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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:05pm |
I know progold. I can't understand why anyone thought to import the first mare at all. But they are producing city winners which is better than some are breeding with. I try to look at the whole line first as usually there are some clues to what will work. Hence a mix of Encosta and Bletchingly/Canny Lad. With all that Hyperion and 9c family in B & C's pedigree and the cross of Thong in Encosta. Canny's in I am Invincible also which could give a clue to that direction.
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Al Maher (AUS) Bay 2001 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Pas de Nom Bay or brown 1968 | Admiral's Voyage Petitioner | 1959 1952 | 4-n 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Bay 1968 | Ribot Flower Bowl | 1952 1952 | 4-l 4-d | Spring Adieu Bay 1974 | Buckpasser Natalma | 1963 1957 | 1-s 2-d | Show Dancing Brown 1993 | Don't Say Halo Bay or brown 1982 | Halo Bay or brown 1969 | Hail to Reason Cosmah | 1958 1953 | 4-n 2-d | Never Babble Bay or brown 1976 | Advocator Never Hula | 1963 1969 | 12-c 1-s | Dancing Show Bay 1983 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Show Lady Bay 1976 | Sir Ivor Best in Show | 1965 1965 | 8-g 8-f | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m,5m x | | Natalma | 5m,5f x | | Mr Prospector | x 4m,5m |
Casino Prince (AUS) Bay 2003 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Grand Luxe Chestnut 1974 | Sir Ivor Fanfreluche | 1965 1967 | 8-g 4-g | Lady Capel Brown 1993 | Last Tycoon Bay or brown 1983 | Try My Best Bay 1975 | Northern Dancer Sex Appeal | 1961 1970 | 2-d 8-f | Mill Princess Bay 1977 | Mill Reef Irish Lass | 1968 1962 | 22-d 8-c | Kew Gardens Bay 1981 | Kenmare Grey 1975 | Kalamoun Belle of Ireland | 1970 1964 | 9-c 1-m | Garden Green Bay 1964 | Pinturischio Focal | 1958 1959 | 4-r 21-a | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m,5m x | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 4m,5m |
Testa Rossa (AUS) Bay 1996 | Perugino Bay or brown 1991 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Pas de Nom Bay or brown 1968 | Admiral's Voyage Petitioner | 1959 1952 | 4-n 7-a | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Bay 1968 | Hail to Reason Lalun | 1958 1952 | 4-n 19-b | Special Bay 1969 | Forli Thong | 1963 1964 | 3-b 5-h | Bo Dapper Bay 1985 | Sir Dapper Bay 1980 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Sikri Bay 1967 | Golden Plume Miss Sikri | 1960 1963 | 19-b C25 | Bodega Bay 1973 | Without Fear Bay 1967 | Baldric Never Too Late | 1961 1957 | 13-c 4-c | Salon Brown 1964 | Fortino Soiree | 1959 1953 | 4-r 1-w | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Thong | 5f x 5m | | Mr Prospector | x 4m,5m |
Myboycharlie (IRE) Bay 2005 | Danetime Bay 1994 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Allegheny River Bay 1987 | Lear Fan Bay 1981 | Roberto Wac | 1969 1969 | 12-c 20> | Allesheny Chestnut 1982 | Be My Guest Bold Sands | 1974 1977 | 8-c 4-r | Dulceata Bay 1988 | Rousillon Bay or brown 1981 | Riverman Bay 1969 | Never Bend River Lady | 1960 1963 | 19-b 10-a | Belle Dorine Bay 1977 | Marshua's Dancer Palsy Walsy | 1968 1960 | 16> 8-k | Snowtop Bay 1983 | Thatching Bay 1975 | Thatch Abella | 1970 1968 | 5-h 5-h | Icing Bay 1973 | Prince Tenderfoot Cake | 1967 1967 | 8-c 13-e | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Mr Prospector | x 4m,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:31pm |
SOUTHERN SHIMMER (AUS) | Bay gelding 2007 | |
