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    Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 1:25pm
Very talented rising 4yo mare.

Trialled like a bomb this morning. Super Too wouldn't often get beaten in an 800m trial. She strung them out, Invincible Star sat a couple off her, and in the last 100m she dove through and nailed her under a hold.

It was just what you want to see and I took some of the $26 in the Moir Stakes with Sportsbet off that. Not confirmed but that's the plan in the hope she can win and gain an Everest slot.

She flies the Melbourne way and her form of last spring is genuine G1.
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Same family as Condor Heroes.


INVINCIBLE STAR (AUS)		Brown filly 2014 
I Am Invincible
Bay 2004		Invincible Spirit
Bay 1997		Green Desert
Bay 1983		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		1961
1968		2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979		Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee		1965
1968		8-g
A4
Rafha
Bay 1987		Kris
Chestnut 1976		Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure		1969
1971		5-i
2-o
Eljazzi
Bay 1981		Artaius
Border Bounty		1974
1965		14-c
7-a
Cannarelle
Bay 1998		Canny Lad
Brown 1987		Bletchingly
Brown 1970		Biscay
Coogee		1965
1959		2-o
7-a
Jesmond Lass
Chestnut 1975		Lunchtime
Beautiful Dreamer		1970
1967		7-f
14>
Countess Pedrille
Bay 1994		Zoffany
Bay 1980		Our Native
Grey Dawn Girl		1970
1970		20-a
1-n
Sister Pedrille
Chestnut 1980		Cardinal
Royal Law		1969
1975		2-s
1-n
Romany Flyer
Bay 2004		Catbird
Bay 1996		Danehill
Bay 1986		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		1961
1968		2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981		His Majesty
Spring Adieu		1968
1974		4-d
2-d
Fitting
Bay 1990		Marscay
Chestnut 1979		Biscay
Heart of Market		1965
1967		2-o
4-m
Corn
Brown 1976		Hotfoot
Donna Nook		1966
1972		1-w
14-c
Gypsy Dollar
Brown 1997		Zabeel
Bay 1986		Sir Tristram
Bay 1971		Sir Ivor
Isolt		1965
1961		8-g
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982		Nureyev
Valderna		1977
1972		5-h
16-c
Queen Gypsy
Bay 1979		Planet Kingdom
Chestnut 1967		Star Kingdom
Lilting		1946
1960		1-g
2-r
Gypsy Moss
Bay 1966		Mossborough
Bedecked		1947
1955		6-e
1-n
 Ancestor duplications:Danzig4m x 4m Sir Ivor5f x 5m Biscay5m x 5m
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Just watched the trial on the SG thread. Very nice.

I didn't read it initially but Racenet's spring focus GaiBot article confirms your comment Sunline:

INVINCIBLE STAR
"She got pipped on the post in the Coolmore Stud Stakes last spring.
"She’s back and going well, about a month off trialling.
"We would love to try to get her into The Everest. She’s a real speed filly and her form has stood up.
"She may target a race like the Moir Stakes first-up at Moonee Valley. She’s done well in Melbourne in the past.
"Winning a race like the Moir would put her on the radar for The Everest if there’s still some slots available."
The Everest ($61), Moir Stakes ($26)
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Am totally amazed they'd be asking her to go 45.63 secs in her first public trial eight months after her last run and three months before the Everest.Confused

Then again I don't have Gai's credentials.  
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Been following this miss from the sales.  Same family as Merchant Navy also Djebel.  This is the 1-n family of I am Invincible also that's why I marked her to follow.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Am totally amazed they'd be asking her to go 45.63 secs in her first public trial eight months after her last run and three months before the Everest.Confused

Then again I don't have Gai's credentials.  

I said all of the above to myself as well, including the part where she has forgotten more Group 1 wins than I have backed.
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I might be concerned if she was running next week but it's  a long time to the Moir. It was only 800m and she looked to do it comfortably against a flyer. Augurs well for the spring imo.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Been following this miss from the sales.  Same family as Merchant Navy also Djebel.  This is the 1-n family of I am Invincible also that's why I marked her to follow.<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;">


What does 1-n mean?

Interested breeding novice.
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If you are a breeding novice then you may find this neat Wiki entry useful. 
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Long Row they are numbers used to keep track of female lines.  The 1-n decend from a great mare called Chelandry (the second dam of Heroic etc).  Now they have been muddied by breeders sometimes not telling the truth in the past (before blood typing) but they still help in finding lines you want to use.

For instance I have two favourite lines.  The 13a and the 1n.  Have others I follow and like but these are my favourites.  The 1n family include horses like High Chaparral, I am Invincible, Merchant Navy, Zeditave, Heroic, Magpie, Just a Dash, Rose Archway, Anabaa, Flight, Sky High, Innocent King, Americain etc.  You get sprinters, stayers, milers etc.  So a prolific line which delivers.

The 13a cross well to the 1n line.  The 13a line of Juliet produced So You Think to that cross.  While She Will Reign and Impending also from the 13a line of Juliet have crossed to a mix of 13c (a line decending through her dam's 1/2 sister) Mr Prospector and the 5h family of Special (through Nureyev and Fairy Bridge).
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Thanks a lot, very interesting
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Sportsbet went $26 to $16 an hour or so ago. Hope some of you got a piece.
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Lol. They let me on for a whole $40. They are pathetic, along with WillHill.
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William Hill is a joke, but Sportsbet isn't much better. You need mates' accounts, 3BM.
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Wow, $40 3bm, I tried to have $20 on and I got the dreaded bet exceeds max allowed.

They let me on for a whole $1.60

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$1.60? Outstanding Dillwar. They stood to lose $40 on a race weeks away. Perhaps the CEO would take $3.20? 
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/paddy-power-betfair-to-pay-new-boss-825k-plus-bonuses-1.3449566

Rarely bet with SB so I'd forgotten how pathetic they were. Now remember I went through the same process last time - deposit, try to bet, get a paltry amount accepted, get p'd off, try to withdraw, get the standard SB withdrawal block (and the rote turnover spiel), contact them to fix their block (they never argue because they know their "rule" is misleading bs, very likely illegal), empty my account. 
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$16 now top odds. $12 everywhere else.
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Good call Sunny.
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