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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 7:23pm |
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I've seen Cox Plates with weaker fields than this. |
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VOYAGER
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Certainly the two internationals add value here.
However the four year olds add interest and Humidor and Homespun are the locally trained ones with Tosen Basil a hope and Nights Watch a hope on his Dato run. Very intriguing race! |
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jacko1
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Unforgotten should get a cozy run and with the decent tempo will be finishing well. Tough race to sort out.
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Nick
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D'argento and Unforgotten are far too classy!
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Tlazolteotl
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They couldn't beat Hartnell in a handicap. Why will they beat the gay deceiver but also second best wfa horse in Australia- Humidor- at wfa?
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Speediskey
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Because as proven last start and by the many starts he's had at Caulfield, he hates it.
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Tlazolteotl
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I don't know- I just have my doubts that the Epsom form is wfa form. Cummings is running Hartnell in a handicap with 59kg rather than this wfa race- what's that about? Does Cummings agree with me?
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djebel
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Because a switched on Hartnell is outstanding. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Cummjngs could be looking at the big handicap mile triple crown. What an achievement that would be for Hartnell. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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JudgeHolden
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He won the Memsie, arguably should have won the Underwood. I’m a bit with Tlaz here. Hartnell was beaten WFA by Nights Watch and Homesman, then gave them all weight in the Epsom and a beating. But it’s the Epsom horses who have been backed. I think the market has decided that Hartnell wound the clock back a couple of years with that Epsom run, or that Unfogotten and D’Argento will be much better at 2000m. Maybe both. Don’t get me wrong, I think Wallers pair are excellent chances, but surprised in the price differential to some of these others. Anyway, the markets usually smarter than me, and should be a cracking race. |
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SHOVHOG
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One of wallers pair will win. 2000m is more in their wheelhouse. Dargento is looking for this distance now and I'd be surprised if one of them didn't win. In fact take it to the bank.
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" In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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scamanda
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I tend to agree with you. Unless one of those jet setting Godolphin runners produces a big one Waller has this race sown up. Blair House was outstanding in his Australian debut. He's the one I'd be worried about.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Tlazolteotl
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I could never figure out where the Unforgotten boom was coming from.
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Second Chance
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Perhaps her Oaks win? Maybe her Chelmsford win also? Even her Epsom third?
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JudgeHolden
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Well I was half right. People will keeping backing our Spring 4yos to beat these internationals/imports. They’re simply too good. Just shows what an anomaly Winx is. |
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the miz
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That's why CJW preachers patience. There is always an exception but usually give them time. Saying that Youngstar wins the CC
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JudgeHolden
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Not quite my point, miz. None of Waller's have gone on to do to much at middle distance/staying events at the pointy end of the Spring carnival, except Winx. Who's his second best horse, in the time he's been training here? Our horses are complete spuds. Youngstar looks promising but there's no way in the world she could have done what Yucatan did today.
It'll happen from time to time that one of our own horses will win a big staying event over here. I think that's the best we can hope for. Call it a fluke.
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