Tom Waterhouse. Is he serious???

maccamax wrote: ExceedAndExcel wrote: Also not hard to see how the early mail package would have been up 18% yesterday as claimed. He only gives 4 or 5 tips in that package with bet size suggestions as well. No idea what the bet sizes were but given the two winners were short it’s quite likely the other selections were smaller bets. The gold and silver package lost yesterday reading between the lines of the email.    Beating the market is what it is all about. I'm surprised you haven't used those markets to trade yourself E & E.    Would appear , there is some merit in that at first glance. I've reached the stage , I can't put the time in anymore.    The Brain won't function for the long hours involved .       No Joke . Part of the process . BTW ..    Something appeared to go amiss with the fav R8 Gawler yesterday.   Rider eased it out at about the 200 m.

Yes he is certainly beating the market!

I have traded a couple of them but most I just let ride to have some action. Yesterday I lost even though I could have traded for a decent profit. Oh well!

Race didn’t go to plan for it either yesterday. I think it was predicted to lead and looked in trouble when that didn’t happen. I also don’t put in the time for race form. Basically wasn’t worth my time. Which is why I’m happy to use the free tip each week and on the rare occasion I go to the track (once of twice a year) I would be happy to pay the $25 for a set of tips to help me.

jimbob04 wrote: seems to do ok so far

If Your claiming to be getting Top of the market Odds every wager , You have to win. ( ON PAPER )
I did read Tom's claim of beating the market by 35% compared to Starting Price.
That alone gives you approx. 20% advantage on the accepted SP loss on favourites of approx 10%/15%.

    Not rocket science to see such claims are not possible when the dollars go on.
   WHERE do you get $2.10 on every horse that starts at $1.70.
       Show me and make me rich.

Have you not driven on the roads nor walked down the street max?

There are some rippers out there....

Might be worthwhile following the Betfair trade on Tom’s early tips for Saturday.

In good time
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Get stuck In
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Mate of a mate is shelling out $300+ PER WEEK to this shyster.

He’s got a place betting package now.

rusty nails wrote: I take it that you’re not one of his platinum subscribers that pays $120k to sit with him? It boggles the mind that anyone could think someone might pay anything near that.

Tom's giving out a free week .     > gets your Bank details and if you don't cancel , your in for the long haul.

With the claim he beats SP prices by 38%.
I'll leave it to the maths teachers to verify that >>>   back every fav and lose 10---15% over time ..
Does that mean Tom wins 23% on anything .???

Red Hare wrote: Must be on the preferred list at Bet365...

ALWAYS > be "sus" , when the gun tipsters are relying on inflated odds to
push them into profit.

There are people who are good at price shopping , but it's delusional to mislead by saying , they beat SP by 38%, over time.
Tom's a "load of it".

You don't see the reliable punters on here nominating prices.
They just give their honest thoughts on a race and you get what you can.

Mug-Punter wrote: I actually seen his short video for yesterdays tips on LinkedIn on Friday. Granted I only remember 2 of them but both short odds on favourites with 1 getting rolled!!! Well done Tom!!!

lol= M.P.   = You have to add 38% to those prices so he can boast a profit.      WRONG they are allowed to mislead like that.   

    Almost as bad as the "Sunday Morning Tipsters".     . Intrigues me. What interest do they think any of us have, reading about such success after the races are run.        > Plus, No one believes them anyway.

Vindicates what has been posted on here "The Nem ",   He also claims = best price AFTER he posts selections.
We have tried to warn Members of these unobtainable prices.
Their not winning at SP.

It gets so bad that some overcome the "hurdles" by posting the selections
    AFTER THE RACE

The claim of beating SP by 38% is a scam and nothing less.   I'd love him to give me 20% over SP ...    I'd have a ball.      

Edited by Gay3 - 18 Feb 2019 at 4:56pm

What else can he do?

He can’t make money bookmaking.

He can’t get set at the rates he publishes, so he can’t win punting.

Taking mugs money for tips, has zero risk....

Today's 'specials'...

Red Hare wrote: Benalla R3 Lisa's Rainbow $4.30 (average price of corporates) into $3.70 before drifting back out. Bordertown R4 Longmire $8.50 into $5 before drifting back out. Tom's members 0/2.  Tom 2/2.

      PRICELESS    ...   Red Hare

   Gives people a chance to compare and see if Paying these people is worth it...      Remembering they have NOTHING to lose.

    Great work for the battlers RH.

Edited by Gay3 - 22 Mar 2019 at 5:46pm

It’s poor logic to say “why would you sell your tips”. Why wouldn’t you? It means you make money without the risk. And that’s the name of the game - money.