Southern Image Bay or brown 2000 | Halo's Image Bay or brown 1991 | Halo Bay or brown 1969 | Hail to Reason Brown 1958 | Turn-To Nothirdchance | 1951 1948 | 1-w 4-n | Cosmah Bay 1953 | Cosmic Bomb Almahmoud | 1944 1947 | 14-f 2-d | Sugar's Image Bay 1981 | Valid Appeal Bay or brown 1972 | In Reality Desert Trial | 1964 1963 | 21-a 2-c | Sugar Del Bay 1971 | Crozier Best Answer | 1958 1962 | 23-b 12-b | Pleasant Dixie Bay 1995 | Dixieland Band Bay 1980 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Mississippi Mud Bay 1973 | Delta Judge Sand Buggy | 1960 1963 | 12-c 4-m | Pleasant Jolie Bay or brown 1988 | Pleasant Colony Bay or brown 1978 | His Majesty Sun Colony | 1968 1968 | 4-d 5-a | Jolie Jolie Bay or brown 1980 | Sir Ivor Who's to Know | 1965 1970 | 8-g 13-c | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Chestnut 1967 | Northern Dancer Victoria Regina | 1961 1958 | 2-d 10-c | Mint Copy Bay or brown 1970 | Bunty's Flight Shakney | 1953 1964 | 19-b 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Chestnut 1970 | Bold Ruler Somethingroyal | 1954 1952 | 8-d 2-s | Sword Game Bay or brown 1976 | Damascus Bill and I | 1964 1965 | 8-h 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Thong Bay 1964 | Nantallah Rough Shod | 1953 1944 | 6-a 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Chestnut 1964 | Tudor Minstrel Amiga | 1944 1947 | 9-c 13-c | Perfect Hand Grey 1972 | Hand to Hand Turn Ahead | 1965 1967 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m x 5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:32pm |
BALLE D'OR (AUS) | Bay or brown filly 2014 | |
I Am Invincible Bay 2004 | Invincible Spirit Bay 1997 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Foreign Courier Bay 1979 | Sir Ivor Courtly Dee | 1965 1968 | 8-g A4 | Rafha Bay 1987 | Kris Chestnut 1976 | Sharpen Up Doubly Sure | 1969 1971 | 5-i 2-o | Eljazzi Bay 1981 | Artaius Border Bounty | 1974 1965 | 14-c 7-a | Cannarelle Bay 1998 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Brown 1970 | Biscay Coogee | 1965 1959 | 2-o 7-a | Jesmond Lass Chestnut 1975 | Lunchtime Beautiful Dreamer | 1970 1967 | 7-f 14> | Countess Pedrille Bay 1994 | Zoffany Bay 1980 | Our Native Grey Dawn Girl | 1970 1970 | 20-a 1-n | Sister Pedrille Chestnut 1980 | Cardinal Royal Law | 1969 1975 | 2-s 1-n | Tale of Love Bay 2006 | Tale of the Cat Bay or brown 1994 | Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983 | Storm Bird Bay 1978 | Northern Dancer South Ocean | 1961 1967 | 2-d 4-j | Terlingua Chestnut 1976 | Secretariat Crimson Saint | 1970 1969 | 2-s 8-c | Yarn Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Narrate Bay or brown 1980 | Honest Pleasure State | 1973 1974 | 11-f 2-f | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 5m | | Secretariat | x 5f,5f | | Mr Prospector | x 4f,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:33pm |
$11,000 match up
Super One (AUS) Bay 2012 | I Am Invincible Bay 2004 | Invincible Spirit Bay 1997 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Rafha Bay 1987 | Kris Eljazzi | 1976 1981 | 2-o 7-a | Cannarelle Bay 1998 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Jesmond Lass | 1970 1975 | 7-a 14> | Countess Pedrille Bay 1994 | Zoffany Sister Pedrille | 1980 1980 | 1-n 1-n | Tails Wins Bay 2005 | Tale of the Cat Bay or brown 1994 | Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983 | Storm Bird Terlingua | 1978 1976 | 4-j 8-c | Yarn Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Narrate | 1970 1980 | 13-c 2-f | Multiple Wins Brown 1999 | Sea Salute Bay or brown 1992 | Danzig Glowing Honor | 1977 1985 | 7-a 1-s | Princess Sybil Bay 1987 | Cormorant Dame Sybil | 1974 1978 | 5-j 16-g | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Danzig | 5m,5m x | | Mr Prospector | 5f x 4m,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:35pm |
Another $11,000 match up
