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linghi11
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Posted: 11 Nov 2023 at 11:17am |
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Based in Kembla now
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acacia alba
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Luke Griffiths , that got ? 3 years ? for ice use himself, and on his horses. Hmmmm. And yes. Lots of runners in Newie . I thought he had stables there ?
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animals before people.
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Furt
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His dad has been a journeyman stablehand in Sydney for over 25 years, working for trainers such as Bill Mitchell, Gai Waterhouse, Bart Cummings and Annabel Neesham. Was close mates with Luke Griffiths. |
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theshu25
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Obviously dose not like his chosen career much the way the idiot carries on. Maybe due for another break.
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linghi11
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Pretty sure he used to pre train for him. Has lots of runners in Newcastle still even though based in Kembla
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acacia alba
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Not 100% here but pretty sure he isnt anything to do with Darren Smith. Sounds like they could be blood brothers tho, doesnt it
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animals before people.
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djebel
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It was her only win but she won a few 100000 when transferred to Kris Lees.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Stainvita
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Ben seems to be a common name around stewards, they keep them busy.
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If your hands aren't shaking you haven't put enough on.
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Second Chance
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The horse's sole victory.
As the Beatles wrote and Ringo sang: "I get by with a little help from my friends". ps after it was released in the United States, Maryland Governor and future Vice President Spiro T Agnew lobbied to have the song banned because he believed it was about drug use.
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djebel
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He did not mind stepping them up in grade. This Melbourne sojourn seems to be some sort of working holiday. In Her Time went from her debut maiden win to the Tea Rose Stakes. El Dorado Dreaming - |
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reductio ad absurdum
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monty1
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Trainer Ben Smith outed for 4-1/2 yearsBy AAP Trainer Ben Smith has been outed for 4-1/2 years after being found guilty of cobalt and conduct charges. The Group One winning trainer was convicted of a raft of charges emanating from a raid on his Newcastle stable in September last year. The charges against him included race day treatments, elevated cobalt levels in two horses, giving false evidence and refusing to give evidence. Smith was disqualified for a total of seven years with Racing NSW stewards determining commonality between some of the charges and making the penalties concurrent, reducing his sentence to four years and six months. Smith's sentence begins on September 18, 2018, the day he was stood down and expires on March 18, 2023. In the autumn of 2018, Smith celebrated Group One wins by In Her Time and El Dorado Dreaming. |
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monty1
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NSW trainer Ben Smith disqualified for a period of four years and six months. Racing NSW Stewards on Tuesday gave consideration to penalty in respect to charges determined by Stewards on 10 May 2019 against trainer Mr Benjamin Smith. Mr Smith was assisted by solicitor Mr Paul O'Sullivan.
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djebel
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Has it been established who he is ? I only took notice of him yesterday because he had Jamie Spencer on a Mount earlier in the day.
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reductio ad absurdum
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monty1
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That's what happens when they let the likes of him back in the game!
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linghi11
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This fellow got a stewards mention every day of the Flemington carnival, has a runner on Saturday - will he get the quaddie?
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Shawy38
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Race 8 KENNEDY OAKS - GROUP 1 - 2500 metres: Vieste Underwent a veterinary examination upon arrival, having raced on Saturday 4 November 2023, and was found to be lame in the off foreleg. Late scratching at 3.04 pm on veterinary advice. A veterinary certificate will be required prior to racing again. Trainer Benjamin Smith pleaded guilty under the provisions of AR228(b) for improper conduct in relation to the language he directed at Stewards at the conclusion of the inquiry into the withdrawal of Vieste. Benjamin Smith was fined $1000. An inquiry into the conduct of Mr T. Lavalle, part‑owner of Vieste, was adjourned to a time and date to be fixed. |
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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing
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Carioca
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Thanks mate.
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linghi11
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Bicarb only Carioca, they tick the TCO2 box, they occasionally do a pre race urine if there have been recent anomalies with the horse or trainer. |
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Carioca
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29 pre-race blood samples taken at Caulfield sat. linghi11, bi-carb only? or do they go deeper ? |
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linghi11
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Prerace is usually a bicarb test only. Unless they’ve had some irregularities in recent swabs.
