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    Posted: 17 Sep 2018 at 11:28am
A nice table there, Tonto. It reinforces how good Surround was. 

Here's a few other good mares and fillies in reverse chronological order:

Northwood Plume (1991) won 3 G1s all against her own sex and age group. She won 9 of 18 starts.

Maidenhead (1956) was a curiously named mare which won 9 of 30 starts. She was a great wet-tracker pretty useless on anything firm, but she won the Sydney Cup, the Chipping Norton and the BMW as well as the Chelmsford Stakes. Hardly a champion, but not a bad record.

Tarien (1948) more famous for her positive swab and subsequent DQ after winning the 1953 Doncaster. She also won the Ranvet, Warwick Stakes, George Main and Craven Plate amongst her 12 wins from 40 starts according to Go to Whoa. She also won a race in England. 

De La Salle (1944) was a NSW country performer which came out of nowhere to strike a rich vein of form in 1948 winning the George Main, the Epsom and the Caulfield Stakes. She won 16 from 35 starts and is covered in the book, Go to Whoa.

Amiable (1934) was another mare covered in Go to Whoa. She won 12 of her 86 starts in a far-too-long-extended career. Her biggest win was over High Caste and Ajax in the 1940 C.M. Lloyd Stakes where she set the Flemington mile record of 1min 34.75 seconds which lasted until metric conversion. She also won the William Reid Stakes.

Gay Blonde (1931) was another which was named in different times. She was a NZ champion which came across to Australia and won the George Ryder, the Mackinnon Stakes and the Craven Plate in 1936 amongst her 4 Australian wins. Her NZ record was 13 wins from 25 starts.

Sarcherie (1930) was placed 3 times in the Melbourne Cup from 4 starts. Her two G1s were the Ranvet and the Doncaster carrying 55.5.

Maple (1923) came out of WA where she won many good races including the Derby before her victory in the 1928 Caulfield Cup, one of 13.5 wins.

Anna Carlovna (1909) was a NZ mare which won the Caulfield Stakes and Melbourne Stakes as well as 2 Eclipse Stakes amongst her 5 Australian wins from 15 starts. Her opposition wasn’t great though.

Calumny (1869) was an exact contemporary of Lurline and was almost of the same class, winning the NZ Derby and 6 in a row in Australia, including the Newmarket in 1875, before Lurline hit form.


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A list of fillies to contest the Cox Plate.  I thought it should go here for reference purposes :

1923 FRANCES TRESSADY 6TH
1942 PHILANDER 10TH
1964 REVEILLE 8TH
1970 SKY CALL 11TH
1975 DENISE'S JOY 8TH
1976 SURROUND WON
1978 PRUNELLA 10TH
1980 YIR TIZ 5TH
1982 ENGLISH WONDER 9TH
1983 PERFECT BLISS 8TH
1986 SOCIETY BAY 11TH
1987 MIDNIGHT FEVER 6TH
1988 GLENVIEW 10TH
1989 TRISTANAGH 7TH
1989 COURTZA 10TH
1992 SLIGHT CHANCE 3RD
2006 MISS FINLAND 6TH
2008 SAMANTHA MISS 3RD
2016 YANKEE ROSE 3RD

19 fillies have contested the race in 95 years - 1 winner 3 thirds
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Chantal won four on the trot in Sydney all over a mile, all by a space, but was scratched from the Caulfield Cup when connections objected to the 7lb penalty.  Instead she ran in the Caulfield Stakes on the Wednesday between Guineas and Cup day but it was a slowly run affair and Winfreux had them all covered.  

Winfreux was ridden by Jim Jonston and it was noted that Johnston had won all 6 WFA races run in Melbourne that Spring.  He rode Tobin Bronze to win the Cox Plate to make it seven, and again to win the Mackinnon to make it 8 !  Then he won the Linlithgow on Oaks day on Legal Boy to make it 9 from 9.  

