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Hello,
like the last years I will start a new thread about the important races during the "Classic 3 year old Season" in my homecountry. Here is the listing of the race tomorrow: Derby Trial (Preis der Wettannahme Kellermann) 2200 meter, Listed Race, Düsseldorf, Sunday 8.4.18: Alounak (Camelot-Awe Struck by Rail Link) Fam. 5-j Recce 3x5x5 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives, 4x4 Danehill, 4x4 Mr. Prospector Aronius (Pastorius-Aronia by Rock of Gibraltar) Fam. 16 Kisasszony, Lucas Cranach 5x5x5 ND, 5x5 Surumu, dam 2x3 Danehill within 5 gen Danehill 3x3 Natalma, Soldier Hollow 4x4 Special/Lisadell FS, Monsun 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone FB/FS Ernesto (Reliable Man-Enrica by Niniski) Fam. 19 Egina 4x4 ND Jaro (Hamond-Jiffies Flyer by Desert Story) Fam. 4-m Alablue 5x5 Round Table, 5x5 Relko/Reliance 3/4 relatives, dam 4x4 ND Valajani (Jukebox Jury-Ventiane by Königstiger) Fam. 11-f Kermesse 3x5 Sadlers Wells, dam 3x3 Shirley Heights/Gull Nook 3/4 relatives and/or 4x4 Mill Reef Attention Run (Hurricane Run-Attention Please by Sternkönig) Fam. 7 Angelure no inbreeding Shining Bright (Makfi-Seven Shares by Peintre Celebre) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 4x5 Danzig, 4x5 ND regards, Ticino Edited by Gay3 - 05 Aug 2018 at 8:27am |
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The 16c family has Zabeel who is our go to for staying blood in Australasia. Through his daughters and grandsons now I must admit.
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Hello,
here is the result of the first better class race for 3 year olds, please note over the distance of 2200 meter. 1)Alounak (Camelot-Awe Struck by Rail Link) Fam. 5-j Recce
3x5x5 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives, 4x4 Danehill, 4x4 Mr. Prospector 2)Valajani (Jukebox Jury-Ventiane by Königstiger) Fam. 11-f Kermesse 3x5 Sadlers Wells, dam 3x3 Shirley Heights/Gull Nook 3/4 relatives and/or 4x4 Mill Reef 3) Aronius (Pastorius-Aronia by Rock of Gibraltar) Fam. 16 Kisasszony, Lucas Cranach 5x5x5 ND, 5x5 Surumu, dam 2x3 Danehill within 5 gen Danehill 3x3 Natalma, Soldier Hollow 4x4 Special/Lisadell FS, Monsun 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone FB/FS regards, Ticino |
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Nice to see Camelot get one. Saw him win the Irish Derby.
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great minds think alike, Furious ! i was there too ! it was a great day, wasnt it ! i saw Camelot got a winner somewhere else as well,,,here in Aust i think. |
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Big things are expect from Camelot this season apparently.
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Hello,
many thanks for the kind response to my topic. Btw, Camelot traces back to Kincsem, the unbeaten Hungarian racemare and later broodmares. She only had 5 foals and ironically she died at the same day as was foaled. Camelot is via her daughter Budagyönge (by Buccaneer, won German Derby). Her FS Ollyan-nincs is the 5th dam of Winnica, who founded a succesful branch in Germany, see last years German Derby winner Windstoss. regards, Ticino |
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Hello,
the first "Classic Race" for 3 year olds will be run during the Weekend. Schwarzgold Rennen, (Fillies), 1600 meter, Group 3, Cologne, Sunday 15.4.18: Angelita (Areion-Angel Dragon by Royal Dragon) Fam. 9-h Anatevka 5x5 ND, damsire Royal Dragon-Danehill 3x3 Natalma Butzje (It's Gino-Beltana by Areion) Fam. 20-c Fancy Free 5x5 Nijinsky Dance Me (US)(Bernadini-Stormy Saturday by Stormy Atlantic) Fam. 13-c Frizette 3x4 Seattle Slew, 4x5 Secretariat, 5x5 ND Dina (Nathanial-Diatribe by Tertullian) Fam. 1-h Didergo, Animal Kingdom 4x4 Allegretta or 2x3 3/4 relatives Urban Sea/Tertullian, Sire 4x4 Nearctic, dam 4x4 Sharpen Up La Magique (Dabirsim-La Miraculeuse by Samum) Fam. 5-h Vali 5x5 ND, 3x4x4 Ridan/Sadlers Wells/Tate Gallery Queens Beauty (GB)(Lethal Force-Pretty Girl by Polish Precedent) Fam. 1-k Zabara, Frankel 3x5 Danzig, 5x5 Nearctic, dam 3x4 ND Suada (Maxios-Shiramiyna by Invincible Spirit) Fam. 3-o Black Cherry 4x5 ND, 3x5 Fairy King/Nureyev 3/4 relatives Wierland (Cape Cross-Wolkenburg by Big Shuffle) Fam. 5-h Waldrun No inbreeding regards, Ticino
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Are the two 5h ones close relatives or different branches Ticino?
