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Carioca
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So Lloyd stayed up until the wee hours to listen to his horse win, ....oh please no more.
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cotto1
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Hi guys:
With all the new crop of horses in the mix for the m cup this year.i am not sure if he is running in it this year or not but jv is drifting bigger and bigger betting wise in the futures markets interesting. |
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cotto1
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Hi guys:
On jv and rekindling.do you reckon it is a bluff about them not being in this years cup.and that at least 1 of them.will be in it?. |
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Jamal
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2015: Max Dynamite ran 2nd in the Listed Northumberland Plate and then went on to run 2nd in the Melbourne Cup. |
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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TIGER
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Max Dynamite the WA horse, and the listed Northumberland Plate at Ascot |
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djebel
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Apparently two Japanese slow coaches have been confirmed for the Cups carnival.
More later......
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Mug-Punter
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Chestnut Coat and Sole Impact I believe.... could be wrong though |
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The Mugg
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djebel
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Chestnut Coat would be a nice addition but is not fast enough really.
Sole Impact should be no more than a travelling companion.
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Mug-Punter
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Correct I am! Both have Japanese riders already confirmed. An Apprentice on SI in CC!!! |
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The Mugg
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Prince of Penzance
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The apprentice is already in Aus. Currently with Ryan Balfour in Adelaide, rides okay. |
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djebel
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Will Victorian Stewards allow him to ride on Metropolitan tracks ?
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Mug-Punter
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Surely not??? |
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The Mugg
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Lord Hybrow
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Djebel, What weight do you think this pair of Japanese horses would be assigned for the Cups? Just glancing at their form, I can’t see how Sole Impact would get sufficient weight to even get a run. |
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djebel
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I would say he should get about 49.5 on form, So whatever the minimum is for a 6 year old is ? |
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djebel
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Albert Amazing Red Best Solution Chestnut Coat Dal Harraild Dylan Mouth Euchen Glen Hamada Hawkbill Idaho Joshua Reynolds Latrobe Magic Circle Marmelo Max Dynamite Nakeeta Northwest Frontier Order Of St George Orderofthegarter Red Verdon Sole Impact Stradivarius ( Unlikely ) Thomas Hobson Tiberian Torcedor Wall Of Fire Wicklow Brave Withhold |
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djebel
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Albert Amazing Red Best Solution Chelkar Chestnut Coat Dal Harraild Dylan Mouth Euchen Glen Hamada Hawkbill Idaho Joshua Reynolds Latrobe Magic Circle Marmelo Max Dynamite Nakeeta Northwest Frontier Order Of St George Orderofthegarter Red Verdon Sole Impact Stradivarius ( Unlikely ) Thomas Hobson Tiberian Torcedor Wall Of Fire Wicklow Brave Withhold |
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djebel
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England trainers eyeing spring spoilsGrace Ramage@gramage_ 2:53pm Off the back of the three-day July Festival which took place over the weekend at Newmarket, some of the biggest UK-based stables have outlined their plans for the Melbourne Spring Carnival. Appleby was the most successful British trainer of the 2017 Spring Racing Carnival, having won for Godolphin the Bendigo and Cranbourne Cups, as well as finishing third in the Cox Plate with Folkswood. It's no surprise he is eager to get back down to Australia with yet another strong and competitive team of top-level horses. The five-year-old son of Exceed And Excel then went on to finish fifth in the Emirates Stakes, and is likely to target similar races this year. Since then the colt has had one further start when he was backed-up eight days later to run in the G1 Irish Derby over 2400m at the Curragh, where he finished midfield. The colt has notched five wins from nine starts and will be targeting to Caulfield Cup. The July Festival at Newmarket over the weekend was a prime example of the fine form Appleby is enjoying, with the trainer winning six of the 21 races, and one of those winners is now Melbourne-bound. Appleby is also eyeing our feature sprint races and is aiming to send down elite sprinter The six-year-old son of Iffraaj is already an esteemed traveller, having won the G1 Al Quoz Sprint on World Cup Night at Meydan back in March, beating Australian horses Illustrious Lad, Faatinah and Music Magnate by at least four lengths. Jungle Cat has not raced since and will aiming up at the Darley Classic on the final day of the Melbourne Cup Carnival. Bin Suroor has been a competitor at our Spring Carnival for many years now, with his best results being All The Good's victory in the 2008 Caulfield Cup and Beautiful Romance's triumph in the 2016 Zipping Classic. This year the Godolphin trainer has accepted the MVRC's invitation for Last preparation Benbatl campaigned in Dubai, winning three of four races which culminated in a victory in the G1 Dubai Turf (1800m). We recently saw Benbatl race below par when first-up and favourite for the G1 Queen Anne Stakes (1600m). The son of Dubawi tired late in the race, which was won by long-shot Accidental Agent. Bin Suroor has suggested Benbatl will head in the direction of the G1 Bayerisches Zuchtrennen at Munich in late July before he presses on to The Valley. Bin Suroor is also set to travel a July Festival winner in Best Solution won the G2 Princess of Wales's Stakes (2400m) last Thursday at Newmarket when first-up, with the