His amazing run came to an end in the CB Fisher Plate when John Miller rode Galilee to beat Tobin Bronze by 2½ lengths. In the following race Chantal was fourth behind Storm Queen in the George Adams Hcp. 
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Originally posted by Summer Regent Summer Regent wrote:

Carioca, the report I read said Chantal went 8 lengths clear before George Moore eased her back near the post. No wonder the win stuck in your memory!

One thing about Randwick in those days Summer Regent was the famous rise was so prominent just beyond the furlong pole and nobody rode that rise like George, he was freakish, no wonder the UK held no terrors for him, but I digress.
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Carioca, the report I read said Chantal went 8 lengths clear before George Moore eased her back near the post. No wonder the win stuck in your memory!
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She was a top mare alright, seen that Epsom win, it was devastating , after running second to her Galilee won toorak Caulfield cup then Melbourne cup, I'm with you there SR.
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Just to add a bit on Chantal, John H. She won the G1 George Adams Handicap (now the Thorndon Mile) at Wellington, so that gives her 3 G1s. 

She won her Epsom very impressively but George Moore was booed by the crowd when she was beaten three lengths and a short half-head third behind Winfreux and Light Fingers as odds-on favourite in the 1966 Caulfield Stakes. Chantal was retired after sustaining an injury during Storm Queen's George Adams Mile victory at her next start.

From an old Miller's Guide and Trove it looks as though she had 25 starts for 8 wins, 6 seconds and 2 thirds. An on-line pedigree gives 9 wins but counts her Rothsay Hcp victory as a 2yo twice. 

She certainly ranks with many of the others listed.
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Two others not yet mentioned are the NZ mares Chantal & Unpainted.

Chantal won the 1966 Epsom by 5 lengths from Galilee & then the WFA George Main Stakes a couple of days later.

Unpainted won the Doncaster Hcp & two days later the All Aged Stakes.

I am sure both won important races in NZ & became very good broodmares.
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Gay Poss 26 starts 10½/1/3

2yo 5 2/-/2

3yo 13 7/1/1

4yo 8 1½/-/-

She won the AJC Oaks and dead-heated with Arctic Symbol in the Caulfield Stakes. The Craiglee Stakes was her other win in a race that is currently G1.

Her last start appears to have been in the Lancaster Handicap at Flemington on the June 1971 long weekend.

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Always with the proviso that there may be a race missing or a transcription error! 
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Excellent.   You are always surprising me with your data.  I have done my fair share of Troving so I appreciate what you have done. 

Originally posted by Summer Regent Summer Regent wrote:

I've put together my own file of starts and placings, particularly of the near-champions and could-have-been-champions, which the racing industry, if it had any real regard for history and tradition, would already have. 


And I couldn't agree more.
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Barbelle was from Trove (a few spare hours today) and Frances Tressady from Marc Fiddian's book on the Victoria Derby, plus Trove. 

Several newspapers published Barbelle's early record after her Sydney Cup win and it was just a matter of working forward from there.

Over the years, from Miller's Guide, Turf Monthly (especially Warwick Hobson's articles) and a few Turf Registers, then from online newspapers and databases, I've put together my own file of starts and placings, particularly of the near-champions and could-have-been-champions, which the racing industry, if it had any real regard for history and tradition, would already have. 


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Where on earth are you getting these figures from ?
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Barbelle 40 starts 12½/5/4½

Her record is much better than Frances Tressady's!
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Peculiar, isn't it ?  

She is probably more famous than she deserves to be.  She beat the even more famous than he deserves to be Drongo  and they cleared away from the rest who were completely forgettable with the sole exception of King Carnival.  While he was by Comedy King from a Wallace mare it appears he did not stay.  He was beaten by the NZ visitor Ballymena in the Randwick Derby and turned it up at Flemington as well.  

Frances was third in the VRC St Leger behind Sandringham and Drongo.  Sandringham was a Woorak colt who really shouldn't have got the trip.  And Drongo never ever won a race.  I'd have to say it was a weak 3YO crop. 


