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2018 G1 Caulfield Cup 2400m |
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maccamax
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Kings Will Dream put an extra K on his back to 53 on Saturday. How do they beat him with the 5K drop in the weights .
Keep in mind his sensational time to win over 2400m ( 2.28.67 )on a slow track in Mornington Cup. 5L The Turnbull had several great runs against the sectionals Saturday. Winx was bluddy lucky to get out in time. The Youngstar run was Cups material too. Placed to WINX is the best form you can get ( especially for the big R'dwick miles aye.) |
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Heavenly Glow
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I don't make a lot of his run. I think it was a solid run, but he was fading going to the line. Youngstar was actually pulling away from that field on the line. We saw a horse step up and try go with Winx when challenged. It was a gallant effort by Youngstar. She is very tough. I think she wins the Caulfield Cup fairly well. She will be suited over 2400m and further. Very special horse and is being overlooked right now because of how great a performance Winx was.
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Speediskey
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You need to stop looking at it like fading and more like not having the top speed they had. The horses were running the quickest sectionals of the race at the end. It will be completely different in a race like the Caulfield Cup with some modicum of pressure.
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maccamax
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Given the sectionals , the first two's runs were sensational.
I erred early , Kings Will Dream drops 3.5K. Great example of how horses need to get the breaks . Only the greatest middle distance galloper of my time , could have won that Race from where she was , inside the 800m. I HOPE THE WORLD TOOK NOTE. |
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VOYAGER
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Charlie Appleby's Emotionless, an unlikely runner due to lameness.
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Redemption
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Anyone know the likely field at this stage?
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3blindmice
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Acceptances and OOE are linked here:
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Redemption
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Any thoughts on Chestnut Coat?
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djebel
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Too slow
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reductio ad absurdum
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Redemption
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Lol, why? On average its priced around $4.5, and barely finishes 3 lengths off them, or wins. But I guess Japan had had some quakes and typhoons recently. Could be a factor.
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Kingy
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LORD FANDANGO for me. He'll win or go very close on Saturday and be peaking 3rd up for this. You can still get $61 now. Well worth a ticket imo (if he gets in obviously).
Of the others, HOMESMAN and THE TAJ MAHAL look nice types. I'm on YOUNGSTAR for the MELBOURNE CUP. TOSEN BASIL's definitely one to keep an eye out for.
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Shawy38
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The following horses are not running at this stage according to racing.com
- Unforgotten - Harlem - Tosen Basil - Emotionless - Egg Tart |
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It says TB 50/50
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Prince Harada
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If Tosen Basil is out then
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goldey
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Agree with your top rated.
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So now with the final decision to not run Yucatan. What are everyone's thoughts on the race? I've been a big supporter of KWD for a long while and see no reason to jump off. Youngstar the obvious danger but reasonably confident KWD can turn the tables.
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Bonfield
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I agree with you Cupper. KWD from Youngstar. But no surprises there as these two are the favourites.
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Dr E
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I'm with you Cupper!... KWD from Youngstar ... Cliffs of Moher did enough to be considerred and the Japanese horses always attract my attention - Chestnut Coat will be in my exotics. The rest are a dartboard job of chances really ... wont leave any Waller or Weir runners out either!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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VOYAGER
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So if I am reading this right we all like Youngstar, but the 4yo male in Ac High is no hope.
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Bonfield
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KWD has only been marking time his last three runs. He hasn't gone forward since his first up run. However I think Weir has just been keeping him ticking over. Expect him to go to another level in the main target race.
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COM is my bet of the day. Will load up if can get 10/1.
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Breeding Above All
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I give Youngstar 0 chance to win.. Against the big boys no hope
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Dr E
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I like him a lot, very honest, a winner too, has come back well, def in the mix, but the other two just seems too well weighted ... barrier draw could change things too.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Heavenly Glow
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I like Youngstar. Her QLD Derby run had CC/MC written all over it. She improved every run last prep and improved as distances increased. Her last run behind Winx, where she went with the champion near the line is being massively underrated. The market hasn't underrated her though. I think she wins. She may even win very easily.
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Breeding Above All
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Why are people tipping Lloyd Horses too? Haven’t we learnt that if they are Melbourne Cup entries and can run the 3200, this is just a warm up.. he doesn’t want the penalty, proven once again with Yucatan bypass
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Mr Grieves
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I think that may or may not apply for the Macedon Lodge horses but I'd be shocked if Cliffs Of Moher wasn't wound up and there to win. He ticks every box for mine, perfect lead up on Saturday. Clear top pick.
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Your right Grieves.
O'Brien could not care less who Lloyd is, if COM is at the barriers on saturday, it was because the race was always on his agenda, the man from Ballydoyle always sticks with plan a. |
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Afros
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Was Fawkner already holding a MC slot the year he won the CC? But in general you are right, he generally uses this to get them in for Flemington like he did with Green Moon the year he ran 2nd in it. |
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Shawy38
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Patrick Erin and Jaameh the two emergencies
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