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djebel
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Posted: 03 May 2018 at 1:56pm |
Hippies and brothers: Langer starts in styleTen of the best lines from a memorable press conference as the new Australia coach makes his mark Justin Langer made quite the impression in his opening press conference as the new head coach of the Australian men's cricket team while passionately outlining his plans and ambitions in the new role. The full press conference is well worth your time, but if you can't spare the 20-plus minutes to take in the former opening batsman's enthusiasm for Australian cricket then we've outlined the best quotes below. On aggressive cricket "I was very fortunate, I was brought up under Bob Simpson and Allan Border. I still get nervous even saying their names, they were that tough and they demanded excellence on and off the cricket field and we played hard. I think the public will be disappointed if we don't play good, hard, competitive cricket. That said, we can also modify our behaviours." On sledging "The funny thing about sledging, I hear this probably October 3 every single year – I'm going to read the same headlines and I've laughed about this for 25 years. Every team that comes over and it's 'how are you going to combat the Australian sledging' and they go 'well we're not going to be scared of Australian sledging'." On Australia's winning mentality "It's in our Australian nature … we love to win, but we don't like to win by too much because we like to be the underdogs. I still remember it was a bit of a de-motivator in the great Australian team when we kept winning every game and they go 'yeah but it's getting a bit boring – we need some competition'." On the banned trio "Cameron Bancroft and Steve Smith – besides Mike Hussey – love the game more than anyone I know. They are cricket tragics and they're great kids. That's why it was such a surprise they made the mistake they did. They've made a mistake. We've all made mistakes, we can all get better at things. Davey Warner is the same, he's a really good young bloke." On mateship "It was so competitive to get into the (Australian) team, but when you walk through the doors with the Baggy Green it was like a brotherhood, it was like a nightclub mate. It was awesome. We'd walk in and they are my brothers. I think about Matty Hayden, Adam Gilchrist, Ricky Ponting and Glenn McGrath – they are literally like my brothers. That's what we've got to keep promoting in the Australian team." On walking "I got asked in a radio interview this morning, Adam Gilchrist – elite sportsman and walked when he got out. And I said 'yeah but I never walked when I got out'. 'You must be a cheat'. I said, 'no I just loved batting so much that I just didn't want to go out'. It was like when you were in the schoolyard, no-one liked getting out – you'd throw your bat and get all grumpy." On his biggest challenge "The Indian Test tour in about three of four years' time, to me that's the ultimate because we will judge ourselves on whether or not we're a great cricket team if we beat India in India. I look back on my career and the Mt Everest moment was 2004 when we finally beat India in India." On his WA coaching introduction "When I took over at WA, it was like a dysfunctional family. The ex-players hated the WACA, the WACA hated them back, club cricket hated them, WACA hated them back, media hated the WACA, the WACA hated them back – everyone was angry. I've got to bring a bit of love back! On his public perception "People see me as really tough and serious, that's my public persona, but I'm also a bit of a hippie. My daughter gave me a shave two days ago, because one month every year I like to grow a beard and not wear shoes." On embracing 'different' people "I like 'different' people. If you look at the Western Australian team, the ones I like the most are the ones who are a bit different. You've got to have some personality, you've got to have some competitive instinct, you have to be comfortable in your own skin. You can't be great at anything without being a bit different. And I am a bit different. It used to worry me when I was younger, but now I'm really comfortable in my own skin." |
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Would have still preferred Gillespie, but lets see where this goes!
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looks like its going to be a very long hard road back. Record one day score to the poms last night. England making us look like a bunch of second raters. We might have to go back to cheating
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A decent score that’s for sure. The 3-560 that Australia racked up in Billy Birmingham’s 12th Man Again nearly 30 years ago looking closer to reality than the joke that was intended as time goes on.
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'You must be a cheat'. I said, 'no I just loved batting so much that I just didn't want to go out' Lots of hugs anyway with Langer. There is nothing I enjoy more than seeing sportmen hugging and bum-patting. It gets me, right here. |
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Not sure who this sweetheart is on Bil and Boz, but he is kidding if he thinks that article on Steve Smith in the Sydney Morning Heralds, good weekend magazine last Saturday, is incorrect.
Complete moron!!!!!! |
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How long does he have left ?
