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I don't get the exchange going on in this thread. Did PT pretend somewhere along the way that he's ok with China taking over Oz? Wouldn't surprise me, but all I've read from him seems to say that he hates the idea of it. (The racist bustard.)
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This is Isaac's little game. He says I said or implied something to get me to bite.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

This is Isaac's little game. He says I said or implied something to get me to bite.

Geez it's been going on a while hasn't it? Maybe time to bite and be honest?
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He should, but if I dont bite back he wouldn't get anyone posting in here.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

He should, but if I dont bite back he wouldn't get anyone posting in here.

That doesn't make sense. I'm sure that people who would like to discuss the china situation could do without your silly ego games that clog up the topic.
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Mine? I have engaged with Isaac throughout this thread, but if it isn't about China bashing it is ignored.
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Isaac is entitled to his (or should one say the Spectator's) opinion.  And he may have reason to be Sinophobic.

However tell that to his Conservative mates in his home state of West Australia who are iron-fisted in their support for the Peoples Republic of China. Wink


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Lol true
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Isaac is entitled to his (or should one say the Spectator's) opinion.  And he may have reason to be Sinophobic.

However tell that to his Conservative mates in his home state of West Australia who are iron-fisted in their support for the Peoples Republic of China. Wink



Asked the spectator their opinion of your horse; was the same as mine....

is labor in power in WA now. They cant get enough of china; all the way with china is their motto!

with a readership of 74000 this thread is quite informativeLOL.

i had already commented that considering is almost a conversation between pt and me it is highly regarded....
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oh and pt admits to china becoming our master.

china bashing? just a matter of balancing out the threads, for instance, with the potus one.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

oh and pt admits to china becoming our master.

china bashing? just a matter of balancing out the threads, for instance, with the potus one.

So you are saying you are not interested in discussion, just squaring up for all the mean anti Trump posts?

Is that normal?
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I think the Betoota Advocate's provocative article about Chinese buying up all of our baby formula brought him around stayer.Try to be empathetic though, it's a difficult conflicted life when you've been brain washed by the Regressive Left you know! 

Love Gays and Islam?

Hate Coal in the inner city, Love it in the mining towns?

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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I don't get the exchange going on in this thread. Did PT pretend somewhere along the way that he's ok with China taking over Oz? Wouldn't surprise me, but all I've read from him seems to say that he hates the idea of it. (The racist bustard.)

I think the Betoota Advocate's provocative article about Chinese buying up all of our baby formula brought him around stayer.Try to be empathetic though, it's a difficult conflicted life when you've been brain washed by the Regressive Left you know! Ouch

Love Gays, and Islam?

Hate Coal in the inner city, Love it in the mining towns?

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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Finally some fair and  balanced discussion of the topic. 
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pt ive asked a number of times why does china see a need to become the top dog, and you wont "engage" in that discussion.

i suppose you dont know, even after all the reading you do of chinese sites.

can you speak chinese also?
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PT, not like you to miss the Ermm and Wacko icons. 

Or maybe the implicit irony more than enough.  Tongue
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Just wait till they start buying up our Viagra! Cry

... I wouldn't want to invoke the wrath of maccamax for all the tea in Ceylon!Stern Smile
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

pt ive asked a number of times why does china see a need to become the top dog, and you wont "engage" in that discussion.

i suppose you dont know, even after all the reading you do of chinese sites.

can you speak chinese also?

Isn't the answer simple? Does PT never answer it? If he doesn't, I can't blame you for badgering him. A straight answer, and agreememnt by all (?) that obviously China wants to expand its power, might lead to some discussion about it.
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Isaac, the answer to that question is the question I asked you last night that you dismissed with a throw away comment You repeated it today and I repeated that it is a demographics issue for them. Judge argued the obvious self interest argument, but you aren't interested in anything that doesn't fit your evil Chinese conquering and cruelly dominating the planet narrative.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I don't get the exchange going on in this thread. Did PT pretend somewhere along the way that he's ok with China taking over Oz? Wouldn't surprise me, but all I've read from him seems to say that he hates the idea of it. (The racist bustard.)


