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scamanda
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Not any, just those that fit the agenda. And if you want compassion for that violent Sudanese criminal you also fit the bill. I'd prefer to have compassion for the ones that can be isolated from him. Maybe a life surfing on the Byron coast with the dole raised to the same level as the retired pensioners will prevent these poor people from committing more crime. And it's in a Green area. Easy fix.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Passing Through
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According to a community leader yesterday, these kids are mostly first generation Australian citizens and he said they would benefit from a week in Sth Sudan to give them some perspective
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ThreeBears
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I'm currently on holiday in Daylesford. No crime here. No Sudanese, Kiwis and few kids full stop. Lovely place I can thoroughly recommend. Everyone seems to have a job too.
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max manewer
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Ineffective policing of laws, creates a wide variety of social ills. But the laws have to be fair, a dole payment of $250 a week is below basic sustenance levels.
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scamanda
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No, just give them more money.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Whale
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Is a nice spot but too many same sex couples for many on this forum, they may catch something |
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ThreeBears
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LOL Whale. That's true. The hard core lesbians may frighten the crap out of some.
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max manewer
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Absolutely give them more, if they satisfy eligibility requirements. If they then go out an commit crime, hit them like a ton of bricks, they won't have "economic circumstance" as an excuse. |
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Passing Through
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No mention of the non Sudanese criminals that mostly organise these people because they are minors?
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max manewer
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If that is a known fact, why hasn't the plod caught up to them ? |
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maccamax
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Yes , more money Scamanda , solves everything.
Fixes the Rates, Electricity, water < sewerage etc increases . Cures Global warming in Oz , The Deep Freeze in the USA. Buys grog for Alexander Downer , Pays fines for Turnbull ( not wearing a water seat belt ) > all about money. But how do these people get past the medical to gain entry. They say he had Mental Illness prior to migration. Then again Psychiatrists are crazy too .. I forgot. Charging peoples brain with electricity and filling kids up with central nervous system stimulants, like RITALIN = they must be mad. |
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Passing Through
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What they really need maxie is wealthy Chinese donors like the Liberal Party has
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scamanda
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Or they can do what some of us had to do when we needed work. It's a relatively new concept. It's called......GET A JOB. Any that re-offend are sent to a prison where they work for nothing other than their keep.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Whale
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Then again Psychiatrists are crazy too .. I forgot. Charging peoples brain with electricity and filling kids up with central nervous system stimulants, like RITALIN = they must be mad.[/QUOTE] Get the nurses to treat mentally ill patients then and the psychiatrists to clean up the s h t |
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maccamax
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I thought Dastyari was a Labor man .. Shows how little I know. |
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Passing Through
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You are probably right. What use practical would they have for a brown paper bag full of Rolexes?
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scamanda
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Stop deflecting PT.
How many jobs do you have up at your local coffee shop? |
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Passing Through
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Not many, but they could do with some trades training if only those programs still existed
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max manewer
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If young people out in the community are obliged either to be learning or earning, I fail to see why those in jails are not. languishing in a jail learning nothing except more bad habits, the system is a failure. Asked whether young people who are jailed, come out rehabilitated, a prison head honcho gave a concise reply. " No".
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scamanda
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Plenty of training available, as jackaroos on sheep and cattle stations across the country. They'd get paid, get free meals and accommodation, and the skills to be progress into other careers in agriculture/horticulture.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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oneonesit
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oneonesit
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& get over it please Scamanda. You do realise its our fault don't you ?
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maccamax
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Good point oneone , a bit generous , 50 years would be nearer the mark.
You will never make sheep to be safe, when penned with foxes & wild dogs . No need to elaborate other than to reiterate that first generations are exposed to being reared to a different cultures views. |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Do They? Can you point me in the direction that told you that non Sudanese criminals that mostly organise these people because they are minors? |
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scamanda
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Ah yes, because we did pluck them from their preferred environment and force them to live in a country that is entirely alien to them. Well no. We have the capacity to employ all of the offending criminals who are released because of their horrendous past. And if they don't want one of those jobs a prison farm would be the next step. A working sheep and cattle station where they work under armed guard and detained under lock and key over night and let out for work each day. Not to mention a few days walk from the nearest town or neighbor. No need to tempt an escape. Or electronic anklets. There are plenty of stations for sale around the country. It might even end up making a profit. And it would employ skilled employees to train them, as well as employ the guards, and cooks etc. |
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Carioca
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Top post Scamanda, covered the lot, nip it in the bud before it's too late.
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maccamax
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Get the nurses to treat mentally ill patients then and the psychiatrists to clean up the s h t [/QUOTE] YOU CAN"T HELP YOURSELF, DESPITE GAY3 WARNINGS> |
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Whale
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PT your stat's are disingenuous as you know it is not mere numbers Sudanese crime rate is 6 times the average by % population
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Passing Through
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I never said they weren't, just posting the raw numbers to look at the extent of the problem I believe in all crime, Sudanese represent 1.5%, yet are .5% of the population, but they are only police estimates because the Vic govt doesn't classify crime into ethnic groups for official stats, I have read. In some crimes they represent up to 6% according to police estimates. |
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max manewer
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Statistics can be twisted to make a point, but the optics are pretty bad with these people.
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