Avilius

Looks like this guy will be back in action in the autumn as he’s been nommed for the Australian Cup 2000m. It’s then 3 weeks into the Tancred Stks 2400m.

They’re the 2 G1 races I’d aim him at anyway.

He dodged 2 very winnable G1’s (Metrop Hcp & Caulfield Cup) last spring, hopefully can make amends this autumn.

Awesome return 

Another terrific run by this guy and will have to be a hot fave for the Australian Cup now.

Then hopefully onto Sydney for the Tancred Stks & if he’s dominant in that, then why not have a crack at Winx in the QE Stks.

Easily the second best, injuries or not he would be.. he’s a star

Avilius did come 2nd to Cracksman in Europe. He is a genuine top class horse just short of world class. He is a great measuring stick for our horses who are all failing dismally apart from a few exceptions.

Avilius is the measuring stick of abysmal. If Cracksman can beat him by 4 lengths over 2000m then anything he beats is far inferior. 

Was found out at decent weight last year.

He's a handicapper that might beat some rubbish like today.

Will not win another G1.

ChrisB wrote: Was found out at decent weight last year. He's a handicapper that might beat some rubbish like today. Will not win another G1.

Can you explain your bizzare comments Chris B?

1) How was he “found out at a decent weight last year”?

2) Why do you think Trap For Fools & Ace High are rubbish?

3) If you think Avilius is not going to win a G1, then what’s your tip for the Aust Cup?

Fair enough Judge, I agree TFF & AH are not superstars, but both do have major G1 wins on their CV’s.

I do also realise that we’re unlikely to ever see the awesomeness of the WFA battles of yesteryear. Bona fide superstars going into battle against each other is a thing of the past. In my early years it was Vo Rouge & Super & BLU. Then came the Saintly, Filante, Occy era and then onto the Northerly, Lohnro, Sunline period.

All these horses would eat the current era of WFA horses for breakfast (except Winx, maybe).

But I’ve been on the Avilius ride for most of his Aussie runs & I think he’ll keep powering on this campaign

Filante's Epsom win from an outside barrier with top weight was breathtaking. Wish I could find a video.

Filante - 2nd in both Cox Plate attempts.

But how about the 1996 Cox Plate - top 5 placegetters were: Saintly, Filante, All Our Mob, Juggler & Octagonal - they had 24 G1 wins between them ranging from 1200m to 3200m.

JudgeHolden wrote: That's what I'm saying. From a ratings perspective, I'd imagine horses like SAL, Redzel and IHT are superior. Avilius is still a G1 maiden. That may change in two weeks but our sprinters are at least competing against semi decent horses.

Our sprinters are atrocious at the moment.

djebel wrote: JudgeHolden wrote: That's what I'm saying. From a ratings perspective, I'd imagine horses like SAL, Redzel and IHT are superior. Avilius is still a G1 maiden. That may change in two weeks but our sprinters are at least competing against semi decent horses. Our sprinters are atrocious at the moment.

    We had one today run the fastest Oakleigh Plate EVER ..
        That's not atrocious.
Not a good idea to start comparing past Gallopers with present ones as the "clock" will usually prove you wrong .
We had one who placed in our last Newmarket , cleaned them up at Ascot.
   

djebel wrote: Avilius was on a continual upward spiral in Europe. Will be interesting to see how Finche and Eminent go down here. Do not underate his European form. He was well on his way to the top.

AdaHunta   Champion      Joined: 07 Nov 2016  Status: Online  Points: 1895	Post Options     Thanks(1)     Quote  Reply Posted: 17 Jul 2018 at 1:29am
	Avilius ~ 4yo Godolphin import lightly raced only the 7 starts overseas had his first trial after 40+ weeks off the scene at Rosehill over 904m last week and looks in very good order was a sharp piece of work just idling along out the back only 3.3L away  Like the look of this horse and definitely one to follow !!
Lord Hybrow   Champion      Joined: 05 Jul 2015  Location: Australia  Status: Offline  Points: 2120	Post Options     Thanks(1)     Quote  Reply Posted: 17 Jul 2018 at 3:11pm
	Thanks for the tip off on Avilius. Hmm, 2nd over 2400m to Cracksman as a 3yo in France