2018 G1 Caulfield Cup 2400m

Great run VENTURA STORM too... He was 2nd last and ate up the ground into 5th or 6th. Am hoping he goes onto the Melbourne Cup??

Williams slaughter on fave

You just have to love how the international horses come to Australia and win our staying races. Once again its alarm bells and the Cups King Bart Cummings said it years and years ago and that was...the lack if quality Aussie stayers. I guess thats what happenes when Australia becomes obsseased with speed...in my opinion its alarm bells. But all credit to the winner...the supreme stayer in the race and to win with top weight of 57.5kg is a great effort. These stayers from Europe - quality in numbers..their depth is brilliant.

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Afros wrote: Gee the way they walked mid race nothing out the back stood a chance, J Mac at least showed some initiative on the Taj Mahal. Well dne still to the winner he was still strong on the line.

WarriSymbol wrote: How did these Japanese runners even get enough weight to make the field? 16 black type runs between them for ZERO wins.

Breeding Above All wrote: Japanese horses will run well.. they’re far superior.. I like Ace High EW

The only ones the Japanese horses beat home were either Aust. or NZ bred.
Both beaten around 11 lengths.

They've now had 18 black type runs between them for ZERO wins.
So, don't blame the softish track.

Heavenly Glow wrote: Afros wrote: Gee the way they walked mid race nothing out the back stood a chance, J Mac at least showed some initiative on the Taj Mahal. Well dne still to the winner he was still strong on the line. Braindead jockey's. I would like to of seen Youngstar ridden like Thinking Big. High Chap's both of them, take em forward and get rolling at the 800m mark. Frustrating.  Credit to the internationals and their trainers though. Post Winx our Spring is theirs to do as they want with it. We are too focused on 2 year old squibs.

It amazes me how often you see these staying races where they do these 13-14 second furlongs and the blokes on the horses out back just twiddle their thumbs hoping someone else does it, J Mac tried the Yucatan ride again but the ones at the front better then what Yucatan had to beat.

I was on Homesman but take nothing away from the winner, way to tough and strong. 2 miles won't worry him, could be a chance to do the double?

VOYAGER wrote: I agree Glow, but the Golden Slipper is our best race, just ask Snowden, Portelli and Waterhouse It just goes to show that any breeders, trainers or syndicators, should have no say in what the racing industry does or how it manages its product, but alas, that is wishful thinking.

Is there any other industry on the planet that makes so much money despite producing such manifestly dismal results as the Australian breeding industry? I’m struggling to think of one.

The stakes and the fact they face vastly inferior horses. They must be laughing at us.

JudgeHolden wrote: The stakes and the fact they face vastly inferior horses. They must be laughing at us.

Rachel Alexandra may not be the best example but hopefully you get the gist of what I mean.
Are the Europeans vastly superior on Turf everywhere is what I’m asking I suppose?
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Cheers thank you 👍

JudgeHolden wrote: Softy wrote: Rachel Alexandra may not be the best example but hopefully you get the gist of what I mean. Are the Europeans vastly superior on Turf everywhere is what I’m asking I suppose? 😊 When I first started following racing our horses were winning Japan Cups. BLU beat some well credentialed Euros. Even a little over a decade ago horses like Elvestroem, Haradasun and Mummify (very good horses, but no superstars)were winning international races at a mile and beyond against quality Euros. The wheels have fallen off spectacularly.

So You Think won five G1s overseas. Sunline won overses too.

But our best middle distance (apart from Winx if she travelled) horses and stayers run overseas and dont do well.

Yet overseas horses come here and win races.

...from an Irish sire

TOLEDO wrote: Unfortunately all this does is weaken Winx formlines.

Yep

The best horse Winx ever beat was Highland Reel, when his jockey inexplicably left the rail on the most dynamite rails biased tracks I've ever seen. There's no doubting her quality, but she's been beating up on complete and utter spuds.