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Hello, Furious,
These 5-h branches are different one, Vali is the frenchbased Fam. 5-h (see Zabeel), pretty close related with the Goody Two Shoes/Dalmary Family. Waldrun via "Wie So" (imported during the early 20th Century from Austria/Hungary) to German you have to go back some 200 Years for the common ancestor. There is one more strain of abovementioned Family in Germany, see my listing. Fam. 5-h König Turf (C) by Big Shuffle, Kalatos (C) by Big Shuffle, Königsstuhl (C) by Dschingis Khan, Kamiros (C) by Star Appeal,r Fam. Goody Two Shoes/Rough Shod/Dalmary Gladiateur, Kirkconnel Kaiserin (Ile de Bourbon) - Königsblüte (Cortez) - Königswürde (Neckar) - Königskrönung (Tiepoletto) – Krönung (Olymp) Kaiserkrone (Nebelwerfer) - Kaiserwürde (Bubbles) - Katinka (Biribi) - Killeen (St. Brendan) - Santina (St. Maclou) - Little Blanche (Gallinule) - Triesta (Bay Cardinal) - Trieste (Plum Pudding) Trireme (Iago) - The Warwick Mare (Merman) - Ardrossan Mare (Ardrossan) - Shepardess (Shuttle) - Buzzard Mare (Buzzard) - Ann of the Forest (King Fergus) Fam. 5-h Waldpark (C) by Dubawi, Wiesenpfad (C) by Waky Nao, Windwurf (C) by Kaiseradler Wurftaube (Acatenango) – Wurfbahn (Frontal) - Wolkenpracht (Pitskelly) – Wolke (Kaiseradler) Westfalen (Neckar) - Windstille (Avanti) - Waldrun (Alchimist) - Walburga (Aurelius) - Wally (Dagor) - Wie So? (Ossian) - White Clover (Con Amore) - Wave (Doncaster) - Weatherbeaten (Young Melbourne) - Weatherbit Mare (Weatherbit) - Birdcatcher Mare (Birdcatcher) Miss Whip (The Provost, 1844) - Miss Whip (Jerry, 1830) - Georgina (Woful) - Shepherdess (Shuttle) Soldier Hollow (C) by In the Wings Sadlers Wells, Nureyev, Perugino Island Race (Common Grounds) – Lake Isle (Caerleon) – Inis Free (Hoist the Flag) – Lisadell (Forli) - Dalmary (Blandford) - Simon Shoes (Simon Square) Vialli (C) by Niniski Val de Loir, Petoski Vaison la Romaine (Arctic Tern) - Victory Tune (Dr. Fager) - Veda (Snob) - Vali (Sunny Boy) - Her Slipper (Tetratema) - Carpet Slipper (Phalaris) - Simon’s Shoes (Simon Square) - Goody Two Shoes (Isinglass) - Sandal (Kisber) - Shoestring (Knight of the Garter) Bowstring (Tom Bowline) - Toxophilite Mare (Toxophilite) - Melbourne Mare (Melbourne) - Miss Whip (The Provost, 1844) - Miss Whip (Jerry, 1830) - Georgiana (Woful) - Shepherdess (Shuttle)
regards, Ticino
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Butzje in a quite stunning performane.