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Frances Tressady's record amended on the spreadsheet. She won the VRC Derby and Oaks in the same week in 1923 but nothing of real quality outside those two wins.
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Nice to see a great mare with a line still going strong.  Similar to Denises Joy.
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It is a small small world in the thoroughbred industry.  I don't think too many went overseas in the 70's & 80's.  We had a fair few G1 winning colts sent to the USA in the 60's.  Then that kind of stopped with just a few going over the next thirty or so.  This one seems to have gone to Europe with the Mill Reef foal which looks to have worked well with the Mill Reef/Shirley Heights in the sire.
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Hello,
I can inform you all, Benbatl has won the "Grosser Dallmayr - Bayrisches Zuchtrennen" easily. One more win for "La Mer" at Group I Level.
 
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Rivette was bred, owned and trained by Harry Bamber. Bamber was a former lighthorseman from the Great War, a part time pony and thoroughbred trainer in the 1920s, and a victim of the depression in the 1930s when he was reduced to milking cows on a dairy farm to support himself and his sole horse. She was a mare named Riv, but Bamber lacked the money to pay a service fee for her. 

On Derby Day, 1932, he went to Flemington with ₤2 in his pocket which he put on Peter Pan to win the Mackinnon Stakes and then the Melbourne Cup. Peter Pan duly obliged, and with his winnings of ₤20 he was able to pay the service fee for the stallion Ronsard. The result of the union was Rivette. 

Rivette did not race as a two-year-old, and at three had just two wins at provincial tracks from 11 starts. At four she had four wins and three placings from eight starts, and Bamber believed she had the makings of a fine stayer. 

In 1938 she showed consistent form and Bamber backed her to win ₤15,000, for a bet of ₤5, in the Caulfield/Melbourne Cup double. Disaster struck, however, when Rivette gashed her hoof at Mordialloc beach and had to be scratched from all future engagements. 

With great patience Bamber nursed her back to health, and she returned to the track in June 1939. She won or was placed in her next eight races, followed by an effortless win in the Caulfield Cup. Starting favourite for the Melbourne Cup, she carried a 10lb. penalty as a result of her Caulfield Cup win, but again had no trouble in leading the field home. In doing so she became only the third horse and the first mare to win the two Cups double. 

As Harry Bamber later said: Rivette “set me up for life”.
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Rivette probably deserves a special mention.  I think she was the first mare to win the Caulfield/Melbourne Cup double.
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Now for some geeky fun....

Let's say we want to know who the best mares were at 3200m+.  We apply the filters and sort by DOB....

Gr.1 Wins Name DOB country Wins Starts S/R Gr1/sts Gr.1 range Gr.1 range
7 MAKYBE DIVA 1999 (GB) 15 36 41.7 19.4% 2000 3200
4 ETHEREAL 1997 (NZ) 8 21 38.1 19.0% 2400 3200
2 JEZABEEL 1992 (NZ) 7 26 26.9 7.7% 3200 3200
3 MILTAK 1989 (NZ) 8 19 42.1 15.8% 2400 3200
4 LET'S ELOPE 1987 (NZ) 11 26 42.3 15.4% 2000 3200
3 EMPIRE ROSE 1982 (NZ) 9 48 18.8 6.3% 2000 3200
3 (MY) BLUE DENIM 1975 (NZ) 10 ?? ?? ?? 2000 3200
4 LOWLAND 1964 (NZ) 10 34 29.4 11.8% 2000 3200
3 LIGHT FINGERS 1961 (NZ) 15 33 45.5 9.1% 2400 3200
4 EVENING PEAL 1952 (AUS) 11 51 21.6 7.8% 2400 3200
1 RAINBIRD 1941 (AUS) 8 47 17.0 2.1% 3200 3200
2 RIVETTE 1933 (AUS) 10.5 49 21.4 4.1% 2400 3200
5 CUDDLE 1929 (NZ) 23 66 34.8 7.6% 1600 3200
12 WAKEFUL 1896 (AUS) 25 44 56.8 27.3% 1100 3200
4 LA CARABINE 1894 (AUS) 15 48 31.3 8.3% 3200 4800
3 AURARIA 1892 (AUS) 10 24 41.7 12.5% 2400 3200
0 QUIVER 1891 (AUS) 6.5 30 21.7 0.0% 4800 4800
3 PETREA 1876 (AUS) 7 17 41.2 17.6% 1400 3200
5 BRISEIS 1873 (AUS) 6 17 35.3 29.4% 1600 3200
4 LURLINE 1869 (NZ) 13 28 46.4 14.3% 1600 3600
2 BARBELLE 1865 (AUS) 12.5 ?? ?? ?? 1400 3200
0 ZOE 1851 (AUS) 12 36 33.3 0.0% 4800 4800