Overshare (AUS) Bay 2014 | I Am Invincible Bay 2004 | Invincible Spirit Bay 1997 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Rafha Bay 1987 | Kris Eljazzi | 1976 1981 | 2-o 7-a | Cannarelle Bay 1998 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Jesmond Lass | 1970 1975 | 7-a 14> | Countess Pedrille Bay 1994 | Zoffany Sister Pedrille | 1980 1980 | 1-n 1-n | Savannah's Choice Bay or brown 2007 | Redoute's Choice Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Shantha's Choice Bay 1992 | Canny Lad Dancing Show | 1987 1983 | 14> 8-f | Kirov Premiere Bay 1990 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Fairy Bridge | 1961 1975 | 2-d 5-h | Querida Bay or brown 1975 | Habitat Principia | 1966 1970 | 4-r 16-a | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Danzig | 5m,5m x | | Canny Lad | 4f,5f x | | Mr Prospector | x 4m,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:37pm |
$44.000 match up
Brazen Beau (AUS) Brown 2011 | I Am Invincible Bay 2004 | Invincible Spirit Bay 1997 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Rafha Bay 1987 | Kris Eljazzi | 1976 1981 | 2-o 7-a | Cannarelle Bay 1998 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Jesmond Lass | 1970 1975 | 7-a 14> | Countess Pedrille Bay 1994 | Zoffany Sister Pedrille | 1980 1980 | 1-n 1-n | Sansadee Black 2000 | Snaadee Bay or brown 1987 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Somfas Bay or brown 1978 | What a Pleasure Ciboulette | 1965 1961 | 5-f 4-g | Sansapa Black 1988 | Bletchingly Brown 1970 | Biscay Coogee | 1965 1959 | 2-o 7-a | Nearctic Answer Bay or brown 1973 | Nearctic Prize Answer | 1954 1965 | 14-c 4-g | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Danzig | 5m,4m x | | Bletchingly | 5m,4f x | | Mr Prospector | x 4m,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:39pm |
$4,000 match up Trusting
Trusting (AUS) Bay 2006 | Tale of the Cat Bay or brown 1994 | Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983 | Storm Bird Bay 1978 | Northern Dancer South Ocean | 1961 1967 | 2-d 4-j | Terlingua Chestnut 1976 | Secretariat Crimson Saint | 1970 1969 | 2-s 8-c | Yarn Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Narrate Bay or brown 1980 | Honest Pleasure State | 1973 1974 | 11-f 2-f | Legible Bay 1999 | Zabeel Bay 1986 | Sir Tristram Bay 1971 | Sir Ivor Isolt | 1965 1961 | 8-g 6-e | Lady Giselle Bay 1982 | Nureyev Valderna | 1977 1972 | 5-h 16-c | Waihora's Lass Brown 1990 | Tights Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Dancealot | 1967 1971 | 8-f 16-g | Indhira Bay 1979 | Taipan Eagle's Eyrie | 1963 1963 | 22-b 8-f | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Secretariat | 5f x 5f | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 4m,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:42pm |
A very negotiable $6,000 match up - Whittington
Whittington (AUS) Bay 2010 | Tale of the Cat Bay or brown 1994 | Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983 | Storm Bird Bay 1978 | Northern Dancer South Ocean | 1961 1967 | 2-d 4-j | Terlingua Chestnut 1976 | Secretariat Crimson Saint | 1970 1969 | 2-s 8-c | Yarn Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Narrate Bay or brown 1980 | Honest Pleasure State | 1973 1974 | 11-f 2-f | Maha Chakri Chestnut 2003 | Beautiful Crown Bay 1991 | Chief's Crown Bay 1982 | Danzig Six Crowns | 1977 1976 | 7-a 23-b | Beautiful Glass Bay 1979 | Pass the Glass Beautiful Spirit | 1971 1973 | 22-b 1-c | Thai Lunch Chestnut 1988 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Thaiuette Brown 1981 | Baguette Thai-Silk | 1967 1966 | 6-c 14-b | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Secretariat | 5f x 5f | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 4m,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:44pm |
And the last one for now, a $9,000 match up Real Saga.