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Finch on the radio this morning. You could he doesn't like him but couldn't so as much
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OPINIONGrumpy Coach: How Langer’s volatile approach is wearing Australia downThere are few people I admire more in Australian cricket than Justin Langer, both as a player and statesman, but I struggled to work with him as national coach. I filled in as Cricket Australia’s men’s team media manager in 2019 during part of the World Cup and Ashes in England then the Twenty20 series in Australia during a six-year stint in a joint Cricket Australia-Cricket NSW role as a senior communications manager. An early inquiry to support staff about how best to handle the situation had a simple answer: “It’s our job to de-stress the coach.” Even a simple post on the player and support staff group chat letting them know of a particular issue that had been brought up in the media could elicit a rebuke. I consulted support staff and communicated with Langer through short WhatsApp messages where possible. Anything to avoid direct conversations. Some players didn’t like walking past Langer’s seat on the team bus lest they prompted a negative response. If things weren’t going well, the odd player would ask,“How’s the grumpy coach?” Most baffling was Langer’s sudden obsession with things that, to me, didn’t seem to matter. Two days out from the beginning of the 2019-20 international summer, heading into a long-forgotten Twenty20 series against a modest Sri Lankan side, Langer decided that, despite an $800 million television deal with Fox, players would no longer be allowed to be miked up on the field. Apparently, Glenn Maxwell had once dropped a simple catch because, Langer thought, he had been distracted by a conversation with TV commentators. It became an issue at the team meeting leading into the series. When I pointed out that players had been miked up throughout his multiple title-winning seasons as coach of the Perth Scorchers in the Big Bash, he replied: “I don’t give a rats about domestic cricket.” In desperation, I asked the players who didn’t want to wear a microphone. Most put their hands up. Who did? Maxwell is the only player who raised his hand. Langer shook his head. Fearing the implications for the broadcast deal, I arranged a meeting with Cricket Australia’s broadcast staff, Fox and Langer. A solution was found on the eve of the first match, with players talking to spider cam when it dropped down during breaks. What was all the fuss about? And why so close to the start of the season? An hour before the first match, as players were warming up on Adelaide Oval and Mark Howard was dodging fast bowlers doing pre-match interviews for Fox, there was a roar in my left ear. Startled, I looked around. There was Langer, steely-eyed and square-jawed. I quickly looked to see if a Fox cameraman or cable had got in the way of a warm-up drill, but could see nothing untoward. “What’s that?” Langer roared again, pointing over his shoulder. “We’ve got to play these blokes in an hour!” The video screen next to the Adelaide Oval scoreboard was showing highlights of Sri Lankan captain Lasith Malinga, bowling batsmen with his trademark slinging, swinging yorkers.
I had another quick look around the ground but no one was paying attention to the screen. They were too busy watching cricket balls flying around during warm-ups. I went off to look for whoever was in charge of screen output, but could not help wondering whether there might be more important things to worry about going into the first match of the summer. Like many of these minor incidents, Langer’s latest blow-up at a Cricket Australia digital journalist during the recent tour of Bangladesh is nothing in isolation, but contributes to a pattern of erratic behaviour. The digital journalist was castigated in clear view of the squad by team manager Gavin Dovey because cricket.com.au — controlled by Cricket Australia but run as an international cricket news site — had posted a video of Bangladesh celebrating their series victory over Australia. Dovey later admitted he could have handled things better. When Langer found out, he marched over to the journalist and told him to be very careful, or words to that effect. It was schoolyard stuff which in another setting could have become an HR matter. At the very least it was completely unnecessary and again, a long way from an incident worth worrying about when your team is 3-0 down with two matches to play. I’ve known Justin Langer most of his cricketing life. As a cricket writer, I covered his debut when he made a courageous half century against the West Indies in early 1993, wearing a blow on the helmet from fast bowler Ian Bishop at his peak under a dark Adelaide sky. I admire the way he fought for eight years to establish himself as half of the most successful opening partnership in Australian history with Matthew Hayden. And his standing as a statesman was pivotal to restoring trust with the Australian public when he was appointed as coach to pick up the pieces after the ‘Sandpapergate’ meltdown in South Africa three years ago. But players are being worn down by the volatile, high-stress environment he inhabits as coach, and his folksy, clichéd motivational homilies. As one player told the Herald and The Age: “It becomes draining and affects everything.” Malcolm Conn was a senior communications manager for Cricket Australia and Cricket NSW between 2014 and 2021. |
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Poor old Joe the camera man " the brown nose gnome " yeah right .
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Which Australian player has enough status they could tell Langer to simply kiss off ?
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Heard this discussed in the Radio TAB breakfast show the other morning. Thoughts were that someone at the end of their international career, content to milk the T20 circuit cash may be happy to tell him what they think.
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I'm not a cricketing follower (used to be years ago before i cottoned on to US sports) - however i always thought it was odd the way Langer left the game. He seemed to skulk out for no good reason. Is that fair or not ?
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Yeh, that probably is unfair. Didn't he retire in the same match as Warne and McGrath ?
I think you might be thinking of Damian Martyn ?
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Correct djebel, Langer retired at the conclusion of the 06/07 Ashes series alongside Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath, if anything his retirement was as understated as his test career in general.
Damien Martyn just upped and walked out, was very strange.
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Ok - i was probably thinking Damien Martyn
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Marto retired after the 2nd Test in Adelaide i think from memory
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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"If media reports are correct ..." So nobody directly involved had the guts to tell Langer of their displeasure?
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You must have to look hard to find stuff like that - batsy the anonymous blogger.
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Maybe time to change the title and job description from coach to team manager and have him sitting in the management suite not the players box.
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Lets see.
1. Nowhere near winning the one day World Cup in 2019. Fail. 2. Nowhere near winning or even making the final of the World Test Rankings. Fail. 3. Won the T20 World Cup. Pass. 4. Played favorites with selection (which every coach does). Fail. 5. Thinking his position is the most important one for the sport. Fail. It is not exactly a glowing endorsement, and if you think the Australian players hated him then England's players will not be kind to him either. if he gets their coaching job. |
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