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Gay3
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I have a couple of SA FB friends & attacks like this are occurring on an almost daily basis! No wonder so many want to immigrate here Daniel SutherlandWEEKEND SLAUGHTER : For weeks I have said that weekends have become open hunting season on whites in South Africa . I have shared all the stories of the murdered people . On Friday I asked if another bloody slaughter awaits us . Well, it was : 1 - The well known strawberry farmer Jeffrey Zetler , the owner of the
Mooiberge strawberry farm on the R44 between Stellenbosch and the Strand
was murdered on Saturday evening on his farm during an armed robbery .
He employed a 1000 people . Zetler's wife's birthday was also this
weekend . He was the victim of 5 previous armed robberies, so it is
unknown why the robbers decided to kill him this time . A white Toyota Quantum followed Zetler when he dropped workers . He was blocked at his farmgate and forced back to the office to open the safe . After the robbers already took what they wanted, they stabbed Zetler to death . 2- Crystal Dawson (28) and her father Peter Dawson tortured before
Peter Dawson [ 64 ] shot and killed by three armed attackers in their
house on a smallholding in Broederstroom , Hartbeespoort , North West ,
Saturday night . Chrystal managed to escape and ran through the bushes and crawled through an electric fence before she reached the road (R512) and flagged down a motorist . The motorist called 10111 from a nearby petrol station but they did not answer the phone . They managed to get hold of Chrystal's sister who was out for the night and told her not to return to the smallholding . Eventually they got hold of the Police who found Peter dead in the house . 3 - Kallie
Schoonraad [ 47 ] was shot dead on a farm in the Shylock area in
Rustenburg , North West province on Saturday evening 2018-06-23 .
Kallie's father in law was outside the farmhouse playing with his
grandchild when 5 robbers - black males - arrived . They started
shouting after which Kallie came out of the house . They shot him just
there . The attackers then forced Kallie's father in law into the house
and assaulted him, the children and Kallie's wife . They escaped with
household goods, firearms and the family's Toyota Fortuner reg no JTT
179 NW . No arrests carried out . Vehicle not found back .
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ThreeBears
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I think I read on Sunday that there are 18,000 murders a year in S.A and the vast majority of those killed are blacks. I would have left the dump years ago if I lived there and had the means to depart.
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acacia alba
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I couldnt live there, but just to visit is great. Mind you we steered clear of big cities except for Cape Town, and spent most of the time in the boonies , in game parks out of SA, which are pretty securely protected. People are either very rich, or very poor. We never could see middle income people just bumming around .
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animals before people.
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djebel
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I am happy to accept them here as refugees provided we are not hypocritical in those we take.
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reductio ad absurdum
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acacia alba
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Well, we have taken a decent share of Sudanese and Somalis etc, so a few white South Africans would help balance the book a bit ?
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animals before people.
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djebel
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Make sure they go through the whole process of course. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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acacia alba
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Of course. The sudanese and somalis come here unskilled , with no english language, and no money, and we take them in and support them , so some white fellas with skills and money might be nice for a change ?? Balance things out a bit
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animals before people.
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Dr E
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I have a mate who fled the gelati hole about 20 years ago - he had seen it all back then, and the writing was on the wall. He could see where they were headed, and he maintains that the media coverage is extremely censored ... the atrocities are of the text book description!
He's very bitter about it, and his attitude is that the whites should all just get out and leave it to the blacks, who will turn the whole country into a giant corrupt racist ghetto.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Tlazolteotl
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If I was a South African I would have left 40 years ago.
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Thabiso Robson Kekanaโ to Vaal Notice Board
More than 80 violent protest have been reported on the Meyerton R59 road. |
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PHOTO: Jo-an Englebrecht found his parents' bodies in their farmhouse.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) The scene inside the house was chaos. A door broken with an axe. Blood everywhere. And in the bedroom, his parents lying together, their hands tied, their throats slit, the cord of an iron tied around his mother's neck. Her body was still warm. "My father always said, 'It's not if, it's when'," says Jo-an Englebrecht, standing where he found the bodies. "He knew it's coming," he says, tears choking his words. "We all know it's coming. It's just a question of when." PHOTO: Picture frames hold photos of Jo-an Englebrecht's parents and family on a table inside their home.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) 'The way they kill you'Only weeks have passed since Jo-an's horrible discovery on a Sunday in May โ Mother's Day. Jo-an and his wife Sua had been expecting his parents โ 78-year-old Fanie and 74-year-old Colleen โ to drop by for lunch. At noon, there was no sign of them. Jo-an walked down the path to his parents home, where the family have lived amid the chequerboard maizefields south-west of Johannesburg for 40 years. Fanie's car was parked in the normal place, "like he was already back from church. Nothing unusual". Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek. But Jo-an says the memory of what he found inside the farmhouse, he will carry to his grave. "My dad was lying on his back, my mother was lying face down, hands tied behind her back," he recalls.
