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Bonfield
Champion Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Status: Offline Points: 10291 |
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Absolutely. He performed well in G2 races in Europe so why was he rated so low?
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Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Confirmed going Kingstown Town then Metrop. If he wins Metrop then Caulfield Cup.
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18699 |
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Well that is my Melbourne Cup bet out.
If they think he is a wfa horse for next year, he pulls up stumps after Caulfield. |
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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54 kgs for The Metropolitan.
4 over the limit and 4 under the top weight. Nice.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Bodes well for all us pre post punters at 8.00++
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Will go up ~1kg after winning the Kingston Town Stakes this week though.
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Heavenly Glow
Champion Joined: 25 Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1569 |
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Massive today. Going to be hard to beat in the Caulfield Cup.
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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Bring on the Metropolitan for this guy
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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He's good.
The sectionals will be interesting for this race. He got back on the rail () and somehow the heavens opened up for him in the straight and he gave them no hope. Metrop next and if he goes as well in Melbourne the Caul Cup is not beyond him. |
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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James is undecided re Metropolitan
Could be coming to Melbourne for the Bart Cummings |
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Lord Hybrow
Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6643 |
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I hope he does stay in Sydney for the Metropolitan Hcp. But James Cummings just surprisingly mentioned the Bart Cummings Stks at Flemington as another option. I wouldn’t be suprised if Goldolphin totally deviate from the original target race. Who knows, he might end up in a Turnbull Stks!! |
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Gee Gee
Champion Joined: 31 Aug 2009 Status: Offline Points: 8300 |
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Best horse inthe stable
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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Does it get him into the Melbourne Cup without a penalty ? I know it is a ballot free race for the Cup. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Lord Hybrow
Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6643 |
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The Turnbull Stks is penalty free & ballot free for the Melb Cup.
Whereas if he happened to win both the Metropolitan & Caulfield Cup double, he’s likely attract weight penalties of 1kg & 2kg respectively. That would take his Melb Cup weight from current 53kg up to a heftier 56kg. |
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mikey
Champion Joined: 01 Nov 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 511 |
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Lol. The Turnbull Stakes is also the target of a pony called Winx. He might be flying, have untapped potential etc but they wont pin their hopes of him getting entry to a target race by beating Winx.
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Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Ballot free for Winx? |
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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If you've won the Metropolitan and Caulfield Cup who cares! He would've earnt the weight anyway.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Exactly. Has the metrop at his mercy should just go there then caulfield cup.
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Beadman has suggested that the metrop will be his next race this morning due to the 54kg without penalty.
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djebel
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Apparently out of the Metro.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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Will be on a float to Melbourne
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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21698 |
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Got too much money has the blue team , they have foresaken the substance for the shadow, would have won the Metrop. on his ear and guaranteed a MC start imo, the last 67 Metrop. winners and placegetters are riddled with MC winners, now down the h/way reverse way form for the BC will come from all angles seeking a start as well, not the first time they pulled the wrong reign imo Hartnell in the Cox P. as against the CC, on Saturday with Kementari they knew the weather was going to be filthy and the WFA very strong so they ignored the weaker Sydney WFA , good weather and taking out the champ they could have run Second ( giving him an easy time) dropping 3kg in 14 days for an Epsom run even though D'Argent is weighted to win, nothing's guaranteed , however this is Avilious's thread , a future topliner and a Melbourne Cup is not beyond him where ever he goes.
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Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Disatrous move. Will have trained off by then imo. Wont be winning any Group 1s.
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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21698 |
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And I might add I feel for the punters who took this horse in Multies and pre-post metrop.betting, dudded again !
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45319 |
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Bump.
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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You got that he would in Melbourne part bit right.
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45319 |
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Almost not to mention getting the "earlier" bit right also.
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Heavenly Glow
Champion Joined: 25 Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1569 |
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The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want to get penalised for a Metrop win going into the Caulfield Cup and also get penalised for the Caulfield Cup (should they win it) going into the Melbourne Cup. It makes more sense to guarantee a start in the MC by winning the Bart Cummings (which I assume doesn't carry a weight penalty), then rolling the dice in the CC where the horse will be penalised for the Melbourne Cup if it won, but that is a good 5 million dollar problem to have. And it would only result in one penalty.
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Sorry missed it
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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21698 |
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The Metrop. field is very ordinary imo this year and I doubt very much had he won with 54kg the handicapper would give it much significance even though he has 53kg in the CC, what I'm trying to say is this, the Bart Cummings will have plenty of o/s form from all over the place and he could bump into a real rod in the pickle if you get my drift, wins the Metrop.all problems eliminated imo.
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