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maccamax
Champion Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
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I hope Winx doesn't have to get too wide. |
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18699 |
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I thought he rode the horse okay Judge, but he just got held up by some horses who were going backwards, while his stablemate and TAS had the run around the outside. Both Mornoeys were great derby trials! TAS might be a champion but at least when Octagonal was winning by a pimple in the autumn, he was beating an Australian Cup winner, a VRCDerby winner and Filante. |
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Lord Hybrow
Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6643 |
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If nothing else he’s given us some excitement this autumn.
Coming from a long way back to win the Randwick Guineas & then getting into a dogfight today to win the Rosehill Guineas.....both very exciting events. I hope he’s not retired this campaign. I do think he’d get torched by Winx in a QE Stks, so I’d love to see him spell, then return for the spring: 1. Warwick Stks 2. Chelmsford Stks 3. George Main Stks |
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ChrisB
Champion Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Status: Offline Points: 2290 |
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Mystic Journey would give TAS windburn.
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31303 |
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It would be financial suicide to race TAS another season.
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Xavier
Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 3660 |
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Agreed. They won’t risk the loss of millions. |
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Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Straight arrow
Champion Joined: 01 Dec 2018 Status: Offline Points: 1026 |
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Very hard to mark this horse? He is a winner!! You sometimes find blinkered horses don't come away from the pack, unless there very superior. Like Caulfield G ? But u find no matter what they throw at them they keep winning! He maybe that horse? But hard to be exact
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Carioca
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Well there's one thing he's got in spades that's guts, but the fillies aside he's the best of an ordinary lot of colts and geldings, they'll squeeze the last drop out of this lemon ( hype wise) but to compare him with the Queen at WFA .....dreamers, but dreams are free.
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Champion Joined: 01 Dec 2018 Status: Offline Points: 1026 |
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Agree he will get very good press !! I'm sure some under table deals will be getting done on tv stations and radio
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Afros
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No chance he's a racehorse in the spring. |
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SkyDancer
Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2014 Location: Cranbourne Status: Offline Points: 8428 |
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Anther over priced over hyped stallion.
We should have a royal commission into the studs |
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Glencoe
Champion Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Location: Mt. Gambier S.A Status: Offline Points: 1942 |
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Determined but shows DOURNESS
Great in a racehorse but a no-no for an Oz Sire
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Lord Hybrow
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You’re probably right Afros.
It is a shame though that his racing career is deemed less important than his future stud career. Does the world really need yet another Redoutes Choice stallion? There must be already 40 or 50 to choose from. So no we don’t. Does the sport need classy, talented racehorses to provide some depth in our feature races? In light of Winx’s impending retirement, yes we do. |
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Isn't even in the same postcode as Mystic journey yet alone winx
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Bonjour
Champion Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 8402 |
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Very lucky that MC was LS......MC is a far better horse than Arrogant, especially on rain effected.
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kavg
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If he has another race it will be interesting to see whether he goes Doncaster or Derby. Pretty obvious he will avoid Winx in QE.
I was of the opinion that he would be too dour if he went Rosehill guineas and then came back to mile of Doncaster as his pedigree suggests 2000-2400m. He did look dour today so I am even more convinced that he will be looking for further. Or is todays fighting run because he is actually more a miler and that freshening him up will have him cherry ripe for the Doncaster? Hard for me to guess but he is pretty short for the Doncaster against some hardened milers with a turn of foot. He is lucky though that Mystic Journey isn't around.
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furious
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Yes she is lighter on her feet for one thing. He's not built for the mud - and that was what turned up today. Before the turn a very wet section really did alot of horses in.
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Carioca
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He did run 1-33+ for the Guineas at Randwick over a mile but he was under heavy weather before the turn and he had the race made to order for him, I cannot for the life of me see this horse as a Doncaster horse , imo he can't mix it with serious milers, others will no doubt disagree so feel free to shoot me down .
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furious
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I keep saying he's bred for the Derby but I think the weather is here to stay. There is no way he'll go 2400m in the wet after that run. It was like Northerly and Freemason. He's a big lad and needed every bit of his strength to get there.
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45321 |
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Rather reminds me of Lonhro, though he raced far longer than will TAS.
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ChrisB
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Like Lonhro
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Second Chance
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Lonhro rarely won by a clear margin, indeed at least a dozen times by less than a neck.
Not saying TAS is in his class, simply saying they both FOUND THE LINE when the going got tough.
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ChrisB
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Correct weight. |
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ChrisB
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Well let's talk about the Mudgee horse that is like Lonnhro who finds the line......
He has never had it tough by racing against nothing. Hence why he will be retired before he does. |
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Paul Hogan
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That does not make any sense to me. His group 1 win over 1600 metres he ran 1.33.7. 'That is not Dour', that is the exact opposite that is Flying. His last Win over 2000 metres was on a heavy 8. Maybe where the impression of Dourness comes from. |
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Paul Hogan
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He Won a Group 1 at 1400 metres, imo that is good enough for the Aus Market.
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Tlazolteotl
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He is flying at the end of his races but it takes all of the runway to take off. Got no ping. |
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45321 |
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Thanks Hoges for some reality.
ChrisB's above post suggests he knows bugger all or has had too much to drink. Suspect both cases might apply for an apparent troll such as he appears.
Bottom line: Lonhro almost always won in a close finish when often appearing beaten. TAS the same. Not comparing them per se, just identifying the similarities. Ok TAS hasn't won in open company, which certainly lessens his racing legacy somewhat. But then again he's lost just once in 9 starts which ain't quite shabby. |
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Tlazolteotl
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What. Lonhro had explosive acceleration and most of his wins were by good margins I I see no resemblance to TAS. If anything he reminds me of Octagonal. |
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Second Chance
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Each to their own memory Tlaz.
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