The Autumn Sun

The thing I am looking for is who will challenge him.

Gem Song would of added some depth to the quality there, but Aramayo looked average at Caulfield, the horses he beat in the Rose and Guineas have not come back and screamed they have improved.

I would not be surprised if they retire him after the Randwick Guineas.

For him to go to stud and be given a high fee off his group 1 wins against what looks to be questionable 3yo's is not great for me.

At least Redoutes had to race Testa Rossa, and Commands and he won a open wfa group 1 against a high quality sprinter in Miss Pennymoney.

The form behind him, to me looks below the average ratings for three year olds!   

Yes he's crying out for the Derby.  Will they try?

Last 600 was 34.66 on a Soft 7 and he came from last place. That was impressive enough for me. This is a 1600-2000m horse winning 1st up over 1400. He get better as he gets deeper into his prep.

to be fair ChrisB everything get thrashed at the moment by the iron mare.  She is the superior one but this one is good also and is from a superior European family which produced Azamour with 2400m and 2000m G1's to his name.  This boy is possibly even stronger on pedigree for a distance.

furious wrote: to be fair ChrisB everything get thrashed at the moment by the iron mare.  She is the superior one but this one is good also and is from a superior European family which produced Azamour with 2400m and 2000m G1's to his name.  This boy is possibly even stronger on pedigree for a distance.

Of course Winx would thrash him.

I think Benbatl and Humidor would have also hence my comment.

You may be right. But until goes in some top quality races which he keeps avoiding (and not struggling to beat benchmark horses in poor races like today) I see nothing special about him.

That's if they dare put him in WFA.

Which i doubt tbh as too big a risk.

Beat nothing today, and form through the Caulfield Guineas is dreadful. I'd love to see him against Hawkshot and Ringerdinding (have a look at his last 100 today) this Autumn but that's not going to happen- two "Guineas" in two weeks.

Loser

It would be just plain common sense to retire this horse after his 3yo campaign simply because our industry does not support dour staying sires. If I owned him I would worry about him showing dourness as a 4yo.

You guys are all absolutely insane, he was running near 11 second furlongs the last 600 on a soft 7, horses can only go so bloody fast.

Speediskey wrote: Besides the very last race over 1100m, The Autumn Sun ran a quicker last 600 than every other horse on the card today. 33.93 last 600 over 1400m on a Soft 7.

I think he's a terrific colt. But I won't be suckered in by the usual stallion bullsh1t. Who's the best horse he's beaten? Zousain?

The horse he beat yesterday could well be pretty bloody good.

Wowzers

Visually one of the best wins I’ve ever seen.