race holding a Caulfield Cup ballot exemption for winners. In the past Big Orange and Fiorente have won this race to springboard into the Melbourne Carnival and Best Solution will look to do the same. This son of Kodiac also performed admirably at Meydan in the G1 Sheema Classic (2400m) back in May and will run in the Caulfield Cup before hoping to progress onto the Melbourne Cup. Morrison will be a familiar face when he returns to Melbourne in the coming months with talented stayer Last spring this son of Duke Of Marmalade landed in Melbourne with great expectations and did not disappoint when he ran an eye-catching sixth in the Caulfield Cup. However, Marmelo then went on to underperform in the Melbourne Cup when finishing midfield despite starting equal favourite. Morrison is keen for another attempt at our most famous race and admits he has learned a lot from last year's experience. This time around Marmelo will only contest the Melbourne Cup, in a bid to keep him fresh and firing for his target race. Just last Saturday Marmelo won the Prix Maurice De Nieuil (2800m) at Longchamp in Paris and proved to connections and the public he's on song for Melbourne and will again prove a serious contender. He is currently on the third line of betting for the Melbourne Cup at $26. Charlton returns to Melbourne this year and he's already set tongues wagging. His stayer Withhold is a five-year-old gelding by Champs Elysees with a big future according to connections, his biggest victory recorded a fortnight ago at Newcastle in the form of a dominant performance when he won the Northumberland Plate Handicap (3300m). Withhold had not raced for more than 250 days before this recent victory and Charlton explained the lack of racing over the past year is all part of his Melbourne Cup plan, a bid to keep Withhold's rating down to avoid copping a hefty weight in the Melbourne Cup. As it stands, Withhold has been handicapped to carry 52.5kg in this year's edition, which would put him right on the cusp of gaining a start in the 24-horse field. Another win before the Melbourne Cup would boost his weight and guarantee a place in our richest race but Charlton is eager to sit and wait it out, with no lead-up runs planned. One new face during the spring will be that of up-and-coming Newmarket horseman Fellowes, who is ecstatic to have a Melbourne Cup prospect in his stable. On that occasion, however, Prince Of Arran carried just over 2kg more than Withhold and as it stands both horses will be on equal weights in the Melbourne Cup. That weight turnaround on the current Cup favourite has Fellowes and his team extremely excited for the trip to Melbourne and he has declared his intention to have a lead-up run in either the Caulfield Cup or the Herbert Power. The Williams stable is shooting for spring riches with The six-year-old son of Makfi boasts an impressive record of eight wins from 20 starts and most recently romped in by six lengths in the G3 Henry II Stakes over 3200m at Sandown on May 24, which undoubtedly stamped him a major Melbourne Cup prospect. Williams has only had Magic Circle for two starts but his owner, Marwan Koukash, knows a thing or two about getting horses to Melbourne for the spring. Koukash was also the owner of two-time Cup performer Mount Athos, who most memorably finished a brave third behind Fiorente in the 2013 edition. Koukash is hoping it will be a case of third time lucky when Magic Circle makes his way to Melbourne in the coming months, and it's unlikely he'll have a lead-up run into the two-mile feature. Dunlop needs no briefing pack when it comes to Melbourne Spring Carnival campaigns. Not only has the legendary trainer travelled to Australia on many occasions, he's contested the Melbourne Cup an unprecedented five times with the much loved Red Cadeaux, and came heartbreakingly close to being first past the post on three of those occasions. His famous red and light blue silks will be back on show this spring when Raced by the same owner, Rob Arculli, Red Verdon has been allocated a weight of 54kg, which will guarantee him a start in the Melbourne Cup this year. The five-year-old entire by Lemon Drop Kid has finished second in his past three starts. Most recently he contested the G2 Hardwicke Stakes at Royal Ascot (2400m) where he was runner-up to the exciting Crystal Ocean when a 33/1 chance. The race prior to that Red Verdon was gapped by fellow Cup horse Magic Circle at Sandown in the G3 Henry II Stakes (3200m). It certainly would be a fairytale story if Red Verdon was to go well this spring. |
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Mug-Punter
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Is this a list of potential internationals??? |
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The Mugg
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djebel
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Yes.
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Mug-Punter
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A few names in that list I haven’t looked into. Cheers!!
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djebel
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Euchen Glen will likely be ruled out, Unfortunately was injured whilst winning on the weekend.
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djebel
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We can add Prince Of Arran and Count Octave. |
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Lord Hybrow
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I thought Wall of Fire stayed here in Australia after last years Melb Cup, pending a decision on a local trainer?
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Prince of Penzance
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Not sure. I think he went home |
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VOYAGER
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Hamada looks like the typical Appleby improver.
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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speedingaway
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Any locals running this year?
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djebel
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He is still listed as with Hugo Palmer. |
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Slammington
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Surely Order of St George is no hope of coming out?
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Hoffy95
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Shawy38
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Tab are taking bets on RETIRED horses again
Abbey Marie and Poppiholla both available to back despite being officially retired. Probably more, just had a quick glance. |
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