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Hello
, here is the result odf the first "Classic Race". 1) Butzje (It's Gino-Beltana by Areion) Fam. 20-c Fancy Free
5x5 Nijinsky 2) Angelita (Areion-Angel Dragon by Royal Dragon) Fam. 9-h Anatevka 5x5 ND, damsire Royal Dragon-Danehill 3x3 Natalma 3) Suada (Maxios-Shiramiyna by Invincible Spirit) Fam. 3-o Black Cherry 4x5 ND, 3x5 Fairy King/Nureyev 3/4 relatives regards, Ticino |
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Thanks Ticino. We have a few good branches here also.
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Hello,
the next prep race for the German Derby. This time for the Colts. Dr.-Busch-Memorial, 1700 meter, Group 3, Krefeld, Sunday, 22.4.18: Wild Max (Maxios-Wildfährte by Mark of Esteem) Fam. 5-h Waldrun 4x5 ND, 4x5 Surumu All for Arthur (IRE)(Tertullian-All An Star by Galileo) Fam. 22-a Stella 3x4 Allegretta or 1x2 3/4 relatives Tertullian/Galileo, 4x4 Raise a Native, dam 3x4 ND Kronprinz (Lord of England-Kaiserwiese by Sholokhov) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwurde 4x5 Literat, dam 3x4 ND Melodino (Dabirsim-Melody Fair by Montjeu) Fam. 22-d Grand Duchess 4x5x5 ND, dam 2x3 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev or 4x4 Special Ninario (Areion-Ninigretta by Dashing Blade) Fam. 5-h Dalmary 5x5 ND Weltstar (Soldier Hollow-Wellenspiel by Sternkönig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem no inbreeding, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell FS, Granddam 3x3 Tamerlane Zargun (Rock of Gibraltar-Zenaat by Galileo) Fam.14-a Celerrima 3x4 Danzig, 4x4x4x5 ND, 5x5x5x5 Natalma Interesting observation 3 runners are from the Family 5-h, but from various branches. regards, Ticino |
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Hello,
here is the finish of the Dr.-Busch-Memorial: 1) Kronprinz (Lord of England-Kaiserwiese by Sholokhov) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwurde 4x5 Literat, dam 3x4 ND 2) Weltstar (Soldier Hollow-Wellenspiel by Sternkönig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem no inbreeding, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell FS, Granddam 3x3 Tamerlane 3) All for Arthur (IRE)(Tertullian-All An Star by Galileo) Fam. 22-a Stella 3x4 Allegretta or 1x2 3/4 relatives Tertullian/Galileo, 4x4 Raise a Native, dam 3x4 ND regards, Ticino |
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Thanks Ticino. I was hoping for the trifector but can't have everything.
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Hello,
the only Race Track In Bavaria stages the next 3 year old race. Bavarian Classic, 2000 meter, Group 3, Munich, 1.5.18: Emerald Master (Mastercraftsman-Emerald Art by Excellent Art) Fam. 22-d Black Ray 5x5 ND, 5x5 Mr. Prospector Guiri (Motivator-Guardia by Monsun) Fam. 22-d Black Ray 4x4 ND Holding Court (Pour Moi-Hold Off by Bering) Fam. 1-l Gas, Hurricane Run 4x5x5 ND Jimmu (Dalakhani-Jambalaya by Samum) Fam.2-f Feola no inbreeding, damsire 4x5 Birkhahn Refuseeveryoffer (FR)(Evasive-Rosie Thomas by Dylan Thomas) Fam. 1-e Ierne 4x5x5x5 ND, Sire 4x4 Secretariat, 4x4 ND Star Max (Maxios-Startissima by Green Tune) Fam. 5-h Vali 4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x5 Surumu, 4x5 ND Theo (Manduro-Tickle Me Pink by Groom Dancer) Fam. 2-s Ethel Gray no inbreeding Royal Youmzain (FR)(Youmzain-Spakha by Shamardal) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 3x3 Sadlers Wells, 4x4x5 ND, 4x5 Mill Reef, 5x5 Troy Valajani (Jukebox Jury-Ventiane by Königstiger) Fam. 11-f Kermesse 3x5 Sadlers Wells, dam 3x3 Shirley Heights/Gull Nook 3/4 relatives and/or 4x4 Mill Reef Salve Del Rio (Rio de la Plata-Salve Aurora by Kings Best) Fam. 28 Bunch Grass no inbreeding regards, Ticino |
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Hello,
it's me again. Unfortunately I made a mistake. Here is the correct ped of "Theo" 4x4x5 Nd, Sire 3x4 Dschingis Khan regards, Ticino
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Lots of blood there we don't have in Australia Ticino.
