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monty1
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Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 7:54pm |
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Can’t wait till next Monday when the Aquacheaters expose is on 4 corners. I hope a couple of the other cheating trainers who luckily escaped are exposed.
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skippy123
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I believe the focus is more on the investigators versus those being investigated
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focus3
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Well go orn skip elaborate. R U saying RV hasn't properly investigated? That the Aqua hierarchy hasn't faced the music? Or that the old RV sweep it under the carpet culture is alive and well? Say it isn't so.
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Gay3
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Off TrackOn the surface, Australia's racing industry has never been better. With a prize pool that's grown to more than $600 million it's one of the biggest industries in the country, employing more than 50,000 people. But away from the glamour all is not well in the sport of kings. 30 secs video. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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3blindmice
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Lol, nothing like hyperbole to drum up interest.
People are leaving this sport in droves." Horse Trainer (interesting definition of drove)
Die-hard racing identities are worried. (not enough to demand change and REAL action) "We all love our horses. But we seem to get knocked from pillar to post, one scandal after another." Thoroughbred Owner On Monday Four Corners examines the secrets and scandals in Australia's horse racing industry. "A scandal like this certainly does rank right up there. This is a big one." Racing commentator (unlike the Sam Lav et al doping scandal and the even bigger scandal in the red hots) In 2017 an astonishingly audacious doping conspiracy was uncovered. Five trainers and three stable hands were found guilty of taking part in Victoria's Aquanita doping scandal, but questions remain. "How anyone could look at this situation and say, well that's it, all done, we've got the guilty people, and move on, just has you shaking your head." Racing Industry analyst In the wake of the scandal, described as one of the darkest and longest chapters in the history of the sport, high profile racing figures are questioning how the sport is being policed. "How did this happen for so long, what processes were in place that failed the racing industry, failed punters, failed the horses?" Racing form analyst The damage done by the Aquanita doping conspiracy isn't the only problem facing the industry. The loss of high profile sponsors, the difficulty in attracting racegoers and concerns about animal cruelty have the racing fraternity on edge. "Once punters lose confidence in the sport the whole system breaks down because without punters racing doesn't exist, without owners who put on the show racing doesn't exist." Racing Commentator. |
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Isaac soloman
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hard to believe, with the record prices at sales.
industry participants cant be selling to themselves, alone. more likely the rspca trying to stay relevant. but they do need to keep the industry on its toes and transparent..
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linghi11
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The problem with ABC is that everything they do will be tilted left |
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to the victor
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3blindmice
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Lol. Deja vu all over again. Wrong again. I could give you numerous links but I'd be wasting both our time.
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Sneck
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The ABC is a left wing propaganda outlet.
Only a left winger would dispute this. |
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linghi11
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Exactly. Aquanita is a huge issue by itself - why does wastage need to come into this? |
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3blindmice
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I take the views of a conservative misogynist with appropriate regard. Let me guess - you know nothing about the makeup of the ABC board, and even less about the outcomes of 3 or 4 conservative induced enquiries into the supposed "bias"? But there are other TBV boards if you want to further display your ignorance.
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3blindmice
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Or did I misread you? Perhaps you were referring to the obvious anti-Labor " bias" in the Gillard days. They were of course doing their jobs. Pity they chose at the same time not to apply the same intense scrutiny to the mad monk as he presented himself as an alternative "leader".
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rusty nails
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What is wrong with you. Why can't you just argue your point without trying to disparage the person you disagree with? |
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3blindmice
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There's a lot wrong with me Rusty, likely even you.Which part didn't you like? The misogynist label presumably? His posts speak for themselves. If the cap fits, wear it.
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djebel
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No fair minded person believes this. They report the facts and tend not to sensationalise the trivial. Somebody else has added why should wastage be included, Well why shouldn't it ? I agree with yet somebody else, Perhaps racing is so on the nose it needs more than one 50 minute expose to cover half its issues. Wastage Corruption drugs welfare Cheap labour |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Air Seattle
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Lets not forget the last time 4 corners did an expose on t/bred racing. It focused on strippers, brothels & George Freeman. It provided nothing new except rehash old stuff.
Wouldn't be surprised if a similar occurred on Monday night. Afterall they've sought Racetrack Ralphy's view and we all know how well he's received here
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linghi11
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Because they always have loonies on when it comes to wastage - CPR and the like come up with bogus numbers and people believe them. They don’t do anything to help solve the problem. How long is Monday’s segment? Is there time to rehash this stuff we’re subjected to every spring carnival when there are some serious integrity matters which have waited a very long time to be exposed? |
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3blindmice
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The ABC is an imperfect organisation which makes errors of judgement from time to time. It's light years ahead of any private media concern. Surveys continually to give it trust, impartiality, accuracy etc numbers which private media can only dream of. Here's just one of many: https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7641-media-net-trust-june-2018-201806260239
Mention of wastage in a racing expose' is no indicator of supposed ABC left wing bias.
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Sneck
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How many people that work for the ABC are right wing?
How many of those right wingers are philosophically right wing and not just neo liberals? |
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3blindmice
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You haven't seen it linghi so why not wait until Monday and then get stuck in? Brissenden's no fool.
Wastage numbers may or may not be inaccurate - the industry is a long way from knowing the reality and although steps have been taken there's still long way to go as far as tracking and post-racing animal welfare goes. In a multi-billion dollar industry some would say it's tokenism.
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djebel
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The only thing that matters is they report the truth. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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linghi11
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Exactly. When the lady sensationally inquires; “where do the 8,500 adult horses a year go?” And she was part of the reasearch that actually detailed where they go, I just do not hold a lot of hope. The CPR types use old research and incredibly poor mathematics to come up with sensationalist clap trap. |
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djebel
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It says much for racing that they can not put this to bed. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Sneck
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And even if they reported the truth that's not good enough for the left so I'm going to hold them to their own standard. |
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Sneck
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JudgeHolden
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I also recall the last time 4 Corners did an expose on racing in general. That was the greyhound live baiting scandal, which bizarrely also had some in here complaining of “lefty” bias. |
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Discohips23
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3blindmice
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Your blind ideology is showing. Looked up the backgrounds of the ABC Board and the outcomes of those bias enquiries yet or are you afraid of the truth like most neocons?
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Sneck
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Got an equitable list of right wingers working for the ABC yet? |
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Sneck
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philosophically
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