The killers had taken some firearms, some cash, a laptop, a tablet and a couple of mobile phones. The haul that cost two innocent lives. PHOTO: Fanie and Colleen at their first child's baptism. The photo is sewn into a tapestry.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) Jo-an doesn't believe the murder of his parents โ or of the 20 or 30 of his neighbours killed in the past decade or so โ can be written off as mere robberies. "Not only do they kill, but the way they kill, they torture you," he says. "This is hate. This is political hate." A white farmer 'genocide'PHOTO: Crosses on a hillside have memorialised farmers killed in raids. Seventy-five were added last year.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) On a bare hillside near Polokwane, in South Africa's Limpopo Province, stand more than 2,000 white crosses. From the air, they can be seen to form a giant cross. At the top of the hill, in huge letters visible from the highway a kilometre away, are the words Plaas Moordeโ Afrikaans for "farm murders". Each cross represents someone murdered in the course of a farm attack since 1994. The private landowner who owns the site has added 75 crosses in the past 12 months. It's a controversial figure. The country's largest commercial farmers union, Agri SA, announced recently that there were only 47 farm murders in the past 12 months โ the lowest figure for 19 years. AfriForum, an outspoken Afrikaner lobby group, says that figure is "certainly wrong". "During the calendar year of 2017 there were 84 farm murders that we could verify," says Ernst Roets, AfriForum's deputy CEO. "And by that we mean we have the actual names of the people who were murdered." In recent months, thanks largely to publicity drives by well-funded Afrikaner pressure groups like AfriForum, there has been an international outcry about the killing of white farmers in South Africa. Right-wing websites and radio shock jocks in the United States, and in parts of Europe, talk freely about "genocide". The term has been echoed by fringe politicians in Australia. Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek. Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has never used the word "genocide". But he did say in March that white South African farmers are facing "persecution" and has asked his department to consider granting humanitarian visas to any who want to come to Australia. The South African Government is dismissive of Mr Dutton's comments. "It was like (Dutton) was speaking about another country," says Ronald Lamola, a senior member of the ruling African National Congress (ANC). "Because in South Africa, there is crime. It's happening to all races โ whites, blacks, Indians, coloureds, and everyone in society.
It's certainly true that farm murders are dwarfed by the sheer scale of violent crime in South Africa. PHOTO: Kids play in the streets of Alexandra Township, Johannesburg.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) No-one claims that there were more than 100 farm murders in 2017, a year in which the South African police recorded more than 19,000 murders in the country as a whole. Most of those victims, of course, are black. According to Gareth Newham, head of Justice and Violence Prevention at the internationally-respected Institute for Security Studies in Pretoria, there has been a 40 per cent increase in all kinds of armed attacks since 2012 โ hold-ups of armoured security vans, home and business invasions, street muggings. "We have a real problem with violence," Newham says. "And so for us, sitting in South Africa looking at these 19,000 murders โ suddenly there's international attention on the murders of white farmers, it just seems completely disproportionate.
