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What else would you expect from them Confused LOL
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Kennett is certainly no leftie


Jeff Kennett criticises Peter Dutton for 'cheap political shot' on Victorian street crime

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Published: January 19 2018 - 12:13PM

Former Victorian premier Jeff Kennett has taken a swipe at Peter Dutton for his interventions in the state's street gang debate, accusing the federal Home Affairs Minister of dividing communities with a "cheap political shot".

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jeff-kennett-criticises-peter-dutton-for-cheap-political-shot-on-victorian-street-crime-20180119-h0ku58.html

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i'm sure the minig exploration companies and big miners in africa will really appreciate labors support.

and what will the greens think?

is this labors support for chinas silk road? protect their comrades interests in these developing countries.



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Tthe crime is either there or it isn't .

That makes a fool of Kennett.
One problem is the argument that all people from the Sudan are not Bad.
All Germans & Japanese weren't bad either in 1939,    But they all got Bombed.
Unfortunately the same should apply with our Society being restructured by migration at the rate of 350% since WW2.
If the likes of Muslim Countries etc.,    Who fail to integrate and ignore their adopted Culture =    OUT       = Stop more from those areas coming in and treat firmly or deport offenders within.
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Well Kennetts just as bad then. Isn't it amazing how pollies always say the crime rate is falling. Really - should be getting to near perfect by now if that's really the case. Every day we have people getting shot / bashed on public streets. Media have almost become blasé about it. Wasn't that way when I was a kid - if someone got shot anywhere it would be headlines for weeks. Why - because it rarely happened. Thanks multicultural society. As Macca always says - we reap what we sow !
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I think Kennett is just telling the Canberra dog-whistlers to leave Victorian politics alone, as is Marles
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you only think pt? be more positive.

i THINK marles has just opened it RIGHT up. what is he hiding?

secret agendas?
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If I say China, am I getting warm Isaac?
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is labor smarting that the wonderful china ally, dastyari has had to quit?LOL
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pt im trying some of your tentative, maybe language, which is quite successful on the potus thread....

have you read the g soros piece from the davos shindig? all what ifs and maybes.

no wonder the world is forever stirred.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I think Kennett is just telling the Canberra dog-whistlers to leave Victorian politics alone, as is Marles


    That's not how it works ..      If the out of control of Victoria aren't reigned in ,   where does it end .

   Precious Pauline said last night .. "we don't want you in our Country "   How true .
Dutton is all for deporting offenders .      Great stuff

     It appears our Judiciary is against deportation.
              FIGURES>   From Criminals,is where they make their money.
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In the absence of hard fact, maybe language is prudent, I would have thought
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I think Kennett is just telling the Canberra dog-whistlers to leave Victorian politics alone, as is Marles


    That's not how it works ..      If the out of control of Victoria aren't reigned in ,   where does it end .

   Precious Pauline said last night .. "we don't want you in our Country "   How true .
Dutton is all for deporting offenders .      Great stuff

     It appears our Judiciary is against deportation.
              FIGURES>   From Criminals,is where they make their money.

Why does Kennett want gang violence in Melbourne? Confused
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From Murdoch's Herald-Sun making a liar of Dutton with stats


This isn’t to say that there isn’t a South Sudanese youth crime problem in Victoria. There clearly is. But from the way politicians from north of the Murray are talking, you’d swear this was the most lawless state in the nation. According to Dutton: “This is a problem years in the making and it’s not a problem in New South Wales, or Queensland, or Perth, it’s a problem in Victoria.”

But is that true? How does the youth crime rate in Victoria compare with the rest of the country? Are all those tough magistrates and judges in Queensland making the residents of those states safer than we are here? Err, no. Not if you believe the ABS.

According to the cardigans at the Bureau, in 2016 — the last year we have data for — the NSW rate of offending for “acts intended to cause injury” was 403.4 per 100,000 of population. The rate in Victoria 308.3.

Were things better in Duttons’s home state of Queensland? Alas, no, sadly. They’re at 330.8 per 100k.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/james-campbell/james-campbell-to-peter-dutton-no-minister-youre-wrong/news-story/9e1342664e427f56cf815da1fb5fff79

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I think Kennett is just telling the Canberra dog-whistlers to leave Victorian politics alone, as is Marles


    That's not how it works ..      If the out of control of Victoria aren't reigned in ,   where does it end .

   Precious Pauline said last night .. "we don't want you in our Country "   How true .
Dutton is all for deporting offenders .      Great stuff

     It appears our Judiciary is against deportation.
              FIGURES>   From Criminals,is where they make their money.


Why does Kennett want gang violence in Melbourne? Confused


Probably misquoted.
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Just a coincidence there is a Victorian state election this year and the Liberal leader has mafia connections gnawing at his polling? 
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Let's all move to the ACT, I'm sure Dizzy would make us feel most welcome LOL
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Crime figures in Victoria have been fudged for years. Those stats aren't worth the toilet paper they should be printed on.
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Let's all move to the ACT, I'm sure Dizzy would make us feel most welcome LOL



Good idea.  Might be a tad cooler there too.
Mind you, no Sudanese problems here because we dont have any  .   And looking at what,s going on in Vic, we dont want any. 
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Let's all move to the ACT, I'm sure Dizzy would make us feel most welcome LOL



Good idea.  Might be a tad cooler there too.
Mind you, no Sudanese problems here because we dont have any  .   And looking at what,s going on in Vic, we dont want any. 


You know we have them at Jesso and Mayfield, apart from one or two I have had no problem.

I love some of the culture they have bought, things like carrying their shopping on their heads, mind you it has been a while since i saw that.

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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Let's all move to the ACT, I'm sure Dizzy would make us feel most welcome LOL


Dizzy doesn't deserve us ...     As near to perfect as has been made ,
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Let's all move to the ACT, I'm sure Dizzy would make us feel most welcome LOL



Good idea.  Might be a tad cooler there too.
Mind you, no Sudanese problems here because we dont have any  .   And looking at what,s going on in Vic, we dont want any. 


You know we have them at Jesso and Mayfield, apart from one or two I have had no problem.

I love some of the culture they have bought, things like carrying their shopping on their heads, mind you it has been a while since i saw that.



You keep them there , Djebel.   If its working well, why ruin a good thing ?Thumbs Up
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LOL. It's all about priorities AA LOL
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Too right 3Bs .  And she had hers right .
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Australia takes Sudanese as part of a "deal".

Australian Military are in Sudan for Oil.
Part of this deal, is that we take Sudanese.
The Australian Government even has on their webpage that Sudan is "potential oil".

This explains why Canberra is so quiet on this issue.

Why not take Ethiopians? Chad? Rwanda?

Nup, influx of Sudanese.
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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Australia takes Sudanese as part of a "deal".

Australian Military are in Sudan for Oil.
Part of this deal, is that we take Sudanese.
The Australian Government even has on their webpage that Sudan is "potential oil".

This explains why Canberra is so quiet on this issue.

Why not take Ethiopians? Chad? Rwanda?

Nup, influx of Sudanese.
Now you know why.
That does sound a touch cynical Redemption. Which does make it more likely to be near the mark !
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Why take any of them ??Cry  Save the country a lot of problems and expense.
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Country is going down the tubes, definitely not the country I grew up in

Every city is turning in to giant ghettos

Government is to blame
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how long before these alleged exclusive inner city apartments that are now prolific in the cities are turned into social housing, bought up by the governments, and the current dwellers move to the country for quieter, safer living? 

after all, when they retire, on their fabulous super payouts, especially if you are a government worker, who would want to stay in the city?!

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