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Hello,
the "Bavarian Classic" was won by: 1)Royal Youmzain (FR)(Youmzain-Spakha by Shamardal) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 3x3 Sadlers Wells, 4x4x5 ND, 4x5 Mill Reef, 5x5 Troy 2)Jimmu (Dalakhani-Jambalaya by Samum) Fam.2-f Feola
no inbreeding, damsire 4x5 Birkhahn 3)Emerald Master (Mastercraftsman-Emerald Art by Excellent Art) Fam. 22-d Black Ray 5x5 ND, 5x5 Mr. Prospector regards, Ticino |
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16 c is here with the Zabeel family. 22d had a great stallion in Australia with Pipes of Peace. We have some 2f lines here but can't think of a great stallion from that family here at the moment. Elegant Fashion from the same branch as Deep Impact being the best here and she's a mare.
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Hello, the next "Classic Race" for the Derby preparation will be run. Here is the starterlist Mehl-Mülhens-Rennen (German 2000 Guineas), Group 2, 1600 Meter, Cologne, Monday 21.5.18 All for Arthur (IRE)(Tertullian-All An Star by Galileo) Fam. 22-a Stella 3x4 Allegretta or 1x2 3/4 relatives Tertullian/Galileo, 4x4 Raise a Native, dam 3x4 ND Ancient Spirit (Invincible Spirit-Assisi by Galileo) Fam. 2-n Alex 4x4 ND Fajjaj (IRE)(Dawn Approach-Pleasantry by Johannesburg) Fam. 19 Credenda no inbreeding, dam 4x4 Mr. Prospector Fighting Irish (IRE)(Camelot-Quixotic by Pivotal) Fam. 6-e Gondolette 3x4x5 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives, 4x4 Danehill (3x3 Natalma), Exit to Nowhere (Coup de Folie 3x3 Almahmoud, dam of Natalma) Julio (Exceed and Excel-Julissima by Beat Hollow) Fam. 21-a Lost Soul 4x4x4 ND, 5x5x5x5 Natalma, dam 3x5x5x5 ND, 4x5 Mill Reef Kronprinz (Lord of England-Kaiserwiese by Sholokhov) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwurde 4x5 Literat, dam 3x4 ND Ninario (Areion-Ninigretta by Dashing Blade) Fam. 5-h Dalmary 5x5 ND Weltstar (Soldier Hollow-Wellenspiel by Sternkönig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem
no inbreeding, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell FS, Granddam 3x3 Tamerlane Wild Max (Maxios-Wildfährte by Mark of Esteem) Fam. 5-h Waldrun 4x5 ND, 4x5 Surumu Zaman (GB)(Dutch Art-Wake Up Call by Noverre) Fam 7-a Mowerina 4x5x5 ND, 4x5 Blushing Groom, 5x5 Halo regards, Ticino |
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Hello, Here is the finisch of the "German 2000 Guineas": 1)Ancient Spirit (Invincible Spirit-Assisi by Galileo) Fam. 2-n Alex 4x4 ND 2)Fajjaj (IRE)(Dawn Approach-Pleasantry by Johannesburg) Fam. 19 Credenda no inbreeding, dam 4x4 Mr. Prospector 3)Fighting Irish (IRE)(Camelot-Quixotic by Pivotal) Fam. 6-e Gondolette 3x4x5 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives, 4x4 Danehill (3x3 Natalma), Exit to Nowhere (Coup de Folie 3x3 Almahmoud, dam of Natalma) regards, Ticino |
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Ancient Spirit has an interesting pedigree Ticino, for the most part a "Classic" case of speed over strength.