What a race that would be.  

And specialist sprinters ?  Apply the filters for distance and strike rate (30%+) and sort by strikerate...

15 BLACK CAVIAR 2006 (AUS) 25 25 100.0 60.0% 1000 1400
5 STORM QUEEN 1963 (AUS) 13 20 65.0 25.0% 1200 1600
4 ALINGHI 2001 (AUS) 10 16 62.5 25.0% 1200 1600
5 MISS ANDRETTI 2001 (AUS) 19 31 61.3 16.1% 1000 1200
2 ISCA 1995 (AUS) 6 10 60.0 20.0% 1000 1200
3 WIGGLE [1] 1955 (AUS) 14 24 58.3 12.5% 1200 1600
5 DUAL CHOICE 1967 (AUS) 16 28 57.1 17.9% 1100 1600
2 GOLD EDITION 2003 (AUS) 17 37 45.9 5.4% 1200 1200
3 DESIRABLE 1973 (AUS) 10 22 45.5 13.6% 1200 1400
3 SEA SIREN 2008 (AUS) 7 17 41.2 17.6% 1200 1350
2 BEGONIA BELLE 1964 (AUS) 13 35 37.1 5.7% 1200 1600
3 CAP D'ANTIBES 1971 (AUS) 10 27 37.0 11.1% 1200 1600
3 FORENSICS 2004 (AUS) 7 19 36.8 15.8% 1200 1600
2 COURTZA 1986 (NZ) 5 14 35.7 14.3% 1200 1200
3 SPINNING HILL 1996 (AUS) 14 40 35.0 7.5% 1000 1200
3 ORTENSIA 2005 (AUS) 13 38 34.2 7.9% 1000 1200
3 SHAMEKHA 2000 (AUS) 8 24 33.3 12.5% 1200 1600
3 SPECIAL 1983 (AUS) 10 31 32.3 9.7% 1000 1200
3 (MY) GOLD HOPE 1977 (NZ) 8 25 32.0 12.0% 1200 1600
5 MAYBE MAHAL 1972 (AUS) 14 44 31.8 11.4% 1200 1600
3 CITIUS 1962 (AUS) 9 29 31.0 10.3% 1100 1600

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I am updating the link for the Google Drive spreadsheet because I have made it editable by anyone.


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Thanks for loading it on Google Drive, Tontonan. It's a great reference.

If Heat of the Moment's last race was the 1986 George Main, which seems to be the case, then she started 22 times for 6 wins, 5 seconds, 2 thirds.

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I have uploaded the spreadsheet to Google drive because the forum platform cannot handle the full sheet posted all at once. 
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rEH1KZh4RAxhVgwerjsOwho8x-r5G98R/view?usp=sharing

I have up loaded the original spreadsheet I used to Google drive.  Clicking the above link should allow you to download it or read from it directly from Google.


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Originally posted by Ticino Ticino wrote:

Hello,
maybe it's a bit offtopic.
 
Benbatl (Dubawi-Nahrain by Selkirk) has a connection with your work, because his 4th dam is none other than"La Mer". He will race tomorrow in the "Grosser Dallmayr - Bayrisches Zuchtrennen",
Group I, 2000 meter, Munich, Germany. This season he had won 3 races at Dubai, including the "Dubai Turf". His Connection is planning to send him to Australia for the "Cox Plate".
 