Real Saga (AUS) Bay 2006 | Tale of the Cat Bay or brown 1994 | Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983 | Storm Bird Bay 1978 | Northern Dancer South Ocean | 1961 1967 | 2-d 4-j | Terlingua Chestnut 1976 | Secretariat Crimson Saint | 1970 1969 | 2-s 8-c | Yarn Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Narrate Bay or brown 1980 | Honest Pleasure State | 1973 1974 | 11-f 2-f | Windy Kate Bay 2000 | Air Express Bay 1994 | Salse Bay 1985 | Topsider Carnival Princess | 1974 1974 | 5-h 16-g | Ibtisamm Chestnut 1981 | Caucasus Lorgnette | 1972 1964 | 5-g 17-b | Kate Be Good Brown 1988 | Semipalatinsk Bay 1978 | Nodouble School Board | 1965 1968 | A1 23-b | Kaoru Katie Chestnut 1977 | Kaoru Star I'm a Charmer | 1965 1970 | 31> 2-j | Wild Hostess (AUS) Bay 2009 | Host Chestnut 2000 | Hussonet Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Sacahuista Bay 1984 | Raja Baba Nalees Flying Flag | 1968 1975 | 3-l 9-f | Colonna Traiana Chestnut 1993 | Roy Bay 1983 | Fappiano Adlibber | 1977 1977 | 16-a 13-c | Propinada Bay 1981 | Prologo Cota | 1962 1973 | 5-h 22-a | Djel d'Amour Brown 1999 | Dehere Bay 1991 | Deputy Minister Bay or brown 1979 | Vice Regent Mint Copy | 1967 1970 | 10-c 10-a | Sister Dot Bay 1985 | Secretariat Sword Game | 1970 1976 | 2-s 2-o | Franssica d'Amour Bay 1990 | Geiger Counter Bay 1982 | Mr Prospector Thong | 1970 1964 | 13-c 5-h | Big Apple Baby Bay 1980 | Tumiga Perfect Hand | 1964 1972 | 13-c 7> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Secretariat | 5f x 5f | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 4m,5m |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 11:07pm |
Hello, Host, the Sire of "Wild Hostess", the Granddam is by Prologo is from a uncommon branch of Fam. 5-h. A closer look revealed, this branch is already to find in AUS peds. Denis Boy is from the same branch and to find in "Vain". Just to make it easier: Host-Prologo-Merrylips; Vain-Denis Boy-Merrylips Regards, Ticino
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Posted: 11 Jun 2018 at 9:37am |
I could put up a photo but can’t see how to do it, great conformation, very clean winded,built like a stayer. And yes, definitely breeding to race ourselves.
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Posted: 11 Jun 2018 at 11:11am |
Surely she needs a massive dose of good old colonial blood
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 12:30am |
6 month old filly by Excelebration
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 12:31am |
Thanks for that, would never have found it 👌
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 12:34am |
If we could replicate Southern Shimmer I’d be more than happy
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 12:37am |
Testa Rossa at Stallion parade, think he was 22.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 2:30am |
U know I’ve become very keen on this, Inbreeding to Sacahuista. My mares not a Hussonet shaped horse at all, then again neither was Host. Wonder if anyone else has flown this close to the wind with the breeding?
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 12:12pm |
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Line breeding to Sacahuista has been tried a couple of times in NZ through the use of Ekraar. It was with the same mare and I do not think it produced anything but that is not to say it would not work with another mare, especially if it was a little further back in the pedigree.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 2:28pm |
Hi, This would be 4m x 4f
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 2:29pm |
Hussonet 3m x 3f
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 3:26pm |
I think the NZ attempt was closer ( sorry I cannot find it in my old sales catalogues ) but I would think 4x4 would worth a try.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 3:37pm |
I have found the details now tanbon. It was 2mx3f
The breeding history of the dam :
I was wrong. Ekraarstaic looks to have done OK 4 wins from 28 starts. 2000m+ type of horse. I see there was a 2013 colt sold to Australia named Noble King. Could be worth following up on it.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 12:53am |
Noble King is gelded, 5yo, racing over 2000-2200m around Perth in WA. Sold tried horse 2017 $21500.00
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 11:40pm |
Thanks for all the great input, just letting contributors know that WH is booked to Deep Field, old Testa was right up there too 🐎👌🙏
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 11:50pm |
As was Fighting Sun. There’s a good horse in there somewhere?! Just have to hope we chose wisely and have a lot of fun with a nice sound half handy horse
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Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 10:26am |
Sister Dot wrote:
As was Fighting Sun. There’s a good horse in there somewhere?! Just have to hope we chose wisely and have a lot of fun with a nice sound half handy horse | Wild Hostess just tested positive to Deep Field 45 day preg test. High hopes! 🤞🍀
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