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spinner
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BET SLEASY just took the bet boost off my account. These guys send me text messages promoting the boost and if you use it they take it away. crazy. Oh well another one bites the dust.
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bigal
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thanks for highlighting that..... I did not know/realise that!!.
UMMMM. ISNT THIS A TIPPING AND WAGERING FORUM?? surely........ the forum members deserve to know that there is a great offer going with a "certain" bookmaker. what rule does mentioning the bookmakers name contravene anyway Gay? MAYBE not being affiliated with the site makes it a no no? (see I did not mention them again just in case) Allan
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Red Hare
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So, after a month, the wash up is that cowardly Crown alleges that, because their cookies have landed on multiple devices and IP addresses, I am part of some interplanetary syndicate that Ethan Hunt couldn't match.
Racing Victoria are 'satisfied' with whatever evidence they have seen, but are not willing to share. My position is that they are an online bookmaker, so the idea is that members will be able to log in to their secure account on the bookmaker's website whenever they please, on whatever device they want, provided there is an internet connection. Honestly can't be kissed going around in circles with this bulldust. My records show that i'm many thousands in the black. There are plenty of other alternatives. Reckon i'll open an account with Vicbet. As BigAl pointed out (before being censored ), they offer BOB every race, every day. I can definitely work that into my bookie mix. #freeBigAl
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Red Hare
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Restricted again. No bets placed, so Tuesday's excitement was presumably some sort of glitch.
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Red Hare
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Reference number assigned on the 13th, restrictions lifted on the 17th (or earlier... didn't check until today). The RacingNSW process is a more convoluted approach. Where RV was an online form with an image or document upload for ID verification, RacingNSW is a similar online form & document upload PLUS the requirement to print, sign, scan & send (snail mail or email). I didn't bother with QLD. The whole process is a truckload full of bulldust, considering the corporate WSPs are run by bots & algorithms. Fancy spending millions on bunkers for integrity, but not having any visibility over the 1s & 0s that are taking the bets. ** Haven't tried to place a bet yet. They might still play some games with the amount they let me on for....
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Imetrud
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Thant's true |
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Sneck
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Shrunk in the Wash
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As it’s anything corporate they have stuffed up a massive opportunity
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Red Hare
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Couple of useful (RV) links to help resolve a breach of MBLs. My CrownBet account is limited to 'MidiDiv' only, so I'm about to lodge a complaint. I'll report back on how smoothly the process goes.
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spinner
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Love it
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ExceedAndExcel
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First account has had promos removed. Always get a nice warm feeling inside when I get messages like this pop up: |
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bigal
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you mean you have been banned from the BOOSTS???? not banned by the Corps completely!!!. ALLAN
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spinner
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yea just banned over time one by one. Yes backing horses that are shortening around the $5 mark. No form study involved, its been fun and ive closed most of my accounts and will spend the $5000 on a holiday.
TAB was a little different i multiplied mainly favorites as the $5 shots were normally unders with the TAB by more than 10% so if the multiply was 1.05 you struggled to break even so i would just go the shorties that could be matched on BETFAIR and hope for a good boost to get the overs. Most of them must rely on the same system of barring anyone using the boost feature only to bet as i was hardly showing a profit with one corp turning over $12,000 in bets for a return of $12,700 over three months and bang they barred me. All in all for a punter that normally bets about $100 pw for fun ive turned a $5000 profit in 3 months. Good fun while it lasted but not without its flaws, you have to be quick as some blow out as quick as they shorten and suddenly your laying for a big loss or holding and hoping for a win.
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oneonesit
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If you abuse the promos - as E&E describes it - then you are on borrowed time receiving them. "Abuse" from their perspective would be someone who is a consistent winner (or even slight loser) who disciplines themselves to the promo offers. If you take the position that they are in the game to make a reasonable profit - the banning of these type of "opportunistic" customers is a good thing for customers that don't (the remaining majority I would have thought). I would be happy for all Corporate enticements to be banned. Let them survive on standard price, service & betting options.
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rusty nails
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He's got to be backing firmers.
Ladbrokes seem to be the most aggressive in tracking that than most. |
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ExceedAndExcel
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They don’t need to share information. He is backing things at a price higher than the Betfair lay price. Therefore his bets are profitable long term. Very easy for them to work that out and take action accordingly. |
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Second Chance
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Well on-course metro bookies have to.