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Hello,
Second Chance remark about Ancient Spirits ped is correct, especially in the damline. An interesting Observation his Sire 'Invincible Spirit' was a sprinter, but as a rule his offspring covers distances up to 2000 meter. Btw, Ancient Spirit is pretty close related with Almandin, both horses tracing to "Amarette", Alamandin is a 3/4 relative of Amarette regards, Ticino
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Hello,
the next "Classic" this time for the "Young Ladies" will be run. Herre is the starterlist: German 1000 Guineas, 1600 meter, Group 2, Düsseldorf, Sunday 27.5.18 Angelita (Areion-Angel Dragon by Royal Dragon) Fam. 9-h Anatevka 5x5 ND, damsire Royal Dragon-Danehill 3x3 Natalma Suada (Maxios-Shiramiyna by Invincible Spirit) Fam. 3-o Black Cherry 4x5 ND, 3x5 Fairy King/Nureyev 3/4 relatives Queens Beauty (GB)(Lethal Force-Pretty Girl by Polish Precedent) Fam. 1-k Zabara, Frankel 3x5 Danzig, 5x5 Nearctic, dam 3x4 ND Binti Al Nar (Areion-Best Moving by Reset) Fam. 8-f Altissima 5x5 ND Cabarita (Areion-Caesarina by Hernando) Fam. 14-f Only One 3x4 Caerleon, 4x4x5 Nijinsky Auenperle (Areion-Aotearoa by Doyen) Fam. 2-n Alex 5x5 Nijinsky, 4x5 ND, Granddam 3x3 Surumu Go Rose (Soldier Hollow-Gondola by Lando) Fam. 1-i Glenayes, Phalaris 5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell FS, Damsire 3x3 Literat/Liberty FB/FS Indah (Dabirsim-Iota by Tiger Hill) Fam. 4-n Yonne, Ito, (Our Ivanhowe) 5x5 ND, Tiger Hill-Danehill 3x3 Natalma Malakeh (GB)(Harbour Watch-Marisa by Desert Sun) Fam. 14-c Pretty Polly 5x5x5 ND Nyaleti (IRE)(Arch-American Nova by Verglas) Fam. 13-b 4x5x5 ND, Verglas-Highest Honor 4x4x4x4x5x5 Nasrullah/Rivaz FB/FS + 3/4 relative Royal Charger and Fair Trial/Badruddin (6 gen.) Close relatives Love Connection (Amico Fritz-Lovana by Darshaan) Fam. 9-e Love In, Zariba 5x5 Never Bend regards, Ticino |
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Hello,
here comes the winner of the "German 1000 Guineas": 1) Nyaleti (IRE)(Arch-American Nova by Verglas) Fam. 13-b 4x5x5 ND, Verglas-Highest Honor 4x4x4x4x5x5 Nasrullah/Rivaz FB/FS + 3/4 relative Royal Charger and Fair Trial/Badruddin (6 gen.) Close relatives 2) Malakeh (GB)(Harbour Watch-Marisa by Desert Sun) Fam. 14-c Pretty Polly 5x5x5 ND 3) Go Rose (Soldier Hollow-Gondola by Lando) Fam. 1-i Glenayes, Phalaris 5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell FS, Damsire 3x3 Literat/Liberty FB/FS regards, Ticino |
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Hello, usorry, I Forget a Group race for 3 year olds! Here the "finish": Ittlinger Derby Trial, Group 3, 2000 meter, Baden-Baden, Sunday. 3.6.18: 1)Royal Youmzain (FR)(Youmzain-Spasha by Shamardal) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 3x3 Sadlers Wells, 4x4x5 ND, 4x5 Mill Reef, 5x5 Troy 2) Theo (Manduro-Tickle Me Pink by Groom Dancer) Fam. 2-s Ethel Gray 4x4x5 Nd, Sire 3x4 Dschingis Khan 3) Guiri (Motivator-Guardia by Monsun) Fam. 22-d Black Ray 4x4 ND regards, Ticino |
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