"There is evidence that attacks on white farmers in South Africa are largely driven by criminal intent, greed." Poverty and mob vengeancePHOTO: An aerial view of Diepsloot, one of the "informal settlements" near Johannesburg.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Berry) Just an hour's drive from Jo-an Englebrecht's farm is one of the so-called "informal settlements" that cluster around Johannesburg. Home to around 200,000 people, Diepsloot is a maze of alleyways and corrugated iron shacks. Water is scarce, sewers non-existent; unemployment, poverty and crime are all-pervasive. Local journalist Golden Mtika's guided tour makes for grim listening, with tales of violence every bit as harrowing as any farm attack. He talks of two- and three-year-old children raped and murdered; women attacked when they leave their shacks at night to go to the few portaloos in a township without streetlights. Mob justice has usurped the functions of a corrupt and under-resourced police force. "Last year, just here," he says, gesturing beside a rubbish-strewn stream, "the mob caught four men suspected of rape. "There was a multitude of people here. The men were stoned, cut with sharp implements, then they had petrol-filled tyres put round their necks. "The petrol was set alight and they burned alive." Mtika was there, he says. The police were not, until it was too late. PHOTO: A scene of harrowing mob "justice". Suspected rapists were burnt near these homes in Diepsloot.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry ) On any number of fronts โ wealth, education, health services and living standards โ South Africa is one of the most unequal societies on the planet. Over half the residents of Diepsloot โ many of them undocumented migrants from countries to the north โ have no work. It's not surprising, says Mtika, that crime is so prevalent here. It's from places like this that armed robbers go out to attack isolated farms. Golden Mtika says he knows several such farm attackers. They take with them the brutality that is commonplace in Diepsloot. "Often they end up killing the residents, sometimes because the farmer does not want to give them what they want. PHOTO: A boy draws pictures on a magazine in Diepsloot, where crime and corruption are rife.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) "Whether or not he has money on the premises, they use force on him and end up killing the person." But Mtika confirms that some of the attackers he's talked to are motivated by more than just greed. "Some of them have that ideology of saying, 'You know, the farmers took our land for free'. And when they go there they take out their anger on them," he says. "It's resentment of the past that is still continuing in the form of robberies. It is there. It's there." 'The white minority took our land by force'PHOTO: Some black farmers have returned to the land but many feel the pace of change is not fast enough.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) Land โ who owns it, who took it, who should get it โ is a bitterly contested issue in South Africa. And it's become more so since the rise of a new political party, the Economic Freedom Fighters, or EFF โ now the third biggest party in South Africa. At an EFF rally in the mining town of Klerksdorp, there's no hostility towards a white film crew. The atmosphere is more like a festival. Red-clad EFF supporters are dancing in the stands of the football stadium, and singing in the streets outside. But before long, the politics of South Africa's inequality are on display, and the dividing line is racial.
The man on stage is Julius Malema, a former ANC youth leader, now the self-styled Commander-in-Chief of the EFF. Expelled from the ANC in 2012 after being convicted of hate speech, Malema recklessly sets race against race. At the end of almost every speech, he breaks into an old ANC war-song: "We have taken our land back! Shoot to kill!" PHOTO: Julius Malema's EFF has 25 members in the national parliament. Pictured here speaking at a rally.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) Under apartheid, in most of the country, blacks were not allowed to own land. They were crowded into townships where they rented shacks, or into overcrowded and impoverished "Bantustans". When Nelson Mandela's ANC took power in 1994, it undertook to return 30 per cent of the country's land to black owners by the year 2000. But under the corrupt rule of Jacob Zuma, the land reform program stalled. According to most estimates, only 8 per cent of arable land is owned by blacks. Unemployment and poverty are as bad as ever. PHOTO: A young boy joins the crowd at an EFF rally in an oversize red t-shirt.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) Into this vacuum stepped Malema, a shameless populist offering old-fashioned communist remedies. The land will be nationalised, he promises, and distributed to the poor and needy. It is partly pressure from Malema's EFF โ which garnered 6 per cent of the vote at the last election and has 25 members in the national parliament โ that has pushed the ANC Government, under new President Cyral Ramaphosa, to adopt a policy of expropriating land without compensation. The country can't afford any longer to pay white farmers market price for land, the ANC's Ronald Lemola explains: "And anyway, historically, the land was dispossessed by violence. It's not like they paid for the land." PHOTO: Some farmland has been restored to its previous owners. This girl's family farms at Klipgat, near Potchefstroom.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) Jo-an Englebrecht's father did buy his farm on the open market 40 years ago. Now the mere threat of expropriation has made it all but worthless.
To the white farmers, the threat to their lives from criminals is now compounded by the threat to their land. Some believe the government is failing to protect them from farm attacks deliberately, because it wants to see them go. Jo-an Englebrecht doesn't go that far. But he does think the farm attacks are motivated by politics as well as greed. PHOTO: A worker harvests maize on farmland next to Jo-an Englebrecht's home.(Foreign Correspondent: Alex Barry) "If you have a leader like Malema going onto podiums and promoting this hate speech, that will only make it worse," he says. "I think that's what's placing the hate in people's hearts." To stay or leaveWatching the maize being harvested on his farm, Jo-an Englebrecht says he doesn't want to leave. "When you've poured blood, sweat and tears into a place for 40 years, you don't want to just up and leave it." But his daughter Tessa says that if she had the chance to come to a country like Australia, she wouldn't think twice. And her father isn't discouraging her. If Cyril Ramaphosa can turn the country around, deal with the rampant corruption and crime, Jo-an would stay. But right now, things are only getting worse. "If things stay as they are, what future is there for my children in this country?" he asks. Then he answers his own question: "There's no future here." |
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acacia alba
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We saw a lot of farm land standing dormant, with no one on it , just going to waste. And people living in poverty all around it. When we ask our black Zim guide he told us it was land taken from white farmers and given to black people, but they didnt know how to go about farming it as they had never been farmers. So the land just sits and wastes. While people starve, because the Govnt is too corrupt to spend money helping/teaching them how to farm.