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bigal
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Spinner is placing $200 bets on $5-00 pops SO they have to take the bets!!!
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Luva Punt
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So are you saying Spinner that all of the corporates know when you are placing your bets with another betting agency, and also when you place your LAY bet on Betfair ?? Are bookies allowed to freely share your current wagering information, or have you just lost all of these accounts over time because you have been winning ??
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bigal
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so because you cant get a boost anywhere you are giving it away?????? BIG al |
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spinner
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there all weak, just lost my TAB multiplier. Yes it because in boosting $200 win bets to $5.50 and laying at $5. Been going for a few months and $5000 in front but have now been barred by lads, hill, crown, tab, neds and sports. TAB was the toughest noty knowing the boost but if your quick you jag the odd good one. Fun whist it lasted.
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ExceedAndExcel
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They have a lot of easily exploitable promos. Run top 3 get a bonus bet, win get a bonus bet, back something in one race get a bonus bet for another race etc. Its just about every day. I’m sure they will put me out of business on one or all of the accounts I use soon enough though. |
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bigal
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and in a text to my son I said "will take most of my money out of there and start ABUSING THEIR OTHER PROMOS".
Like the gardens race 2 greyhounds....back a dog and if it loses get your money back!!! only for 20 bucks..but why not!!..... allan
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bigal
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FOR ME.... one boost where they would take a good bet on it.... THATS IT!!! Allan
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oneonesit
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Had a good look at that Neds mob & don't know how they survive. Their odds are middle of the road at best, their website is ordinary & they have a very narrow product range in Sports compared to the others (esp Sportsbet/Bet365). Now Al is saying they don't have much ticker either. What are others seeing that I am missing
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bigal
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how p!ss weak are these bookies getting!!!.
my son is a $10 punter and for the last few months he has been investing on ALL my bets. Good on you NEDS, he has been betting with you for about 2 months and only won "about $200" and they took the one boost off him completely!!. Mind you he did increase the bets to $12 from $10 about 3 weeks ago, so he has NEDS on their knees apparently!! BIG al
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WarriSymbol
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Define recreational gambler?
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bigal
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so MY account has just lost the price pump at William Hill, Mo lost her pump there about 6 weeks ago..... but the bold text in the reply is their get out clause!! Thank you for choosing to chat with us. An agent will be with you shortly. You are now chatting with Mark. Mark: Welcome to LiveHelp Support. How may I assist you? ALLAN : hi,i have not bet at all today and trying to place a bet on last race Wyong, but no price pump available on that race? Mark: Hello there, Allan. I can definitely look into that for you. ALLAN : thanks Mark: Just one moment while I double check on this. Mark: Thank you for patiently waiting. ALLAN : that is ok Mark: Having checked, unfortunately, your account is no longer eligible for our Price Pump feature. ALLAN : really, i used it on Saturday, when did this happen? Mark: I can see here that your account was reviewed and in line with our betting guidelines, the price pump feature is no longer eligible to your account. Mark: The decision was made after the last use of your Price Pump. Mark: Please do note that the changes made is in line with the specific terms, Price Pump is intended for recreational gamblers only. William Hill reserves the right to suspend, amend, restrict or cease to offer Price Pump at any time, on any market or to any Client, without providing a reason or advance notification. William Hill is not liable for any losses which may arise in connection with Price Pump not being available to a Client. ALLAN : so a lousy $225 on a $4-40 winner makes me a NON recreational punter i guess, yes i know its a decision made by the "bosses" Mark: I do understand where you're coming from with this and unfortunately, the changes will stand. Mark: What I can do on your behalf is to pass on your feedback about this, Allan. As I do understand how you feel about this. ALLAN : we would both be wasting our time on that, but thanks for offer. ALLAN : maybe that $225 was the straw that broke the camels back? too many winners on price pumped horses? Mark: I'm afraid we do not have the information on the review. However, we can confirm that the account has been reviewed and that the changes has been made upon the management's discresion. ALLAN : thanks for that anyway Mark. goodbye. |
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Sneck
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The T&C's are on their side but perhaps action could be taken against them in terms of false advertising.
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