Yes, I can Imaging how manmy hours you have spent resesrch and writing about your Topic. I did it myself for much lesser breeding-and racing subject, Totonan.
 
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I was half way through my reply when there was a 'BANG!' and a power outage.  

Thankfully my data is safe but the reply was lost including the second half of a list of New Zealand mares.  This is the first half :

Hilda (NZ) Cynisca (NZ) Lady Zetland (NZ) Warstep (NZ) Silver Scorn (NZ) Yahabeebe (NZ) Soneri (NZ) Sea Spray (NZ) Show Gate (NZ) Battle Eve (NZ)  Snap (NZ) Seachange (NZ) La Mer (NZ) Cruciform (NZ)   Lurline (NZ) Gladsome (NZ) Lady Medallist (AUS) Desert Gold (NZ) Cuddle (NZ) Lowland (NZ) Gay Poss (NZ) My Blue Denim (NZ) My Gold Hope (NZ) Empire Rose (NZ) Riverina Charm (NZ) Horlicks (NZ) Let's Elope (NZ) Miltak (NZ) Champagne (NZ) Jezabeel (NZ) Sunline (NZ) Ethereal (NZ) Silent Achiever (NZ)   Princess Coup (NZ)  Miss Potential (NZ)  Abit Leica (NZ) Canterbury Belle (NZ) Tycoon Lil (NZ) Swell Time (NZ) Domino (NZ) Solveig (NZ) Prize Lady (NZ) Perhaps (NZ)  Ladybird (NZ)

Unfortunately I don't have the same resources for New Zealand racing and doing the list justice would be hard work.  A lot raced in Australia though and quite a few are detailed in Peter Pring's 'Analysis of Champion Racehorses' so I'll put it on my list of things to do.

Also, the earlier idea of listing Australasia's greatest broodmares has been on my to do list for quite some time and could be next project.  I have a database of around 500 well performed horses with their breeding and family numbers - more than that now after tabling the fillies and mares.  It may be useful as the basis of broodmare list.

Best of luck to Benbatl to fly the flag for La Mer tomorrow,
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I don't know if you noticed but I stopped at 99.   A little wriggle room  LOL

(Champagne would be the next in my line)

The selection that I worry about is Delicacy over Shamrocker.  It was really only Delicacy's 4YO campaign that tipped the scale in her favour.  Shamrocker's 4YO campaign was a stinker and she could be inconsistent where as Delicacy just didn't know how to run a bad race. 

Thanks for those stats.  I will add them in.

For those who pay attention to these things the most successful families on these tables are :

Family 20-a ;  Cuddle, Tranquil Star, Light Fingers, Jezabeel, Forensics (5)
Family 2-g :  Auraria, Desert Gold, Ripa, Dual Choice, Grand Archway (5)
Family 10-d : Waltzing Lily, Evening Peal, Wiggle, Horlicks (4)
Family 13-b : Desirable, My Gold Hope, Courtza, Red Tracer (4)
Family 22-b : Lady Sybil, Lowland, Circles of Gold,  Private Steer (4)

BTW :  I must confess to only including Wiggle's Australian starts in her career stats,  everyone else's overseas starts were added in.
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Hello,
maybe it's a bit offtopic.
 
Benbatl (Dubawi-Nahrain by Selkirk) has a connection with your work, because his 4th dam is none other than"La Mer". He will race tomorrow in the "Grosser Dallmayr - Bayrisches Zuchtrennen",
Group I, 2000 meter, Munich, Germany. This season he had won 3 races at Dubai, including the "Dubai Turf". His Connection is planning to send him to Australia for the "Cox Plate".
 
Yes, I can Imaging how manmy hours you have spent resesrch and writing about your Topic. I did it myself for much lesser breeding-and racing subject, Totonan.
 
regards, Ticino
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A few other wins and starts

Frances Tressady 7 wins
Barbelle 12.5 wins
Traquette 15 wins 40 starts 
Quiver 6.5 wins 30 starts (also raced in India)

Couldn't argue with the bolded 14 but Champagne and Republic Lass would be 101 and 102!
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