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Carioca
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Just out of curiosity, do you ever read the stewards report after a race meeting, pre- and post race testing from blood and urine, might answer your question a little fwiw. |
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TOLEDO
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Isn't the testing done on the winners plus some random others. No wonder most positives we see are from winners
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Carioca
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Spot on Sunline , of course it's a "touch", hard to convince the non-believers though, if it makes a noise like one , walks like one , then it IS one. |
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linghi11
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Went from being one of the most useless trainers in NSW striking at 4% to group winners and 25%
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Bonjour
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Touche!
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monty1
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Obviously Ben Smith cannot train so he had to use drugs to get results where Kris can train. |
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skippy123
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Assuming that what administered WAS actually cobalt - not all had retests proving vitamin b12 in their samples
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Gay3
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In Her Time & his other good mare went to Lees & have won since so what effect exactly did the cobalt have?
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Sunline
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I note the ones that tested positive for Cobalt won.
Remember when people on here wanted to insist the science was wrong, and it wasn't a performance enhancer. So we're left to believe the O'Briens and Kavanaghs didn't know what their vets were doing. I'd like to know why a vet is administering a performance enhancer without the trainer knowing? What's to gain from that?
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Sunline...simply supreme
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TJMitchell
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Benny boy is in trouble
Newcastle trainer Ben Smith will face 10 charges concerning the use and supply of prohibited substances from May 7. Last September, Racing NSW stewards suspended the trainer indefinitely after he provided false evidence at the initial inquiry into irregularities in two swab samples taken from two of his gallopers. The charges are as follows: Refusing to give evidence at both a Stewards investigation and a Stewards inquiry conducted at Newcastle racecourse on 11 September 2018, in that he refused to provide the name of the person who had supplied 8 products to him. Administering the prohibited substance cobalt to the racehorse Iron Duke prior to the gelding racing in Race 2 – Civil Sydney Maiden Plate conducted at Newcastle 25 August 2018 which resulted in cobalt being detected above the level of 100ug/l excepted in paragraph 11 of Division 3 of the Prohibited List B in a post-race urine sample taken from the gelding following winning Race 2 – Civil Sydney Maiden Plate conducted at Newcastle 25 August 2018. As the trainer of the racehorse Iron Duke brought Iron Duke to Newcastle racecourse on 25 August 2018 for the purpose of participating in Race 2 – Civil Sydney Maiden Plate on that day and the prohibited substance cobalt was detected above the level of 100ug/l excepted in paragraph 11 of Division 3 of the Prohibited List B in a post-race urine sample taken from the gelding following winning Race 2 – Civil Sydney Maiden Plate on that day. Administering the prohibited substance cobalt to the racehorse Elaborate prior to the gelding racing in Race 1 - Fresh-R Class 1 Handicap conducted at Wyong 26 August 2018 which resulted in cobalt being detected above the level of 100ug/l excepted in paragraph 11 of Division 3 of the Prohibited List B in a urine sample taken from the gelding following winning Race 1 – Fresh-R Class 1 Handicap conducted at Wyong 26 August 2018. As the trainer of the racehorse Elaborate brought Elaborate to Wyong racecourse on 26 August 2018 for the purpose of participating in Race 1 – Fresh-R Class 1 Handicap on that day and the prohibited substance cobalt was detected above the level of 100ug/l excepted in paragraph 11 of Division 3 of the Prohibited List B in a post-race urine sample taken from the gelding following winning Race 1 – Fresh-R Class 1 Handicap on that day. Causing medication namely, electrolyte paste to be administered on race day to the following horses Instructing persons to administer medication on race day, namely electrolyte paste to the following horses prior to such horses running in the following races. Did have 8 products in his possession on 11 September 2018 that had not been registered and/or labelled and/or prescribed and/or dispensed and/or obtained in accordance with the applicable Commonwealth and state legislation namely the Agricultural and Veterinary Chemicals Code Act 1994(Cth) (Agvet Code), Poisons and Therapeutic Goods Act 1966 (NSW) and the Poisons and Therapeutic Goods Regulation 2008 (NSW); Did, without taking veterinary advice and with the intention to assist horses with respiratory conditions, administer prior to 11 September 2018 to the racehorses Anecdote, Kristensen andMarksfield, a substance contained in a brown bottle located in his vehicle by Stewards on 11 September 2018, that was found to contain the carcinogenic substance formaldehyde, such substance capable of being detrimental to the welfare of the said horses. |
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