Power winner in years and years and as i said last week - the best Herbert Power win I have seen in years.

To put things in perspective...the last horse to do the Herbert Power/Melbourne Cup double was WA's Rogan Josh and he rated 113 for his Herbert Power win in 1999.

Based on that and based on Yucutan-s Herbert Power win...you would have to say that Yucutan is a big chance in the Melbourne Cup. Only question is if he can run the 3200m which in Rogan Josh's case - he had already seen the 3200m prior..in the Perth Cup on New Year's Day in 1999.
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Looked too good to be true. If he reproduces that in the MC, good luck beating him.
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