<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">I think the Betoota Advocate's provocative article about Chinese buying up all of our baby formula brought him around stayer.Try to be empathetic though, it's a difficult conflicted life when you've been brain washed by the Regressive Left you know! Ouch</span><div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">
<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Love Gays, and Islam?<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">
<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Hate Coal in the inner city, Love it in the mining towns?<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">
<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Wacko

Ah I think (?) I get it. PT loves $?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Isaac, the answer to that question is the question I asked you last night that you dismissed with a throw away comment You repeated it today and I repeated that it is a demographics issue for them. Judge argued the obvious self interest argument, but you aren't interested in anything that doesn't fit your evil Chinese conquering and cruelly dominating the planet narrative.

What's your narrative, in 25 words or less please?
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

pt ive asked a number of times why does china see a need to become the top dog, and you wont "engage" in that discussion.

i suppose you dont know, even after all the reading you do of chinese sites.

can you speak chinese also?

Isn't the answer simple? Does PT never answer it? If he doesn't, I can't blame you for badgering him. A straight answer, and agreememnt by all (?) that obviously China wants to expand its power, might lead to some discussion about it.

Who said this?

Has it occurred to anyone that trump, kim, putin, xi and kimmy might all be focusing on what they see as best for their own respective nations? 

Why doesn't the same apply in this case?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

pt ive asked a number of times why does china see a need to become the top dog, and you wont "engage" in that discussion.

i suppose you dont know, even after all the reading you do of chinese sites.

can you speak chinese also?

Isn't the answer simple? Does PT never answer it? If he doesn't, I can't blame you for badgering him. A straight answer, and agreememnt by all (?) that obviously China wants to expand its power, might lead to some discussion about it.


Who said this?

<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Has it occurred to anyone that trump, kim, putin, xi and kimmy might all be focusing on what they see as best for their own respective nations? </span>
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<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Why doesn't the same apply in this case?</span>

IT DOES!
I still don't get it. What's your POV??
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Because pt is less than informative re china have to get my info from somewhere, usually headlines on Australian news sites. make for fascinating reading.

Sixty Minutes had a little piece as well but pt dismissed it after 3 minutes.


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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Isaac, the answer to that question is the question I asked you last night that you dismissed with a throw away comment You repeated it today and I repeated that it is a demographics issue for them. Judge argued the obvious self interest argument, but you aren't interested in anything that doesn't fit your evil Chinese conquering and cruelly dominating the planet narrative.

What's your narrative, in 25 words or less please?

China has an aged population problem, due in large part to their one child policy. There are several ways of dealing with it. Here we let a lot of skilled immigrants take up the slack to maintain our level of economic growth, although it is slipping.

 Africa has a similar population to China and is expected to double by 2050 with a very large percentage of their countries populations under 30. China are taking advantage of African countries desire to grow their economies and are using the continent as a means of investment in cheap labour so they dont have to grow their own population quickly to 2 billion to catch up. Africa is close to a huge market in Europe so it makes sense for them to do what they are doing.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Because pt is less than informative re china have to get my info from somewhere, usually headlines on Australian news sites. make for fascinating reading.

Sixty Minutes had a little piece as well but pt dismissed it after 3 minutes.



So did I, because I live next to Box Hill. Duh.
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No-one, I repeat no-one, with any claim to intelligence has made a point of watching 60 Minutes for at least two decades. 

And that goes for informed people of any political bent, be it right, left or centre.
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Who is going to be the dominant world economy in 2050 or 2100?

China, India, USA, Europe?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Isaac, the answer to that question is the question I asked you last night that you dismissed with a throw away comment You repeated it today and I repeated that it is a demographics issue for them. Judge argued the obvious self interest argument, but you aren't interested in anything that doesn't fit your evil Chinese conquering and cruelly dominating the planet narrative.

What's your narrative, in 25 words or less please?


China has an aged population problem, due in large part to their one child policy. There are several ways of dealing with it. Here we let a lot of skilled immigrants take up the slack to maintain our level of economic growth, although it is slipping.

 Africa has a similar population to China and is expected to double by 2050 with a very large percentage of their countries populations under 30. China are taking advantage of African countries desire to grow their economies and are using the continent as a means of investment in cheap labour so they dont have to grow their own population quickly to 2 billion to catch up. Africa is close to a huge market in Europe so it makes sense for them to do what they are doing.

And?
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china doesnt use the local labor pt. they bring their own.
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