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Dr E
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The transformation to Socialism is fascinating to observe, isn't it? ... just a shame that the left leaning FAKE NEWS media doesn't view it as "newsworthy" ... much more important to report on porn stars!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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17 hrs ยท
Sandy Van Rensburg Peasnell FROM THE HEART OF A WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN MOM |
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Gay3
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Barbaric farm attack: Man tied and โhung upโ with wire, wife shot in mouthA savage farm attack to place on Sunday afternoon 27 January 2019 in Cornelia, Free State Province. An elderly couple in there 80โs were brutally attacked by three armed suspects. The female victim was shot in the mouth whilst the male victim was tied and allegedly hung up by his hands with wire. It is reported that this is the second attack that they have survived. The incident was tweeted by Ian Cameron of AfriForum on 30 January 2019. There is no other information available at this stage. |
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maccamax
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As I've stated many times .
Allow migrants in , that you would rent a house to, with confidence. |
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Passing Through
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Might be able to do a asylum seeker exchange with a leading trainer who could soon be seeking refuge from 'persecution' maxie.
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This rogue govt. is requesting International aid for a catastrophic gold mine flood that shouldn't have been operating in the first place as it was illegal Zimbabwe gold mine flood death toll reaches 24 as search for survivors continuesBy Siobhan Heanue, Monday February 18, 2019 - 13:39 EDT Eight survivors and 24 dead bodies have been pulled out of a flooded gold mine in Zimbabwe.It is believed about 70 miners were underground when a burst dam flooded the illegal mine on February 16. One of the survivors all the escape routes were flooded and he had nowhere to go, leaving him standing in one spot for days with water up to his neck. "I never expected to get out of there alive," Simon Moyo said. "I was standing in water which reached my neck for the past four or so days. For all those days I never slept or ate anything." Crowds cheered as they watched some of the miners pulled out alive, soaking wet and caked in mud. Some looked dazed and one was unable to walk and had to be carried to a tent for medical treatment. It has pleaded for outside funding for the ongoing rescue. It has asked for $US200,000 ($280,000) to pay for pumps, to feed rescue workers and to pay for the burials of victims. "Given the magnitude of this disaster, we kindly appeal to individuals, development partners and the corporate world for assistance in cash and kind," local minister July Moyo said. Loved ones gathering at the mine Rescuers have so far built wooden platforms and used hand-cranked cable systems to pull out survivors. Various local mining companies have been helping with the operation. The trapped miners' loved ones and other miners have been gathered at the disaster site, about 150 kilometres from the capital Harare. "My son is in there. I did not see him when they brought out the others," Sekai Maziwisa said. "No-one is saying anything. How are we supposed to know what is happening?" Zimbabwean President Emmerson Mnangagwa has declared the mine tragedy a national disaster. The mine is owned by RioZim, which separated from parent company Rio Tinto in 2004. The men working illegally in gold mines in Zimbabwe are mostly young and use picks to search for minerals in the shafts. Zimbabwe faces high unemployment, with 90 per cent of people working in the informal economy. |
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TIGER
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Whites and any decent people should leave that hell hole and give it 10 years max and everyone of those savages will starve to death
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You posted that a few weeks ago and nobody commented, what makes you think anyone will bite yhis time ?
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You did ๐๐ผ๐£ |
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afraid not, I did not express an opinion about your post, simply commented on your stupidity in repeating it
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Belt and Road is going gangbusters. China will sort it out when they own Africa and most of the world soon.
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Where on this 1 page thread did I repeat myself twice ๐ฉ I wish Centrelink took away your Newstart and made you look for work |
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Whale
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I did not say you repeated yourself twice, you repeated yourself once
Lol the comments about Centrelink, they always start when people have nothing else
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Worry about yourself old fella
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... I like that you have a consistent message tigger!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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But a poor or convenient memory
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Poor old tiger,mauled by a whale....
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